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I'm getting' misty over all this Flame War behavior ... Almost makes me
miss Jay
I say almost
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Ah ha so you admit it you're just being difficult for the sake of being
> difficult. You purposely disabled the support for HTML messages in mutt.
> Well that's your own fault not mine! Just for that I will make all my
> messages on hang out HTML as a protest till you accept the fact that its
> not the 80s any more and you're just going to have to deal with it.
>
> By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of this good old
> fashion flame war goodness.
>
>
>
> -- Sent from my HP Pre3
>
> ------------------------------
> On Jun 10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > Oh wait mutt does support HTML body in emails via lynx or your choice
> > of other console based browsers you just don't have it configured!
> >
> > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75
>
>
> Don't be so naive Robert. I disabled it a long time ago
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Marino
> > wrote:
> > > Rubin
> > > huh?
> > > who cares if the content is "plain text" as long as it renders that
> > > way on the console.
> > > lynx is a console web browser no X11 required, and it works well over
> > > ssh so I don't get your point.
> > > lynx is not a new piece software its been around for a long time as a
> > > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 1992, so
> > > none of this is new or even a radical concept.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >>> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
> wrote:
> > >>> >> Rubin
> > >>> >> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K please...
> :-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > the last mutt release was 2010. It works fine. You can read
> everything
> > >>> > I send you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Really then why cant it do some thing smart like recognize the mime
> > >>> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C libraries for
> > >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correctly?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> because then it wouldn't be plain text.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of unformated binary data as email.
> > >>> > I'm not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want your
> email
> > >>> > read, it needs to be plain text, and why in your right mind would
> you
> > >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that my mutt email reader
> > >>> > which I SSH to a terminal from, has problems. Your sending
> unproperly
> > >>> > formated emails.
> > >>>
> > >>> HTML=! Binary
> > >>>
> > >>> HTML =~ Well Formatted
> > >>>
> > >>> Don't blame others or HTML because your email client of choice is
> one
> > >>> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt RFC compliant
> > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> > >>> "
> > >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> > >>> (MIME) Part One:
> > >>> Format of Internet Message Bodies
> > >>> "
> > >>>
> > >>> The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you
> the
> > >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the standard since 1997
> have
> > >>> been the addition of internationalization headers in 2008 and a
> > >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It does hell to the database as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filter can be defeated by HTML in
> > >>> this day and age its got some serious problems.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client can read them so why
> can't
> > >>> >> yours.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as though I'm GPG encrypting my
> emails which
> > >>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP Touch Pad.
> > >>> >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the
> video card
> > >>> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> > >>> >> I looked in to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones I
> wanted to be
> > >>> >> able to updated the OS and apps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> There are some updates in the community app store but since the
> platform is
> > >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.
> Some apps
> > >>> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but not many.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
> wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand held thingie?
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > http://www.mutt.org/
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > > Rubin
get an email client which has been updated
> since Y2K
> > >>> >> > please... :-)
Seriously Netscape communicators mail
> client can
> > >>> >> > read them so why can't yours.
Its mime encoded
> HTML its
> > >>> >> > not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which oddly I
> have seen
> > >>> >> > people do on mailing lists before.
> style="font-family:Prelude,
> > >>> >> > Verdana, san-serif;">
> > >>> >> > style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color:
> #999999;">--
> > >>> >> > Sent from my HP Pre3
> > >>> >> > style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
> > >>> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun
> 09, 2013 at
> > >>> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> By the way Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP
> Touch
> > >>> >> > Pad.<br>You
> > >>> >> >
can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the
> video
> > >>> >> >
card needs proprietary
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
I really can not read this. :(
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
drivers.<br>I looked in to it a while ago
> > >>> >> >
and while I love Palm phones I wanted to be able to updated
> the OS
> > >>> >> >
and apps on my Pre 3 and found I
> couldn't.<br><br>There
> > >>> >> > are some
> > >>> >> >
updates in the community app store but since the platform
> is mostly
> > >>> >> >
dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.
