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MESSAGE
DATE 2013-06-10
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Jun 10 23:40:39 2013
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From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 06:39:17PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Ah ha so you admit it you're just being difficult for the sake
of being difficult. You purposely disabled the support for HTML
messages in mutt. Well that's your own fault not mine! Just for
that I will make all my messages on hang out HTML as a protest till
you accept the fact that its not the 80s any more and you're just
going to have to deal with it.

By the way is everyone at
least getting a chuckle out of this good old fashion flame war
goodness.



-- Sent from
my HP Pre3


On Jun
10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Paul Robert
Marino wrote:
> Oh wait mutt does support HTML body in emails
via lynx or your choice
> of other console based browsers
you just don't have it configured!
>
>
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75


Don't
be so naive Robert. I disabled it a long time ago

>

>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert
Marino
> <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> wrote:
> >
Rubin
> > huh?
> > who cares if the content is
"plain text" as long as it renders that
> > way on the
console.
> > lynx is a console web browser no X11 required,
and it works well over
> > ssh so I don't get your
point.
> > lynx is not a new piece software its been around
for a long time as a
> > matter of fact the changelog for
version 2.3 goes back to 1992, so
> > none of this is new
or even a radical concept.
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013
at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert
Marino wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM,
Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
> >>>
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
wrote:
> >>> >> Rubin
> >>>
>> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K
please... :-)
> >>> >
> >>>
>
> >>> > the last mutt release was 2010. It
works fine. You can read everything
> >>> > I
send you.
> >>>
> >>> Really then
why cant it do some thing smart like recognize the mime
>
>>> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of
C libraries for
> >>> HTML/XML to format it in your
terminal correctly?
> >>>
> >>
>
>>
> >> because then it wouldn't be plain
text.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
>
>>> >
> >>> > Y2K is no reason to
get globs of unformated binary data as email.
> >>>
> I'm not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want
your email
> >>> > read, it needs to be plain
text, and why in your right mind would you
> >>>
> chose to send anything else. This is not that my mutt email
reader
> >>> > which I SSH to a terminal from,
has problems. Your sending unproperly
> >>> >
formated emails.
> >>>
> >>> HTML=!
Binary
> >>>
> >>> HTML =~ Well
Formatted
> >>>
> >>> Don't blame
others or HTML because your email client of choice is one
>
>>> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt
RFC compliant
> >>>
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> >>> "
>
>>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> >>>
(MIME) Part One:
> >>> Format of Internet Message
Bodies
> >>> "
> >>>
> >>>
The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you
the
> >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to
the standard since 1997 have
> >>> been the addition
of internationalization headers in 2008 and a
> >>>
revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>> >
>
>>> > It does hell to the database as well.
>
>>>
> >>> Use one of the standard escaping
methods.
> >>>
> >>> >
>
>>> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
>
>>> >
> >>>
> >>> Which
one are you using? If a spam filter can be defeated by HTML in
>
>>> this day and age its got some serious problems.
>
>>>
> >>>
> >>> >
>
>>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
>> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client can read them
so why can't
> >>> >> yours.
> >>>
>>
> >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its
not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which
> >>>
>> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.
>
>>> >>
> >>> >>
>
>>> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hack
an HP Touch Pad.
> >>> >> You can't put
GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the video card
>
>>> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> >>>
>> I looked in to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones
I wanted to be
> >>> >> able to updated the
OS and apps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.
> >>>
>>
> >>> >> There are some updates in
the community app store but since the platform is
> >>>
>> mostly dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0
or 3.0. Some apps
> >>> >> are being developed
on Open webOS 1.x but not many.
> >>> >>
>
>>> >>
> >>> >>
>
>>> >>
> >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9,
2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
>
>>> >>
> >>> >> > On Sun,
Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>
>>> >> >
> >>> >> >
>
>>> >> >
> >>> >> >
>
>>> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand
held thingie?
> >>> >> >
> >>>
>> >
> >>> >> >
http://www.mutt.org/
> >>> >> >
>
>>> >> >
> >>> >> >
>
>>> >> >
> >>> >> >
>
>>> >> > > Rubin<br>&nbsp;get an
email client which has been updated since Y2K
> >>>
>> > please... :-)&nbsp;<br>Seriously Netscape
communicators mail client can
> >>> >> >
read them so why can't yours.&nbsp;<br><br>Its mime
encoded HTML its
> >>> >> > &nbsp;not
as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which oddly I have seen
>
>>> >> > people do on mailing lists
before.<br><br><span style="font-family:Prelude,
>
>>> >> > Verdana,
san-serif;"><br><br></span><span
id="signature"><div
> >>> >> >
style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color:
#999999;">--
> >>> >> > Sent from my HP
Pre3</div><br></span><span style="color:navy;
>
>>> >> > font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;
"><hr align="left"
> >>> >> >
style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
>
>>> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt; wrote:
<br><br></span>On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at
>
>>> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
wrote:
> >>> >> > <br>&gt; By
the way Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP Touch
>
>>> >> > Pad.&lt;br&gt;You
>
>>> >> > <br>can't put GNU/Linux on it or
open webOS/Linux because the video
> >>> >>
> <br>card needs proprietary
> >>> >>
> <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
>
>>> >> > <br>I really can not read this.
:(
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>>
>> > <br>
> >>> >> >
<br>
> >>> >> > <br>
>
>>> >> > <br>drivers.&lt;br&gt;I
looked in to it a while ago
> >>> >> >
<br>and while I love Palm phones I wanted to be able to
updated the OS
> >>> >> > <br>and
apps on my Pre 3 and found I
couldn't.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There
> >>>
>> > are some
> >>> >> >
<br>updates in the community app store but since the platform
is mostly
> >>> >> > <br>dead most
of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
>
>>> >> > <br>are being developed on open
webOS 1.x but not many.&lt;br&gt;&lt;span
>
>>> >> > <br>style="font-family:Prelude,
Verdana,
> >>> >> >
san-serif;"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span
>
>>> >> > <br>id="signature"&gt;&lt;div
style="font-family: arial, sans-serif;
> >>> >>
> font-size:
> >>> >> > <br>12px;color:
#999999;"&gt;-- Sent from my HP
> >>> >>
>
Pre3&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span
>
>>> >> > <br>style="color:navy;
font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "&gt;&lt;hr
>
>>> >> > <br>align="left"
style="width:75%"&gt;On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM, Ruben Safir
>
>>> >> >
<br>&amp;lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&amp;gt; wrote:
>
>>> >> >
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;On Sun,
Jun 09,
> >>> >> > <br>2013 at
12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes wrote:&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
On Jun
> >>> >> > 9,
> >>>
>> > <br>2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir"
&amp;lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&amp;gt;
> >>>
>> >
<br>wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On
this mailing list is one of the
> >>> >> >
great hardware
> >>> >> > <br>people
in the tristate&lt;br&gt;area and he is just like....
listening
> >>> >> > <br>without ever
typing
:)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
>
>>> >> > &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
> >>>
>> > <br>&amp;gt; It is on a
card&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
> >>>
>> > &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
>
>>> >> > <br>
> >>> >>
>
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt
>
>>> >> > ;
> >>> >> >
<br>&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
> >>>
>> > &lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That'll make replacing
the card
> >>> >> > <br>easy,
then.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
Now if you can find
> >>> >> > somewhere
that
> >>> >> > <br>has replacement
parts in stock, then all&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that's
>
>>> >> > needed is
> >>> >>
> <br>a little transplant surgery.&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
> >>> >> >
--Robert&lt;br&gt;
> >>> >> >
<br>
> >>> >> >

