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| DATE | 2013-06-11 |
| FROM | From: "Paul Robert Marino"
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:43:04 -0400
From: "Paul Robert Marino"
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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] hardware repair
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Oh wait the guy who purposely broke his own mail client, preventing it from=
being compliant with an RFC which is more than a decade old is saying my m=
ail client is broken. That's a good one. Is it missing a feature I would li=
ke, sure it is but there is nothing wrong with what its doing. HTML and has=
nothing to do with microsoft at all, in fact Microsoft had nothing to do w=
ith its creation or proliferation primarily you can thank CompuServe , AOL,=
and Netscape for that along with many others. The reason I mentioned Y2K i=
s I was making a joke about the fact that I haven't seen a mail client whic=
h didn't support HTML as the body of an email since the 90s. Oh by the way =
I am NOT brain washed you see I base my opinions on technical matters on th=
ese things called RFC's you might want to try reading one some time. I don'=
t base my opinions on the rants of some one who by his own admission broke =
his own mail client so it doesn't support a standard he doesn't like. Furth=
er more crayons are fun and when used appropriately can be very useful, so =
I say Hells Ya bring on the crayola!
ude, Verdana, san-serif;">
=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sen=
t from my HP Pre3
elude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
On Jun =
10, 2013 11:54 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
span>On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 06:45:24PM -0400, einker wrote:=0D
> I'm=
getting' misty over all this Flame War behavior ... Almost makes me=0D
=
> miss Jay=0D
> I say almost=0D
> =0D
=0D
=0D
No fl=
ame war. Paul just has a broken mailer on his pre phone and thinks=0D
t=
hat is just OK.=0D
=0D
His mailer has trouble with the ABCs and needs=
crayola colors to decorate=0D
his text. It is still broken. Paul has =
been brainwashed to think it is=0D
ok to email msdoc files and whatever =
instead of text. There is no=0D
winning this. I kindly asked him to se=
nd text so i can read it and so=0D
that the mailing list can be properly=
indexed and searched.=0D
=0D
If he doesn't want to, I'll ask again. =
I might even automate it=0D
eventually. I assumed he was doing this on=
accident. It never occured=0D
to me that our Paul, our beloved Paul R=
obert Marino, would think that=0D
y2k compliance has to do with sending =
web documents through email, and=0D
other redicules crap that makes it h=
ard to read and to work with.=0D
=0D
Paul also thinks that I'm intere=
sted in getting into a long debate on=0D
mutts facilities and the multip=
le problems with reading regurgitated=0D
crap from, BTW nonstandard, thm=
l, and msdoc files.=0D
=0D
But Paul is wrong. I asume paul is alread=
y aware of all these problems,=0D
but he is just too lazy to turn off th=
e formater sending thingie he has.=0D
=0D
Regardless.=0D
=0D
Ri=
ght now I two kinds of users who email in gibberish formats: 1) Spammers,=
=0D
and 2) Paul.=0D
=0D
One way or the other, soon there will be o=
nly one of the two, and=0D
unfortunately, my money is on the spammers :(=
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
> =0D
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at=
6:39 PM, Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com>wrote:=0D
> =
=0D
> > Ah ha so you admit it you're just being difficult for the =
sake of being=0D
> > difficult. You purposely disabled the support=
for HTML messages in mutt.=0D
> > Well that's your own fault not =
mine! Just for that I will make all my=0D
> > messages on hang out=
HTML as a protest till you accept the fact that its=0D
> > not th=
e 80s any more and you're just going to have to deal with it.=0D
> &g=
t;=0D
> > By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of=
this good old=0D
> > fashion flame war goodness.=0D
> >=
=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> > -- Sent from my HP Pre3=0D=
> >=0D
> > ------------------------------=0D
> >=
; On Jun 10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:=0D=
> >=0D
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Pau=
l Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> > > Oh wait mutt does support HTML =
body in emails via lynx or your choice=0D
> > > of other consol=