> Some apps
> > >>> >> >
are being developed on open webOS 1.x but not
> many.<br><span
> > >>> >> >
style="font-family:Prelude, Verdana,
> > >>> >> > san-serif;"><br><br></span><span
> > >>> >> >
id="signature"><div style="font-family: arial,
> sans-serif;
> > >>> >> > font-size:
> > >>> >> >
12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP
> > >>> >> > Pre3</div><br></span><span
> > >>> >> >
style="color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;
> "><hr
> > >>> >> >
align="left" style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM,
> Ruben Safir
> > >>> >> >
<mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
> > >>> >> > <br><br></span>On Sun, Jun 09,
> > >>> >> >
2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes
> wrote:<br>> On Jun
> > >>> >> > 9,
> > >>> >> >
2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>
>
> > >>> >> >
wrote:<br><br><br>On this mailing list is
> one of the
> > >>> >> > great hardware
> > >>> >> >
people in the tristate<br>area and he is just
> like.... listening
> > >>> >> >
without ever typing
> :)<br><br><br>>
> > >>> >> > ><br>> ><br>>
> > >>> >> >
> It is on a card<br>>
> ><br>>
> > >>> >> > ><br>>
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>>>>
> > >>> >> > ;
> > >>> >> >
><br>> ><br>>
> > >>> >> > <br>> That'll make replacing the card
> > >>> >> >
easy, then.<br>> <br>> Now if you
> can find
> > >>> >> > somewhere that
> > >>> >> >
has replacement parts in stock, then all<br>>
> that's
> > >>> >> > needed is
> > >>> >> >
a little transplant surgery.<br>>
> <br>>
> > >>> >> > --Robert<br>
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
>
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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havior ... Almost makes me miss Jay
I say almost lass=3D"gmail_extra"> On Mon, Jun 10, 201= 3 at 6:39 PM, Paul Robert Marino <marino1-at-gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">prmarino1-at-gmail.com> wro= te: x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ah ha so you admit it you're just being =
difficult for the sake of being difficult. You purposely disabled the suppo=
rt for HTML messages in mutt. Well that's your own fault not mine! Just=
for that I will make all my messages on hang out HTML as a protest till yo=
u accept the fact that its not the 80s any more and you're just going t=
o have to deal with it.
By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of this good old =
fashion flame war goodness.
na,san-serif">
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-- Sent from my HP Pre3
ly:Prelude,Verdana,san-serif">
On Jun=
10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir <rget=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wro=
te:
> Oh wait mutt does support HTML body in emails via lynx or your cho=
ice
> of other console based browsers you just don't have it configu=
red!
>=20
> t=3D"_blank">http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75
Don't be so naive Robert. I disabled it a long time ago
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Marino
> <prmar=
ino1-at-gmail.com> wrote:
> > Rubin
> > huh?
> > who cares if the content is "plain text" as long as=
it renders that
> > way on the console.
> > lynx is a console web browser no X11 required, and it works w=
ell over
> > ssh so I don't get your point.
> > lynx is not a new piece software its been around for a long t=
ime as a
> > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 199=
2, so
> > none of this is new or even a radical concept.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir <ailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrot=
e:
> >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Mar=
ino wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir <ef=3D"mailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&g=
t; wrote:
> >>> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul R=
obert Marino wrote:
> >>> >> Rubin
> >>> >> get an email client which has been updated =
since Y2K please... :-)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > the last mutt release was 2010. It works fine. =
You can read everything
> >>> > I send you.
> >>>
> >>> Really then why cant it do some thing smart like reco=
gnize the mime
> >>> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C=
libraries for
> >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correctly?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> because then it wouldn't be plain text.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of unformated bina=
ry data as email.
> >>> > I'm not trying to discorage you from posting=
, but it you want your email
> >>> > read, it needs to be plain text, and why in your=
right mind would you
> >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that m=
y mutt email reader
> >>> > which I SSH to a terminal from, has problems. Y=
our sending unproperly
> >>> > formated emails.
> >>>
> >>> HTML=3D! Binary
> >>>
> >>> HTML =3D~ Well Formatted
> >>>
> >>> Don't blame others or HTML because your email cli=
ent of choice is one
> >>> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt =
RFC compliant
> >>> =3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> >>> "
> >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> >>> (MIME) Part One:
> >>> Format of Internet Message Bodies
> >>> "
> >>>
> >>> The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the o=
ne i sent you the
> >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the standard=
since 1997 have
> >>> been the addition of internationalization headers in =
2008 and a
> >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > It does hell to the database as well.
> >>>
> >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filter can be defe=
ated by HTML in
> >>> this day and age its got some serious problems.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client=
can read them so why can't
> >>> >> yours.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as though I&#=
39;m GPG encrypting my emails which
> >>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists=
before.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hac=
k an HP Touch Pad.
