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Oh one last thing, the idea that I would attach "Deveun" is laughable.
I hate systemd and is clear from even a cursory look at the public
record on what, a dozen mailing lists?
You should at least do your research before starting a smear campaign.
the real problem here is that Denis was forced to expose himself as the
main backer of this project... and not an organization of old Unix
System Admins. It is good. That kind of exposure improves confidence
in people and lays a foundation for openness and success.
Of course, Denis has shut that all down again and is in stealth mode, so
we are back to square one with no accountability, at least now we know
who we are supporting.
On 12/21/2014 10:55 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 12/21/2014 09:25 AM, Teodoro Santoni wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 07:35:44PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>> What was finally discovered is that a man named Denis Roji is behind
>>> this project. He is in Amsterdam, one of my favorite places, but
>>> originally from Italy. He is associated with some strongly anti-semetic
>>> radicals who popped their head up in the thread, but were ignored by me.
>>> [damn big snip]
> Denis Rojo is a lying bastard, not that I really care, because I don't
> have to live with him. But if you support him, you support a lying
> bully who conjures up imaginative schemes to aggrandize himself. He has
> got the act down.
> Specifically, he has lied about his fork being lead by Old Unix Admins.
> He has lied about me threatening to sue him.
> He has lied about me claiming or ever being an opensuse developer.
> He lied about ever banning me.
> Now he double talks about that after noticing that low and behold, the
> subscription records were published by myself on the NYLXS site showed
> how he was charily lying.
> He lies about me "trying to erase any evidence of his work". That is
> laughable because frankly, he is not worth the time. And how would I
> go about that anyway.
> He lies that I've been hounding him for weeks. Actually, I've been busy
> with school and haven't even had time.
> He lies that he has nothing to do with the threat on my safety, and
> which is also public record. It is obvious to any thinking person that
> the this link was place by someone with first hand contact with Denis Rojo
> Grave acusacion pero es cierto. Ruben Safir, quien impuls? el borrado de Jaromil de Wikipedia y esta
> haciendolo con mas articulos, esta llevando a cabo esto muy personal e intentando que las donaciones
> via Stripe hacia Devuan sean bloqueadas denunciando que es una scam page. Me cans? Ruben, asi
> como alguna vez me sub? al colectivo que dejo varias paginas offline, llego el momento de que abras
> tu ano.
> El tipo este que clama ser developer de opensuse o intenta serlo, el mismo Ruben Safir que pidio el
> borrado del articulo de Jaromil de wikipedia, esta haciendo donaciones via Stripe y cancelandolas,
> diciendo que es una scam page y fue un error, buscando que bloqueen dicho canal de donacion. Esto
> ha llegado muy lejos y al menos yo, como lo hice antes, tengo ganas de que Ruben abra su ano.
> Ruben Safir quien es el ganador de un free pentest
> After pictures of my children and so on this post says on the bottom of the otherwise Spanish or Italian language:
> Ruben, do you want more?. A suggestion, stop trolling to Devuan project, is just a advice, ok?.
> Happy hacking!.
> PS: I'm not a newbie Ruben, don't play with me. Stay quiet and then I erase this post.
> So the fact you went out of your way to tell me that you support such a lying, bullying, conniving individual. Wow. I'm impressed.
> I means it doesn't surprise me that you support Roio or support Neo-Nazi's. Jews are fleeing Europe every day now. And even as bad as Denis Roio is, he is small potatoes compared to other con-artists. But it is so pathetic and so sad.
> Your the one that will have to sleep with the guilt of your activities every night. You guys are like cockroaches. When exposed to a little light, you scurry around in a panic.
> Now run along and go back to whatever life you had. I'm very impressed with your artful communication and the force of your oratory.
> Don't come near me, or my family. And don't threaten me in any fashion and this was interpreted by me as an attempt, abit a failed attempt, to intimidate me.
> Ruben Safir
>> Although I'm generally tolerant and respectful of every nature of being in
>> this world, reading people like you, who self-nominate as paladins of the
>> Israelitic people and whom in its holy name allows him/herself to spit this
>> kind of bullshit, I really can't help but being sympathethic with neonazis.
>> Would you mind to shut the hell up? I'm tryna think.
>> FYI, Jaromil is Denis Roio, not Roji. Probably you cannot really sue anyone,
>> seen your appalling persecutorial behaviour, but maybe your legal tutor would
>> need the correct name to apologize on your behalf...
>> Teodoro Santoni