e based browsers you just don't have it configured!=0D
> > >=0D=
> > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75=0D
&=
gt; >=0D
> >=0D
> > Don't be so naive Robert. I disabl=
ed it a long time ago=0D
> >=0D
> > >=0D
> > =
>=0D
> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Mar=
ino=0D
> > > <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> wrote:=0D
> >=
> > Rubin=0D
> > > > huh?=0D
> > > > w=
ho cares if the content is "plain text" as long as it renders that=0D
&g=
t; > > > way on the console.=0D
> > > > lynx is a c=
onsole web browser no X11 required, and it works well over=0D
> > =
> > ssh so I don't get your point.=0D
> > > > lynx is =
not a new piece software its been around for a long time as a=0D
> &g=
t; > > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 1992=
, so=0D
> > > > none of this is new or even a radical concep=
t.=0D
> > > >=0D
> > > >=0D
> > >=
>=0D
> > > >=0D
> > > >=0D
> > &=
gt; > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.co=
m>=0D
> > wrote:=0D
> > > >> On Sun, Jun 09, =
2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.c=
om>=0D
> > wrote:=0D
> > > >>> > On Sun=
, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino=0D
> > wrot=
e:=0D
> > > >>> >> Rubin=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K pl=
ease...=0D
> > :-)=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
&g=
t; > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>> > the l=
ast mutt release was 2010. It works fine. You can read=0D
> > ever=
ything=0D
> > > >>> > I send you.=0D
> > &=
gt; >>>=0D
> > > >>> Really then why cant it =
do some thing smart like recognize the mime=0D
> > > >>&g=
t; encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C libraries for=0Dr>> > > >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correc=
tly?=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>=0D
=
> > > >>=0D
> > > >> because then it would=
n't be plain text.=0D
> > > >>=0D
> > > >&=
gt;=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> >=
;=0D
> > > >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of u=
nformated binary data as email.=0D
> > > >>> > I'm =
not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want your=0D
> &=
gt; email=0D
> > > >>> > read, it needs to be plain=
text, and why in your right mind would=0D
> > you=0D
> >=
> >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that my mu=
tt email reader=0D
> > > >>> > which I SSH to a ter=
minal from, has problems. Your sending=0D
> > unproperly=0D
>=
; > > >>> > formated emails.=0D
> > > >>=
;>=0D
> > > >>> HTML=3D! Binary=0D
> > >=
; >>>=0D
> > > >>> HTML =3D~ Well Formatted=
=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> Don't =
blame others or HTML because your email client of choice is=0D
> >=
one=0D
> > > >>> of the few relic still in use in the=
world that isnt RFC compliant=0D
> > > >>> http://too=
ls.ietf.org/html/rfc2045=0D
> > > >>> "=0D
> >=
; > >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions=0D
> > &=
gt; >>> (MIME) Part One:=0D
> > > >>> Format =
of Internet Message Bodies=0D
> > > >>> "=0D
> &=
gt; > >>>=0D
> > > >>> The oldest version =
of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you=0D
> > the=0D
&=
gt; > > >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the sta=
ndard since 1997=0D
> > have=0D
> > > >>> bee=
n the addition of internationalization headers in 2008 and a=0D
> >=
; > >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.=
=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>>=0D
=
> > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>> > It =
does hell to the database as well.=0D
> > > >>>=0D
=
> > > >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.=0D>> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
&=
gt; > > >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filter=
s.=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>>=
=0D
> > > >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filte=
r can be defeated by HTML in=0D
> > > >>> this day and=
age its got some serious problems.=0D
> > > >>>=0D>> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
&=
gt; > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>> >=0Dr>> > > >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mai=
l client can read them so why=0D
> > can't=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> yours.=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D>> > > >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as thou=
gh I'm GPG encrypting my=0D
> > emails which=0D
> > > =