> >>> >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open we=
bOS/Linux because the video card
> >>> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> >>> >> I looked in to it a while ago and while I lo=
ve Palm phones I wanted to be
> >>> >> able to updated the OS and apps on my Pre 3 =
and found I couldn't.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There are some updates in the community app =
store but since the platform is
> >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't w=
ork on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
> >>> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but no=
t many.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir =
<mrbrklyn-at-panix.=
com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -040=
0, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand=
held thingie?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > =3D"_blank">http://www.mutt.org/
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > > Rubin<br> get an em=
ail client which has been updated since Y2K
> >>> >> > please... :-) <br>Seriou=
sly Netscape communicators mail client can
> >>> >> > read them so why can't yours.&n=
bsp;<br><br>Its mime encoded HTML its
> >>> >> > not as though I'm GPG enc=
rypting my emails which oddly I have seen
> >>> >> > people do on mailing lists before.<b=
r><br><span style=3D"font-family:Prelude,
> >>> >> > Verdana, san-serif;"><br>=
<br></span><span id=3D"signature"><div
> >>> >> > style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-=
serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">--
> >>> >> > Sent from my HP Pre3</div><br&=
gt;</span><span style=3D"color:navy;
> >>> >> > font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif=
; "><hr align=3D"left"
> >>> >> > style=3D"width:75%">On Jun=
9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
> >>> >> > om" target=3D"_blank">lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote: <br>&l=
t;br></span>On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at
> >>> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wr=
ote:
> >>> >> > <br>> By the way Rubin why=
are you trying to hack an HP Touch
> >>> >> > Pad.<br>You
> >>> >> > <br>can't put GNU/Linux on it=
or open webOS/Linux because the video
> >>> >> > <br>card needs proprietary
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>I really can not read this. =
:(
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>drivers.<br>I l=
ooked in to it a while ago
> >>> >> > <br>and while I love Palm phones =
I wanted to be able to updated the OS
> >>> >> > <br>and apps on my Pre 3 and foun=
d I couldn't.<br><br>There
> >>> >> > are some
> >>> >> > <br>updates in the community app =
store but since the platform is mostly
> >>> >> > <br>dead most of the new ones won=
't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
> >>> >> > <br>are being developed on open w=
ebOS 1.x but not many.<br><span
> >>> >> > <br>style=3D"font-family:Pre=
lude, Verdana,
> >>> >> > san-serif;"><br&=
gt;<br></span><span
> >>> >> > <br>id=3D"signature"&am=
p;gt;<div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;
> >>> >> > font-size:
> >>> >> > <br>12px;color: #999999;"&am=
p;gt;-- Sent from my HP
> >>> >> > Pre3</div><br&=
gt;</span><span
> >>> >> > <br>style=3D"color:navy; fon=
t-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr
> >>> >> > <br>align=3D"left" styl=
e=3D"width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM, Ruben Safir
> >>> >> > <br><%3Bmrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">amp;lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&am=
p;amp;gt; wrote:
> >>> >> > <br><br>&am=
p;lt;/span>On Sun, Jun 09,
> >>> >> > <br>2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Rob=
ert Menes wrote:<br>&gt; On Jun
> >>> >> > 9,
> >>> >> > <br>2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Sa=
fir" &blank">amp;lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt;
> >>> >> > <br>wrote:<br>&=
lt;br><br>On this mailing list is one of the
> >>> >> > great hardware
> >>> >> > <br>people in the tristate<=
;br>area and he is just like.... listening
> >>> >> > <br>without ever typing :)<=
;br><br><br>&gt;
> >>> >> > &gt;<br>&=
gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >>> >> > <br>&gt; It is on a card&=
amp;lt;br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >>> >> > &gt;<br>&=
gt;
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>>" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connecto=
r+Board/6077/1<br>&gt
> >>> >> > ;
> >>> >> > <br>&gt;<br>=
;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >>> >> > <br>&gt; That'=
;ll make replacing the card
> >>> >> > <br>easy, then.<br>=
&gt; <br>&gt; Now if you can find
> >>> >> > somewhere that
> >>> >> > <br>has replacement parts in stoc=
k, then all<br>&gt; that's
> >>> >> > needed is
> >>> >> > <br>a little transplant surgery.&=
amp;lt;br>&gt; <br>&gt;
> >>> >> > --Robert<br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> >
-- Regards, Ev= an M. Inker
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I'm getting' misty over all this Flame War behavior ... Almost makes me
miss Jay
I say almost
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Ah ha so you admit it you're just being difficult for the sake of being
> difficult. You purposely disabled the support for HTML messages in mutt.