>> believe) north-american language, monetary, numeric and time values.




Sorry paul, this is not readable again

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  53. 2013-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] html problem
  54. 2013-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
  55. 2013-06-11 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
  56. 2013-06-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
  57. 2013-06-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] televsion content wars
  58. 2013-06-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  59. 2013-06-14 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  60. 2013-06-14 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  61. 2013-06-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  62. 2013-06-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  63. 2013-06-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  64. 2013-06-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Troubles with hotel arraingments
  65. 2013-06-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] secure mail - and security
  66. 2013-06-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: question about forwarding and sysfs entries
  67. 2013-06-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) HTTP POST for file upload
  68. 2013-06-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (fwd) Re: HTTP POST for file upload
  69. 2013-06-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fishing dates
  70. 2013-06-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] So while you were away this weekend
  71. 2013-06-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [NYLXS] Secure your email. Get your own email server and...
  72. 2013-06-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] So while you were away this weekend
  73. 2013-06-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] So while you were away this weekend
  74. 2013-06-16 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] So while you were away this weekend
  75. 2013-06-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] biometrics - I can see you!!
  76. 2013-06-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] image galleries for the web
  77. 2013-06-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] image galleries - a REAL HACK
  78. 2013-06-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A little fraud never hurt anyone
  79. 2013-06-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] github
  80. 2013-06-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] employment help
  81. 2013-06-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] kill count
  82. 2013-06-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] kill count
  83. 2013-06-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] what is the government doing?
  84. 2013-06-27 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Any thoughts on this, Sacramento State 8008 computer, the world's-first
  85. 2013-06-28 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: New job Kansas City Perl developer roles available
  86. 2013-06-28 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership
  87. 2013-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open
  88. 2013-06-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open
  89. 2013-06-30 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership
  90. 2013-06-30 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MySQL mistake is a wake-up call on open source ownership

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