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Dear Ruben Safir,

As countries around the world are beginning their long and slow
recovery from the coronavirus, schools and universities may have to
continue their struggle to give their students a quality education
while using remote communication services until the [end of the
year][0]. With the need to continue classes and exams, school
administrators have ended up relying on proprietary conference tools
like [Zoom][1] to stay connected, and are unfortunately turning to
contracting proctoring businesses with names like [ProctorU][2],
[Proctorio][3], and [Examity][4] to monitor testing and exams.

[0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-schools-reopen.html
[1]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-software-tools-for-staying-in-touch
[2]: https://www.educationdive.com/news/colleges-flock-to-online-proctors-but-equity-concerns-remain/575642/
[3]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/04/24/no-lockdown-exams-sorry-kids-this-creepy-webcam-tech-lets-you-sit-them-at-home/#3a2a6e945cc5
[4]: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/29/21232777/examity-remote-test-proctoring-online-class-education

The [increased use][5] of proprietary test-administering software is a
dangerous development, both because of the software's proprietary
nature, and because of its inherent purpose of exposing a student's,
or in some cases a family's, data to the proctor. In schemes like
these, the user ends up sacrificing both personal information and
biometric data. Because the software is proprietary, there's no
possibility of understanding how it works -- besides leaking personal
data, it could also create security concerns or deliver bad quality
tests (and results). Requiring students to cede control over their
entire computer to a test proctoring company is fundamentally
unjust. Worse, we cannot be sure that any of these nonfree software
dependencies and their accompanying surveillance techniques will be
rolled back after social distancing guidelines are no longer enforced.

[5]: https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/news/2020/04/01/birmingham-tech-firm-sees-surge-in-hires-inbound.html

It is important that decisions made in the education sector are first
and foremost ethically motivated. Here at the Free Software Foundation
(FSF), we have started a free communications working
group. Initiatives include a [remote communication email list][6], as
well as a [collaborative resource page][7] for documenting and sharing
free communication tools to help spread awareness of the ethical
choices that *can* be made. We have also been assisting educational
professionals in offering their classes online using only free
software. And we have been reading many stories about activism in
education from the larger community, and want to share those with
you. They have inspired and motivated us. We need more people like
this around the world to be vocal and critical about infringements on
user freedom in the area of remote learning.

[6]: https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/remotecommunication
[7]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication

## Students revolt against online proctoring

As educational institutions are scrambling to offer remote learning,
online proctoring companies will likely be used well into the
fall. These businesses require students to identify themselves with
valid ID, and then give consent to access their browser history. Of
course, the "consent" is hardly meaningful, since the student is not
given the option to take their test without monitoring, so this means
that they either submit to monitoring or flunk their exam.

The students are made to give a tour of their bedroom, desk, and
anything the proctor demands, in order to establish a "cheat-safe"
environment. The students are also forced to waive their rights so the
company can record their webcams and microphones, the student's
keystrokes, screen, mouse movements, and even facial expressions.

Students are also forced to consent to the organization's right to
retain much of what they gather from students’ computers and
bedrooms. *The Daily Mail* reports that "Examity's fine print notes
that students handed over their data 'at their own risk' because ['no
data protection procedures are entirely infallible.'"][8] Reports have
centered around [added stress for the students][9] and [inequality
issues][10], as well as (naturally) [privacy concerns][11]. [Cory
Doctorow][12] highlighted the issue that the software, by design,
allows the organization to hijack the student's hardware, leaving it
outside their control, even after the exam is finished, or when the
user wants it to stop.

[8]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8243637/Creepy-software-used-stop-university-students-cheating-online-exams-amid-coronavirus.html
[9]: https://dailycampus.com/stories/2020/4/17/students-worried-about-online-exams-with-webcam-monitoring
[10]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/03/16/schools-internet-inequality-coronavirus/?tid=lk_interstitial_manual_65&itid=lk_interstitial_manual_65
[11]: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/20/concerns-raised-australian-universities-plan-use-proctorio-proctoru-exam-monitoring-software
[12]: https://twtext.com/article/1252225044861693954

But students in Australia took matters into their own hands, forcing
institutions and global media to recognize the issue at hand. Thirteen
groups from the Australian National University (ANU) wrote an [open
letter][13] calling for the university to find an alternative approach
that is acceptable for all students. And once the ANU open letter
gained some traction in media, [other Australian student groups][14]
followed their lead. [*The Washington Post*][15] reports that a
faculty group in California also recognized that the privacy and
digital rights of their students could not be sacrificed for the
purpose of the "expediency of a take-home final exam." In the
Netherlands, students of the University of Tilburg started a [petition
against][16] the use of proctoring software, which is currently signed
almost 5,000 times.