> Well that's your own fault not mine! Just for that I will make all my
> messages on hang out HTML as a protest till you accept the fact that its
> not the 80s any more and you're just going to have to deal with it.
>
> By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of this good old
> fashion flame war goodness.
>
>
>
> -- Sent from my HP Pre3
>
> ------------------------------
> On Jun 10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > Oh wait mutt does support HTML body in emails via lynx or your choice
> > of other console based browsers you just don't have it configured!
> >
> > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75
>
>
> Don't be so naive Robert. I disabled it a long time ago
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Marino
> > wrote:
> > > Rubin
> > > huh?
> > > who cares if the content is "plain text" as long as it renders that
> > > way on the console.
> > > lynx is a console web browser no X11 required, and it works well over
> > > ssh so I don't get your point.
> > > lynx is not a new piece software its been around for a long time as a
> > > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 1992, so
> > > none of this is new or even a radical concept.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >>> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
> wrote:
> > >>> >> Rubin
> > >>> >> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K please...
> :-)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > the last mutt release was 2010. It works fine. You can read
> everything
> > >>> > I send you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Really then why cant it do some thing smart like recognize the mime
> > >>> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C libraries for
> > >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correctly?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> because then it wouldn't be plain text.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of unformated binary data as email.
> > >>> > I'm not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want your
> email
> > >>> > read, it needs to be plain text, and why in your right mind would
> you
> > >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that my mutt email reader
> > >>> > which I SSH to a terminal from, has problems. Your sending
> unproperly
> > >>> > formated emails.
> > >>>
> > >>> HTML=! Binary
> > >>>
> > >>> HTML =~ Well Formatted
> > >>>
> > >>> Don't blame others or HTML because your email client of choice is
> one
> > >>> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt RFC compliant
> > >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> > >>> "
> > >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> > >>> (MIME) Part One:
> > >>> Format of Internet Message Bodies
> > >>> "
> > >>>
> > >>> The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you
> the
> > >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the standard since 1997
> have
> > >>> been the addition of internationalization headers in 2008 and a
> > >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It does hell to the database as well.
> > >>>
> > >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filter can be defeated by HTML in
> > >>> this day and age its got some serious problems.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client can read them so why
> can't
> > >>> >> yours.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as though I'm GPG encrypting my
> emails which
> > >>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP Touch Pad.
> > >>> >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the
> video card
> > >>> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> > >>> >> I looked in to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones I
> wanted to be
> > >>> >> able to updated the OS and apps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> There are some updates in the community app store but since the
> platform is
> > >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.
> Some apps
> > >>> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but not many.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir
> wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino
> wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand held thingie?
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > http://www.mutt.org/
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> > > Rubin
get an email client which has been updated
> since Y2K
> > >>> >> > please... :-)
Seriously Netscape communicators mail
> client can
> > >>> >> > read them so why can't yours.
Its mime encoded
> HTML its
> > >>> >> > not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which oddly I
> have seen
> > >>> >> > people do on mailing lists before.
> style="font-family:Prelude,
> > >>> >> > Verdana, san-serif;">
> > >>> >> > style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color:
> #999999;">--
> > >>> >> > Sent from my HP Pre3
> > >>> >> > style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
> > >>> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On Sun, Jun
> 09, 2013 at
> > >>> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > >>> >> >
> By the way Rubin why are you trying to hack an HP
> Touch
> > >>> >> > Pad.<br>You
> > >>> >> >
can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the
> video
> > >>> >> >
card needs proprietary
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
I really can not read this. :(
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
drivers.<br>I looked in to it a while ago
> > >>> >> >
and while I love Palm phones I wanted to be able to updated
> the OS
> > >>> >> >
and apps on my Pre 3 and found I
> couldn't.<br><br>There
> > >>> >> > are some
> > >>> >> >
updates in the community app store but since the platform
> is mostly
> > >>> >> >
dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.