>>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.=
=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >>&g=
t; >>=0D
> > > >>> >> further more Rubin w=
hy are you trying to hack an HP Touch Pad.=0D
> > > >>>=
; >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the=0D=
> > video card=0D
> > > >>> >> needs p=
roprietary drivers.=0D
> > > >>> >> I looked in =
to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones I=0D
> > wanted to =
be=0D
> > > >>> >> able to updated the OS and ap=
ps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.=0D
> > > >>> >=
>=0D
> > > >>> >> There are some updates in t=
he community app store but since the=0D
> > platform is=0D
>=
> > >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't wor=
k on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.=0D
> > Some apps=0D
> > > >&=
gt;> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but not many.=0D
=
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >>> >=
>=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >&g=
t;> >>=0D
> > > >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2=
013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>=0D
> > wrot=
e:=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >>=
> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Ma=
rino=0D
> > wrote:=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > > >&=
gt;> >> >=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D>> > > >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on yo=
ur hand held thingie?=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D>> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > > >>>=
; >> > http://www.mutt.org/=0D
> > > >>> >=
> >=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > &=
gt; >>> >> >=0D
> > > >>> >> &=
gt;=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> > > Rubin<br> get an email client =
which has been updated=0D
> > since Y2K=0D
> > > >&=
gt;> >> > please... :-) <br>Seriously Netscape c=
ommunicators mail=0D
> > client can=0D
> > > >>&=
gt; >> > read them so why can't yours. <br><br&g=
t;Its mime encoded=0D
> > HTML its=0D
> > > >>&g=
t; >> > not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which=
oddly I=0D
> > have seen=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > people do on mailing lists before.<br><br><span=0Dr>> > style=3D"font-family:Prelude,=0D
> > > >>>=
>> > Verdana, san-serif;"><br><br></span><=
;span id=3D"signature"><div=0D
> > > >>> >>=
; > style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color:=0Dr>> > #999999;">--=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
Sent from my HP Pre3</div><br></span><span style=3D"c=
olor:navy;=0D
> > > >>> >> > font-family:Prel=
ude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr align=3D"left"=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> > style=3D"width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Rub=
en Safir &=0D
> > > >>> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-=
panix.com> wrote: <br><br></span>On Sun, Jun=0D>> > 09, 2013 at=0D
> > > >>> >> > 10:0=
8:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> > > >>> &=
gt;> > <br>> By the way Rubin why are you trying to hack=
an HP=0D
> > Touch=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
; Pad.<br>You=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
<br>can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the=0D
=
> > video=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>c=
ard needs proprietary=0D
> > > >>> >> > <b=
r>=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=0D
>=
> > >>> >> > <br>I really can not read this.=
:(=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=0D
> &=
gt; > >>> >> > <br>=0D
> > > >>=
;> >> > <br>=0D
> > > >>> >> &=
gt; <br>=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>dr=
ivers.<br>I looked in to it a while ago=0D
> > > =
>>> >> > <br>and while I love Palm phones I wanted =
to be able to updated=0D
> > the OS=0D
> > > >>&=
gt; >> > <br>and apps on my Pre 3 and found I=0D
> >=
; couldn't.<br><br>There=0D
> > > &=
gt;>> >> > are some=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > <br>updates in the community app store but since the platform=
=0D
> > is mostly=0D
> > > >>> >> > =
<br>dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.=0D
&=
gt; > Some apps=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br&g=
t;are being developed on open webOS 1.x but not=0D
> > many.&l=
t;br><span=0D
> > > >>> >> > &l=
t;br>style=3D"font-family:Prelude, Verdana,=0D
> > > >>=
