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DATE | 2014-12-01 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Dng] fraud warning
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Dec 1 13:26:54 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id 7265F16123B; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 5C02916123A; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C175D161241; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 13:24:29 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from tupac2.dyne.org (tupac2.dyne.org [178.62.188.7]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08ED161168 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tupac2.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A9018789D; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:08:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: dng-at-lists.dyne.org Delivered-To: dng-at-lists.dyne.org Received: from springfield.roa.cc (springfield.roa.cc [188.226.191.63]) by tupac2.dyne.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63805182E44 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 17:08:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mrbrklyn.com (unknown [96.57.23.82]) by springfield.roa.cc (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A544145C for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 18:08:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E989516116D; Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:08:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 12:08:33 -0500 From: Ruben Safir To: dng-at-lists.dyne.org Message-ID: <20141201170833.GA7331-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on tupac2 Cc: Rick Moen Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Dng] fraud warning X-BeenThere: dng-at-lists.dyne.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: "The first mailinglist after debianfork.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
After a little research, it apears that if a fork needs to take place, you need to establish indpendent infrastructure immediately. This dyne website and these sysadmin and annonymous and untrackable, and unaccountable...
This project, if it is to be serious, needs to be constructed in a business like fashion. There is a collection taking place in the name of a systemd-less debian fork under dyne.org. UNACCEPTABLE.
Everything needs to STOP until project leaders with real names are appointed and made accountable, and a new website and infrastructure is developed.
Kumbayah and all that not withstanding, this is serious business, and shouldn't be run by crackmonkeys hiding their identities.
Ruben Safir
-- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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