> Some apps
> > >>> >> >
are being developed on open webOS 1.x but not
> many.<br><span
> > >>> >> >
style="font-family:Prelude, Verdana,
> > >>> >> > san-serif;"><br><br></span><span
> > >>> >> >
id="signature"><div style="font-family: arial,
> sans-serif;
> > >>> >> > font-size:
> > >>> >> >
12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP
> > >>> >> > Pre3</div><br></span><span
> > >>> >> >
style="color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;
> "><hr
> > >>> >> >
align="left" style="width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM,
> Ruben Safir
> > >>> >> >
<mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
> > >>> >> > <br><br></span>On Sun, Jun 09,
> > >>> >> >
2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes
> wrote:<br>> On Jun
> > >>> >> > 9,
> > >>> >> >
2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir" <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>
>
> > >>> >> >
wrote:<br><br><br>On this mailing list is
> one of the
> > >>> >> > great hardware
> > >>> >> >
people in the tristate<br>area and he is just
> like.... listening
> > >>> >> >
without ever typing
> :)<br><br><br>>
> > >>> >> > ><br>> ><br>>
> > >>> >> >
> It is on a card<br>>
> ><br>>
> > >>> >> > ><br>>
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>>>>
> > >>> >> > ;
> > >>> >> >
><br>> ><br>>
> > >>> >> > <br>> That'll make replacing the card
> > >>> >> >
easy, then.<br>> <br>> Now if you
> can find
> > >>> >> > somewhere that
> > >>> >> >
has replacement parts in stock, then all<br>>
> that's
> > >>> >> > needed is
> > >>> >> >
a little transplant surgery.<br>>
> <br>>
> > >>> >> > --Robert<br>
> > >>> >> >
> > >>> >> >
>
--
Regards,
Evan M. Inker
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difficult for the sake of being difficult. You purposely disabled the suppo=
rt for HTML messages in mutt. Well that's your own fault not mine! Just=
for that I will make all my messages on hang out HTML as a protest till yo=
u accept the fact that its not the 80s any more and you're just going t=
o have to deal with it.
By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of this good old =
fashion flame war goodness.
na,san-serif">
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-- Sent from my HP Pre3
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On Jun=
10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir <rget=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wro=
te:
> Oh wait mutt does support HTML body in emails via lynx or your cho=
ice
> of other console based browsers you just don't have it configu=
red!
>=20
> t=3D"_blank">http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75
Don't be so naive Robert. I disabled it a long time ago
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Marino
> <prmar=
ino1-at-gmail.com> wrote:
> > Rubin
> > huh?
> > who cares if the content is "plain text" as long as=
it renders that
> > way on the console.
> > lynx is a console web browser no X11 required, and it works w=
ell over
> > ssh so I don't get your point.
> > lynx is not a new piece software its been around for a long t=
ime as a
> > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 199=
2, so
> > none of this is new or even a radical concept.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir <ailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrot=
e:
> >> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Mar=
ino wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir <ef=3D"mailto:mrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&g=
t; wrote:
> >>> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul R=
obert Marino wrote:
> >>> >> Rubin
> >>> >> get an email client which has been updated =
since Y2K please... :-)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > the last mutt release was 2010. It works fine. =
You can read everything
> >>> > I send you.
> >>>
> >>> Really then why cant it do some thing smart like reco=
gnize the mime
> >>> encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C=
libraries for
> >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correctly?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> because then it wouldn't be plain text.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of unformated bina=
ry data as email.
> >>> > I'm not trying to discorage you from posting=
, but it you want your email
> >>> > read, it needs to be plain text, and why in your=
right mind would you
> >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that m=
y mutt email reader
> >>> > which I SSH to a terminal from, has problems. Y=
our sending unproperly
> >>> > formated emails.
> >>>
> >>> HTML=3D! Binary
> >>>
> >>> HTML =3D~ Well Formatted
> >>>
> >>> Don't blame others or HTML because your email cli=
ent of choice is one
> >>> of the few relic still in use in the world that isnt =
RFC compliant
> >>> =3D"_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2045
> >>> "
> >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions
> >>> (MIME) Part One:
> >>> Format of Internet Message Bodies
> >>> "
> >>>
> >>> The oldest version of the standard is from 1993 the o=
ne i sent you the
> >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the standard=
since 1997 have
> >>> been the addition of internationalization headers in =
2008 and a
> >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > It does hell to the database as well.
> >>>
> >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filters.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filter can be defe=
ated by HTML in
> >>> this day and age its got some serious problems.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mail client=
can read them so why can't
> >>> >> yours.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as though I&#=
39;m GPG encrypting my emails which
> >>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists=
before.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> further more Rubin why are you trying to hac=
k an HP Touch Pad.
> >>> >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open we=
bOS/Linux because the video card
> >>> >> needs proprietary drivers.