;> >> > san-serif;"><br><br>=
</span><span=0D
> > > >>> >>=
; > <br>id=3D"signature"><div style=3D"font-family: =
arial,=0D
> > sans-serif;=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > font-size:=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br&g=
t;12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP=0D
> > > >=
>> >> > Pre3</div><br></s=
pan><span=0D
> > > >>> >> > <=
;br>style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;=0D
=
> > "><hr=0D
> > > >>> >> &g=
t; <br>align=3D"left" style=3D"width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 =
AM,=0D
> > Ruben Safir=0D
> > > >>> >> =
> <br>&lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt; wrote:=0D
>=
> > >>> >> > <br><br>&=
amp;lt;/span>On Sun, Jun 09,=0D
> > > >>> >&=
gt; > <br>2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes=0D
> > w=
rote:<br>&gt; On Jun=0D
> > > >>>=
; >> > 9,=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br&g=
t;2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir" &lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt;=
=0D
> >=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=
wrote:<br><br><br>On this mailing=
list is=0D
> > one of the=0D
> > > >>> >&=
gt; > great hardware=0D
> > > >>> >> > <=
;br>people in the tristate<br>area and he is just=0D
&g=
t; > like.... listening=0D
> > > >>> >> > =
<br>without ever typing=0D
> > :)<br><b=
r><br>&gt;=0D
> > > >>> &=
gt;> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<=
;br>&gt;=0D
> > > >>> >> > <=
;br>&gt; It is on a card<br>&gt;=0D
>=
; > &gt;<br>&gt;=0D
> > > >=
>> >> > &gt;<br>&gt;=0D
>=
; > > >>> >> > <br>=0D
> > > >=
>> >> >=0D
> > http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installi=
ng+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>&gt<h=
ttp://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/=
1<br>>>=0D
> > > >>> >> > ;=0D=
> > > >>> >> > <br>&gt;<=
;br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;=0D
&g=
t; > > >>> >> > <br>&gt; That=
'll make replacing the card=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
<br>easy, then.<br>&gt; <br>&=
;amp;gt; Now if you=0D
> > can find=0D
> > > >>&=
gt; >> > somewhere that=0D
> > > >>> >>=
> <br>has replacement parts in stock, then all<br>&=
amp;amp;gt;=0D
> > that's=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > needed is=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=
;a little transplant surgery.<br>&gt;=0D
> >=
<br>&gt;=0D
> > > >>> >> =
> --Robert<br>=0D
> > > >>> >> =
> <br>=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> =
>=0D
> =0D
> =0D
> =0D
> -- =0D
> Regards,=
=0D
> =0D
> Evan M. Inker=0D
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Oh wait the guy who purposely broke his own mail client, preventing it from=
being compliant with an RFC which is more than a decade old is saying my m=
ail client is broken. That's a good one. Is it missing a feature I would li=
ke, sure it is but there is nothing wrong with what its doing. HTML and has=
nothing to do with microsoft at all, in fact Microsoft had nothing to do w=
ith its creation or proliferation primarily you can thank CompuServe , AOL,=
and Netscape for that along with many others. The reason I mentioned Y2K i=
s I was making a joke about the fact that I haven't seen a mail client whic=
h didn't support HTML as the body of an email since the 90s. Oh by the way =
I am NOT brain washed you see I base my opinions on technical matters on th=
ese things called RFC's you might want to try reading one some time. I don'=
t base my opinions on the rants of some one who by his own admission broke =
his own mail client so it doesn't support a standard he doesn't like. Furth=
er more crayons are fun and when used appropriately can be very useful, so =
I say Hells Ya bring on the crayola!
ude, Verdana, san-serif;">
=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sen=
t from my HP Pre3
elude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
On Jun =
10, 2013 11:54 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:
span>On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 06:45:24PM -0400, einker wrote:=0D
> I'm=
getting' misty over all this Flame War behavior ... Almost makes me=0D
=
> miss Jay=0D
> I say almost=0D
> =0D
=0D
=0D
No fl=
ame war. Paul just has a broken mailer on his pre phone and thinks=0D
t=
hat is just OK.=0D
=0D
His mailer has trouble with the ABCs and needs=
crayola colors to decorate=0D
his text. It is still broken. Paul has =
been brainwashed to think it is=0D
ok to email msdoc files and whatever =
