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From: Ruben Safir
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [mfidelman-at-meetinghouse.net: Re: [Dng] fraud warning]
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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 13:24:06 -0500
From: Miles Fidelman
Subject: Re: [Dng] fraud warning
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Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 07:00:10PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, e1 wrote:
>>> How you can hide you personal information if you have even a
>>> Wikipedia page about you and a dozen of books?
>> and that is probably the first thing that will get vandalized in the
>> next days :^) personal attacks seem to be a constant pattern when
>> dealing with systemd, from both factions. This is very sad and I think.
> Oh good.
> Now, who is Dyne.org?
> How is it governed?
> Who are you and are you in charge of dyne.org?
> How are you going to account for monies collected for a fork of debian?
> How is Devuan going to be organization? Who is its project leader?
> What is its structure?
> I'm still awaiting these most basic questions, starting with who are
> YOU, and what is your relationship to Dyne who is hosting this list and
> spearheading this project and soliciting money from the public?
> This is so simple.
> Its like, Hi, I'm Richard Stallman and I founded the FSF
> Hi, I'm Linus Tovalds and I oversea the Linux Kernal and Here I am and
> my contact information.
> In my near 20 years of Free Software involvement I have NEVER seen such
> secrecary and nonsense by ANYONE who was solitiing money or work for any
A bunch of us have raised similar questions, and in my case, not
completely politely - but you, sir, are going off the deep end.
Personally, I'm waiting and seeing. Certainly not giving any money,
and not contributing any resources (though I have contributed "design
goals" and "design review" of a sort). So far, I'll give these folks
the benefit of the doubt and see if any of the promised early code and
infrastructure materializes. Then I'll worry about names, detailed
c.v.s, and organizing documents.
If you have no patience, or are not satisfied with the answers - how
about starting your own fork, or howling at the moon, or something -
but please stop polluting the list.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
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