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MESSAGE
DATE 2013-06-10
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Jun 10 01:25:17 2013
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From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
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On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> >> Rubin
> >> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K please... :-)
> >
> >
> > the last mutt release was 2010. It works fine. You can read everything
> > I send you.
>
> Really then why cant it do some thing smart like recognize the mime
> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C libraries for
> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correctly?
>


because then it wouldn't be plain text.


>
> >
> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of unformated binary data as email.
> > I'm not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want your email
> > read, it needs to be plain text, and why in your right mind would you
> > chose to send anything else. This is not that my mutt email reader
> > which I SSH to a terminal from, has problems. Your sending unproperly
> > formated emails.
>
> HTML=! Binary
>
> HTML =~ Well Formatted
>
> Don't blame others or HTML because your email client of choice is one
> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt RFC compliant
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> "
> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> (MIME) Part One:
> Format of Internet Message Bodies
> "
>
> The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you the
> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the standard since 1997 have
> been the addition of internationalization headers in 2008 and a
> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
>
>
> >
> > It does hell to the database as well.
>
> Use one of the standard escaping methods.
>
> >
> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
> >
>
> Which one are you using? If a spam filter can be defeated by HTML in
> this day and age its got some serious problems.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client can read them so why can't
> >> yours.
> >>
> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which
> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.
> >>
> >>
> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP Touch Pad.
> >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the video card
> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> >> I looked in to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones I wanted to be
> >> able to updated the OS and apps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.
> >>
> >> There are some updates in the community app store but since the platform is
> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but not many.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand held thingie?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > http://www.mutt.org/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Rubin
 get an email client which has been updated since Y2K
> >> > please... :-) 
Seriously Netscape communicators mail client can
> >> > read them so why can't yours. 

Its mime encoded HTML its
> >> >  not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which oddly I have seen
> >> > people do on mailing lists before.



> >> > style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">--
> >> > Sent from my HP Pre3

> >> > style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at
> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> >> >
> By the way Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP Touch
> >> > Pad.<br>You
> >> >
can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the video
> >> >
card needs proprietary
> >> >

> >> >

> >> >
I really can not read this. :(
> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >
drivers.<br>I looked in to it a while ago
> >> >
and while I love Palm phones I wanted to be able to updated the OS
> >> >
and apps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.<br><br>There
> >> > are some
> >> >
updates in the community app store but since the platform is mostly
> >> >
dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
> >> >
are being developed on open webOS 1.x but not many.<br><span
> >> >
style="font-family:Prelude, Verdana,
> >> > san-serif;"><br><br></span><span
> >> >
id="signature"><div style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;
> >> > font-size:
> >> >
12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP
> >> > Pre3</div><br></span><span
> >> >
style="color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr
> >> >
align="left" style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM, Ruben Safir
> >> >
&lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt; wrote:
> >> > <br><br></span>On Sun, Jun 09,
> >> >
2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes wrote:<br>&gt; On Jun
> >> > 9,
> >> >
2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir" &lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt;
> >> >
wrote:<br><br><br>On this mailing list is one of the
> >> > great hardware
> >> >
people in the tristate<br>area and he is just like.... listening
> >> >
without ever typing :)<br><br><br>&gt;
> >> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >> >
&gt; It is on a card<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >> > &gt;<br>&gt;
> >> >

> >> > http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>&gt
> >> > ;
> >> >
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >> > <br>&gt; That'll make replacing the card
> >> >
easy, then.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Now if you can find
> >> > somewhere that
> >> >
has replacement parts in stock, then all<br>&gt; that's
> >> > needed is
> >> >
a little transplant surgery.<br>&gt; <br>&gt;
> >> > --Robert<br>
> >> >

> >> >

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  86. 2013-06-28 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership
  87. 2013-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open
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  89. 2013-06-30 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership
  90. 2013-06-30 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership

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