instead of text. There is no=0D
winning this. I kindly asked him to se=
nd text so i can read it and so=0D
that the mailing list can be properly=
indexed and searched.=0D
=0D
If he doesn't want to, I'll ask again. =
I might even automate it=0D
eventually. I assumed he was doing this on=
accident. It never occured=0D
to me that our Paul, our beloved Paul R=
obert Marino, would think that=0D
y2k compliance has to do with sending =
web documents through email, and=0D
other redicules crap that makes it h=
ard to read and to work with.=0D
=0D
Paul also thinks that I'm intere=
sted in getting into a long debate on=0D
mutts facilities and the multip=
le problems with reading regurgitated=0D
crap from, BTW nonstandard, thm=
l, and msdoc files.=0D
=0D
But Paul is wrong. I asume paul is alread=
y aware of all these problems,=0D
but he is just too lazy to turn off th=
e formater sending thingie he has.=0D
=0D
Regardless.=0D
=0D
Ri=
ght now I two kinds of users who email in gibberish formats: 1) Spammers,=
=0D
and 2) Paul.=0D
=0D
One way or the other, soon there will be o=
nly one of the two, and=0D
unfortunately, my money is on the spammers :(=
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
=0D
> =0D
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at=
6:39 PM, Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com>wrote:=0D
> =
=0D
> > Ah ha so you admit it you're just being difficult for the =
sake of being=0D
> > difficult. You purposely disabled the support=
for HTML messages in mutt.=0D
> > Well that's your own fault not =
mine! Just for that I will make all my=0D
> > messages on hang out=
HTML as a protest till you accept the fact that its=0D
> > not th=
e 80s any more and you're just going to have to deal with it.=0D
> &g=
t;=0D
> > By the way is everyone at least getting a chuckle out of=
this good old=0D
> > fashion flame war goodness.=0D
> >=
=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> > -- Sent from my HP Pre3=0D=
> >=0D
> > ------------------------------=0D
> >=
; On Jun 10, 2013 6:07 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> wrote:=0D=
> >=0D
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:30:06PM -0400, Pau=
l Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> > > Oh wait mutt does support HTML =
body in emails via lynx or your choice=0D
> > > of other consol=
e based browsers you just don't have it configured!=0D
> > >=0D=
> > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/75=0D
&=
gt; >=0D
> >=0D
> > Don't be so naive Robert. I disabl=
ed it a long time ago=0D
> >=0D
> > >=0D
> > =
>=0D
> > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Paul Robert Mar=
ino=0D
> > > <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> wrote:=0D
> >=
> > Rubin=0D
> > > > huh?=0D
> > > > w=
ho cares if the content is "plain text" as long as it renders that=0D
&g=
t; > > > way on the console.=0D
> > > > lynx is a c=
onsole web browser no X11 required, and it works well over=0D
> > =
> > ssh so I don't get your point.=0D
> > > > lynx is =
not a new piece software its been around for a long time as a=0D
> &g=
t; > > matter of fact the changelog for version 2.3 goes back to 1992=
, so=0D
> > > > none of this is new or even a radical concep=
t.=0D
> > > >=0D
> > > >=0D
> > >=
>=0D
> > > >=0D
> > > >=0D
> > &=
gt; > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.co=
m>=0D
> > wrote:=0D
> > > >> On Sun, Jun 09, =
2013 at 05:13:48PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.c=
om>=0D
> > wrote:=0D
> > > >>> > On Sun=
, Jun 09, 2013 at 03:03:46PM -0400, Paul Robert Marino=0D
> > wrot=
e:=0D
> > > >>> >> Rubin=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> get an email client which has been updated since Y2K pl=
ease...=0D
> > :-)=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
&g=
t; > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>> > the l=
ast mutt release was 2010. It works fine. You can read=0D
> > ever=
ything=0D
> > > >>> > I send you.=0D
> > &=
gt; >>>=0D
> > > >>> Really then why cant it =
do some thing smart like recognize the mime=0D
> > > >>&g=
t; encoding and use lynx or any one of the hundreds of C libraries for=0Dr>> > > >>> HTML/XML to format it in your terminal correc=
tly?=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>=0D
=
> > > >>=0D
> > > >> because then it would=
n't be plain text.=0D
> > > >>=0D
> > > >&=
gt;=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> >=
;=0D
> > > >>> > Y2K is no reason to get globs of u=
nformated binary data as email.=0D
> > > >>> > I'm =
