|FROM ||Ruben Safir
|SUBJECT ||Re: [firstname.lastname@example.org: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Devuan Fork and Fraud]
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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:48:27 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
Cc: rms-at-gnu.org, rick-at-deirdre.net, dyfet-at-mykolab.com, hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [mrbrklyn-at-panix.com: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Devuan Fork and Fraud]
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On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:33:14AM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> dear colleagues, respectable mr.Safir,
> The website you are pointing at has nothing to do with me, nor I ever
> fostered the creation of such a website, to the contrary I did
> discourage anyone, publicly and privately and more than once to drive
> personal attacks and in general personalize the discussion around
> Mr.Safir: in case you insist to associate such rogue websites with me,
> then please provide proofs. Meanwhile, this communication is archived
> along other actual proofs I have of your defamation and false accusation
> on my name, which is actually on record.
> I refrain my wish to not be involved into this sort of communication
> anymore, since I do not have any means to help the condition of Mr.Safir
> more than I did so far. I can only commit to keep moderating the public
> lists hosted on dyne.org so that there are no personal attacks and so
> that aggressive behaviour like the one shown by mr.Safir does not spark
> any retaliation. Anything else goes beyond my capacity and I encourage
> you to investigate it as appropriated.
You did it kiddo
and you did not publically or privately try to rein in the attack that
Hiding behind anonomoity doesn't make everyone stupid
I suggest you publically call in the dogs and ask to have the posting
Two police officers where shot dead because of this kind of incitment.
Don't let anything happen to me, Denis, Not to me or the family otherwise cops
will be on your doorstep...
I hear the jails in Amsterdam suck.
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2014, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On 12/22/2014 03:09 AM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> > > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> > > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> > >
> > > > Now remember, I joined the list, talked to them, and then unsubscribed.
> > > > He then threatened me,
> > >
> > > What exactly did he say to you, that constituted threats?
> > >
> > what he did was put up a notice on one of the black hat hacking sites
> > with all my personal information, and pictures of my family and asking
> > the public to hack into my systems of harass my kids
> > that is when I went back and complained openly about his behaviour. The
> > guy is a bad apple.
> > The post reads:
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Ruben Safir busca que Devuan sea denunciado por scam page en sus
> > donaciones
> > Grave acusacion pero es cierto. Ruben Safir, quien impuls?? el borrado de
> > Jaromil de Wikipedia y esta haciendolo con mas articulos, esta llevando
> > a cabo esto muy personal e intentando que las donaciones via Stripe
> > hacia Devuan sean bloqueadas denunciando que es una scam page. Me cans??
> > Ruben, asi como alguna vez me sub?? al colectivo que dejo varias paginas
> > offline, llego el momento de que abras tu ano.
> > El tipo este que clama ser developer de opensuse o intenta serlo, el
> > mismo Ruben Safir que pidio el borrado del articulo de Jaromil de
> > wikipedia, esta haciendo donaciones via Stripe y cancelandolas, diciendo
> > que es una scam page y fue un error, buscando que bloqueen dicho canal
> > de donacion. Esto ha llegado muy lejos y al menos yo, como lo hice
> > antes, tengo ganas de que Ruben abra su ano.
> > *Ruben Safir quien es el ganador de un free pentest*
> > http://220.127.116.11/
> > http://18.104.22.168/images/?pattern=/etc/*&sort=name
> > http://22.214.171.124/backup/
> > http://126.96.36.199/manual/
> > http://www.nylxs.com/
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ANYLXS < usuario de que no uso
> > cuando pidio el borrado de Jaromil, sino que uso la IP de su sitio, como
> > si no lo fueramos a encontrar, idiota.
> > http://fairuse.nylxs.com/
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > And then it goes on from there, identifying my kids etc.
> > and it ends with:
> > "Ruben, do you want more?. A suggestion, stop trolling to Devuan
> > project, is just a advice, ok?.
> > Happy hacking!.
> > PS: I'm not a newbie Ruben, don't play with me. Stay quiet and then I
> > erase this post. "
> > It is a scare tactic. And it is not the only fruitloop thing this guy
> > has done. He is a devious SOB .... my suggestion to anyone who gets
> > near this guy is to stand clear of him. He has a certain devout
> > following so he can move projects a certain degree, but then he hits a wall.
> > With regard to the project itself, you should find someone to take over
> > this project because it is a good cause, IMO. I know it is not that
> > simple..... I well know. But still, a viable long term non-systemd
> > based system is vital, IMO for the long term health of the GNU Ecosystem
> > and the FSF should step in an try to assure continuity outside of the
> > systemd fork that is happening.
> > I'd be happy to help, but this band of goons can't be relied upon.
> > Ruben
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