> >>> >> I looked in to it a while ago and while I lo=
ve Palm phones I wanted to be
> >>> >> able to updated the OS and apps on my Pre 3 =
and found I couldn't.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There are some updates in the community app =
store but since the platform is
> >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't w=
ork on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
> >>> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but no=
t many.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir =
<mrbrklyn-at-panix.=
com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -040=
0, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on your hand=
held thingie?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > =3D"_blank">http://www.mutt.org/
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > > Rubin<br> get an em=
ail client which has been updated since Y2K
> >>> >> > please... :-) <br>Seriou=
sly Netscape communicators mail client can
> >>> >> > read them so why can't yours.&n=
bsp;<br><br>Its mime encoded HTML its
> >>> >> > not as though I'm GPG enc=
rypting my emails which oddly I have seen
> >>> >> > people do on mailing lists before.<b=
r><br><span style=3D"font-family:Prelude,
> >>> >> > Verdana, san-serif;"><br>=
<br></span><span id=3D"signature"><div
> >>> >> > style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-=
serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">--
> >>> >> > Sent from my HP Pre3</div><br&=
gt;</span><span style=3D"color:navy;
> >>> >> > font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif=
; "><hr align=3D"left"
> >>> >> > style=3D"width:75%">On Jun=
9, 2013 2:14 PM, Ruben Safir &
> >>> >> > om" target=3D"_blank">lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote: <br>&l=
t;br></span>On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at
> >>> >> > 10:08:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wr=
ote:
> >>> >> > <br>> By the way Rubin why=
are you trying to hack an HP Touch
> >>> >> > Pad.<br>You
> >>> >> > <br>can't put GNU/Linux on it=
or open webOS/Linux because the video
> >>> >> > <br>card needs proprietary
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>I really can not read this. =
:(
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > <br>drivers.<br>I l=
ooked in to it a while ago
> >>> >> > <br>and while I love Palm phones =
I wanted to be able to updated the OS
> >>> >> > <br>and apps on my Pre 3 and foun=
d I couldn't.<br><br>There
> >>> >> > are some
> >>> >> > <br>updates in the community app =
store but since the platform is mostly
> >>> >> > <br>dead most of the new ones won=
't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0. Some apps
> >>> >> > <br>are being developed on open w=
ebOS 1.x but not many.<br><span
> >>> >> > <br>style=3D"font-family:Pre=
lude, Verdana,
> >>> >> > san-serif;"><br&=
gt;<br></span><span
> >>> >> > <br>id=3D"signature"&am=
p;gt;<div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif;
> >>> >> > font-size:
> >>> >> > <br>12px;color: #999999;"&am=
p;gt;-- Sent from my HP
> >>> >> > Pre3</div><br&=
gt;</span><span
> >>> >> > <br>style=3D"color:navy; fon=
t-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr
> >>> >> > <br>align=3D"left" styl=
e=3D"width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 AM, Ruben Safir
> >>> >> > <br><%3Bmrbrklyn-at-panix.com" target=3D"_blank">amp;lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&am=
p;amp;gt; wrote:
> >>> >> > <br><br>&am=
p;lt;/span>On Sun, Jun 09,
> >>> >> > <br>2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Rob=
ert Menes wrote:<br>&gt; On Jun
> >>> >> > 9,
> >>> >> > <br>2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Sa=
fir" &blank">amp;lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt;
> >>> >> > <br>wrote:<br>&=
lt;br><br>On this mailing list is one of the
> >>> >> > great hardware
> >>> >> > <br>people in the tristate<=
;br>area and he is just like.... listening
> >>> >> > <br>without ever typing :)<=
;br><br><br>&gt;
> >>> >> > &gt;<br>&=
gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >>> >> > <br>&gt; It is on a card&=
amp;lt;br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >>> >> > &gt;<br>&=
gt;
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> > Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>>" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connecto=
r+Board/6077/1<br>&gt
> >>> >> > ;
> >>> >> > <br>&gt;<br>=
;&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
> >>> >> > <br>&gt; That'=
;ll make replacing the card
> >>> >> > <br>easy, then.<br>=
&gt; <br>&gt; Now if you can find
> >>> >> > somewhere that
> >>> >> > <br>has replacement parts in stoc=
k, then all<br>&gt; that's
> >>> >> > needed is
> >>> >> > <br>a little transplant surgery.&=
amp;lt;br>&gt; <br>&gt;
> >>> >> > --Robert<br>
> >>> >> > <br>
> >>> >> >
-- Regards, Ev= an M. Inker
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