not trying to discorage you from posting, but it you want your=0D
> &=
gt; email=0D
> > > >>> > read, it needs to be plain=
text, and why in your right mind would=0D
> > you=0D
> >=
> >>> > chose to send anything else. This is not that my mu=
tt email reader=0D
> > > >>> > which I SSH to a ter=
minal from, has problems. Your sending=0D
> > unproperly=0D
>=
; > > >>> > formated emails.=0D
> > > >>=
;>=0D
> > > >>> HTML=3D! Binary=0D
> > >=
; >>>=0D
> > > >>> HTML =3D~ Well Formatted=
=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> Don't =
blame others or HTML because your email client of choice is=0D
> >=
one=0D
> > > >>> of the few relic still in use in the=
world that isnt RFC compliant=0D
> > > >>> http://too=
ls.ietf.org/html/rfc2045=0D
> > > >>> "=0D
> >=
; > >>> Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions=0D
> > &=
gt; >>> (MIME) Part One:=0D
> > > >>> Format =
of Internet Message Bodies=0D
> > > >>> "=0D
> &=
gt; > >>>=0D
> > > >>> The oldest version =
of the standard is from 1993 the one i sent you=0D
> > the=0D
&=
gt; > > >>> link to is from 1996 the only updates to the sta=
ndard since 1997=0D
> > have=0D
> > > >>> bee=
n the addition of internationalization headers in 2008 and a=0D
> >=
; > >>> revision to the internationalization headers in 2012.=
=0D
> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>>=0D
=
> > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>> > It =
does hell to the database as well.=0D
> > > >>>=0D
=
> > > >>> Use one of the standard escaping methods.=0D>> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
&=
gt; > > >>> > It also dickers around with the spam filter=
s.=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>>=
=0D
> > > >>> Which one are you using? If a spam filte=
r can be defeated by HTML in=0D
> > > >>> this day and=
age its got some serious problems.=0D
> > > >>>=0D>> > > >>>=0D
> > > >>> >=0D
&=
gt; > > >>> >=0D
> > > >>> >=0Dr>> > > >>> >> Seriously Netscape communicators mai=
l client can read them so why=0D
> > can't=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> yours.=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D>> > > >>> >> Its mime encoded HTML its not as thou=
gh I'm GPG encrypting my=0D
> > emails which=0D
> > > =
>>> >> oddly I have seen people do on mailing lists before.=
=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >>&g=
t; >>=0D
> > > >>> >> further more Rubin w=
hy are you trying to hack an HP Touch Pad.=0D
> > > >>>=
; >> You can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the=0D=
> > video card=0D
> > > >>> >> needs p=
roprietary drivers.=0D
> > > >>> >> I looked in =
to it a while ago and while I love Palm phones I=0D
> > wanted to =
be=0D
> > > >>> >> able to updated the OS and ap=
ps on my Pre 3 and found I couldn't.=0D
> > > >>> >=
>=0D
> > > >>> >> There are some updates in t=
he community app store but since the=0D
> > platform is=0D
>=
> > >>> >> mostly dead most of the new ones won't wor=
k on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.=0D
> > Some apps=0D
> > > >&=
gt;> >> are being developed on Open webOS 1.x but not many.=0D
=
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >>> >=
>=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >&g=
t;> >>=0D
> > > >>> >> On Sun, Jun 9, 2=
013 at 2:55 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com>=0D
> > wrot=
e:=0D
> > > >>> >>=0D
> > > >>=
> >> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Paul Robert Ma=
rino=0D
> > wrote:=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > > >&=
gt;> >> >=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D>> > > >>> >> > Maybe you can install this on yo=
ur hand held thingie?=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D>> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > > >>>=
; >> > http://www.mutt.org/=0D
> > > >>> >=
> >=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > &=
gt; >>> >> >=0D
> > > >>> >> &=
gt;=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> > > Rubin<br> get an email client =
which has been updated=0D
> > since Y2K=0D
> > > >&=
gt;> >> > please... :-) <br>Seriously Netscape c=
ommunicators mail=0D
> > client can=0D
> > > >>&=
gt; >> > read them so why can't yours. <br><br&g=
t;Its mime encoded=0D
> > HTML its=0D
> > > >>&g=
t; >> > not as though I'm GPG encrypting my emails which=
oddly I=0D
> > have seen=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > people do on mailing lists before.<br><br><span=0Dr>> > style=3D"font-family:Prelude,=0D
> > > >>>=
>> > Verdana, san-serif;"><br><br></span><=
;span id=3D"signature"><div=0D
> > > >>> >>=
; > style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;color:=0Dr>> > #999999;">--=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
Sent from my HP Pre3</div><br></span><span style=3D"c=
olor:navy;=0D
> > > >>> >> > font-family:Prel=
ude, Verdana, san-serif; "><hr align=3D"left"=0D
> > > &g=
t;>> >> > style=3D"width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:14 PM, Rub=
en Safir &=0D
> > > >>> >> > lt;mrbrklyn-at-=
panix.com> wrote: <br><br></span>On Sun, Jun=0D>> > 09, 2013 at=0D
> > > >>> >> > 10:0=
8:32AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:=0D
> > > >>> &=
gt;> > <br>> By the way Rubin why are you trying to hack=
an HP=0D
> > Touch=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
; Pad.<br>You=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
<br>can't put GNU/Linux on it or open webOS/Linux because the=0D
=
> > video=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>c=
ard needs proprietary=0D
> > > >>> >> > <b=
r>=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=0D
>=
> > >>> >> > <br>I really can not read this.=
:(=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=0D
> &=
gt; > >>> >> > <br>=0D
> > > >>=
;> >> > <br>=0D
> > > >>> >> &=
gt; <br>=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>dr=
ivers.<br>I looked in to it a while ago=0D
> > > =
>>> >> > <br>and while I love Palm phones I wanted =
to be able to updated=0D
> > the OS=0D
> > > >>&=
gt; >> > <br>and apps on my Pre 3 and found I=0D
> >=
; couldn't.<br><br>There=0D
> > > &=
gt;>> >> > are some=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > <br>updates in the community app store but since the platform=
=0D
> > is mostly=0D
> > > >>> >> > =
<br>dead most of the new ones won't work on webOS 2.0 or 3.0.=0D
&=
gt; > Some apps=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br&g=
t;are being developed on open webOS 1.x but not=0D
> > many.&l=
t;br><span=0D
> > > >>> >> > &l=
t;br>style=3D"font-family:Prelude, Verdana,=0D
> > > >>=
;> >> > san-serif;"><br><br>=
</span><span=0D
> > > >>> >>=
; > <br>id=3D"signature"><div style=3D"font-family: =
arial,=0D
> > sans-serif;=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > font-size:=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br&g=
t;12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP=0D
> > > >=
>> >> > Pre3</div><br></s=
pan><span=0D
> > > >>> >> > <=
;br>style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;=0D
=
> > "><hr=0D
> > > >>> >> &g=
t; <br>align=3D"left" style=3D"width:75%">On Jun 9, 2013 2:12 =
AM,=0D
> > Ruben Safir=0D
> > > >>> >> =
> <br>&lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt; wrote:=0D
>=
> > >>> >> > <br><br>&=
amp;lt;/span>On Sun, Jun 09,=0D
> > > >>> >&=
gt; > <br>2013 at 12:56:42AM -0400, Robert Menes=0D
> > w=
rote:<br>&gt; On Jun=0D
> > > >>>=
; >> > 9,=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br&g=
t;2013 12:02 AM, "Ruben Safir" &lt;mrbrklyn-at-panix.com&gt;=
=0D
> >=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=
wrote:<br><br><br>On this mailing=
list is=0D
> > one of the=0D
> > > >>> >&=
gt; > great hardware=0D
> > > >>> >> > <=
;br>people in the tristate<br>area and he is just=0D
&g=
t; > like.... listening=0D
> > > >>> >> > =
<br>without ever typing=0D
> > :)<br><b=
r><br>&gt;=0D
> > > >>> &=
gt;> > &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<=
;br>&gt;=0D
> > > >>> >> > <=
;br>&gt; It is on a card<br>&gt;=0D
>=
; > &gt;<br>&gt;=0D
> > > >=
>> >> > &gt;<br>&gt;=0D
>=
; > > >>> >> > <br>=0D
> > > >=
>> >> >=0D
> > http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installi=
ng+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/1<br>&gt<h=
ttp://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+HP+TouchPad+USB+Connector+Board/6077/=
1<br>>>=0D
> > > >>> >> > ;=0D=
> > > >>> >> > <br>&gt;<=
;br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;=0D
&g=
t; > > >>> >> > <br>&gt; That=
'll make replacing the card=0D
> > > >>> >> >=
<br>easy, then.<br>&gt; <br>&=
;amp;gt; Now if you=0D
> > can find=0D
> > > >>&=
gt; >> > somewhere that=0D
> > > >>> >>=
> <br>has replacement parts in stock, then all<br>&=
amp;amp;gt;=0D
> > that's=0D
> > > >>> >&g=
t; > needed is=0D
> > > >>> >> > <br>=
;a little transplant surgery.<br>&gt;=0D
> >=
<br>&gt;=0D
> > > >>> >> =
> --Robert<br>=0D
> > > >>> >> =
> <br>=0D
> > > >>> >> >=0D
> =
>=0D
> =0D
> =0D
> =0D
> -- =0D
> Regards,=
=0D
> =0D
> Evan M. Inker=0D
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