[13]: https://www.woroni.com.au/news/anu-clubs-speak-out-against-online-invigilation-program-proctorio/
[14]: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/uq-students-raise-privacy-concerns-over-third-party-exam-platform-20200419-p54l77.html
[15]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/01/online-proctoring-college-exams-coronavirus/
[16]: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/04/big-brother-is-watching-you-take-an-exam-students-protest-at-online-surveillance/

## Free conferencing video implementations for classes

We have seen many reports on the dangers of using proprietary
conferencing tools like [Zoom][17] recently. Zoom has gotten enough
negative attention that [New York City banned Zoom usage][18] by
schools, sadly in favor of the equally dangerous nonfree [Microsoft
Teams][19]. Now, the recently launched [Facebook Messenger Rooms
service][20] is also receiving its fair share of criticism. But there
is hope yet, as some governments and institutions are expressing
concerns and are actively looking to preserve people's freedom.

[17]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/03/thousands-zoom-video-calls-left-exposed-open-web/
[18]: https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/05/zoom-new-york-city-schools/
[19]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/04/27/your-whole-companys-microsoft-teams-data-couldve-been-stolen-with-an-evil-gif/#5859599339fc
[20]: https://mashable.com/article/facebook-messenger-rooms-privacy-problems/

In Italy, [WeSchool][21], an organization dedicated to the
digitization of Italian schools, decided to opt for Jitsi over
proprietary tools like Zoom to help teachers bring their classes
online. We don't know the full extent of their commitment to freedom,
but their effort to provide a platform for teachers aiming to respect
the student's freedom, now that videoconferencing is such an
significant part of education, is laudable. Nearly two million
students connect, collaborate, and learn via video with the help of
this organization.

[21]: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200320005105/en/Teach-Home-WeSchool-Brings-Italys-Classrooms-Online

And in France, a [temporary platform][22] has been built by the French
government offering teachers and employees of the French Ministry of
National Education access to free software applications like [Etherpad][23],
[Nextcloud][24], and [Discourse][25], tools that were also on [our
recommendation list][26] for free software tools to help us get
through social distancing.

[22]: https://apps.education.fr/
[23]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Etherpad
[24]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Nextcloud
[25]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Discourse
[26]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-software-tools-for-staying-in-touch

In San Antonio de Benageber, near Valencia, Spain, one free software
advocate made a [major difference in his community][27]. Javier
Sepulveda was informed by his children's school that they intended to
continue teaching weekly lessons, using proprietary videoconferencing
software. Realizing this was not an isolated decision affecting only
his children, Javier [turned the school's choice][28] towards free
software instead.

[27]: https://www.valenciatech.com/caso-de-exito-jitsi/
[28]: https://www.socmusab.es/noticias/escuela-de-musica-clases-on-line-mas-justas-y-seguras/

After convincing the teachers, he set up a [Jitsi Meet][29] instance
on a virtual private server (VPS) with enough resources to be able to
offer this server to the school as well. He also continues to work
with the local English school, single-handedly mitigating a spread of
proprietary software in his community. Together with the local
[GNU/Linux group][30], he then proceeded to set up another server, so
they could [offer it publicly][31].

[29]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Jitsi-Meet
[30]: https://gnulinuxvalencia.org/ponemos-en-marcha-un-servidor-jitsi-de-libre-utilizacion/
[31]: https://www.valenciatech.com/jitsi-software-para-video-conferencia/

## Advocacy matters

It's logical to seek remote connections during this time, but let's
not forget that businesses are filling their pockets because of
decisions made in urgency. It is wrong to open up students' personal
information to proprietary software companies, and to require students
to use a specific company's proprietary products in order to get
credit. As Javier puts it: "We need to make decisions based on the
welfare of the children." It is young people's futures that are at
stake, and the above examples show that advocacy matters. Small
successes are what we need to make a difference, and to give others
the confidence to take a stand.

Now is not the time to accept just any decision because of the unique
positions we have been placed in. We should stand up, and continue to
fight for our rights and lay bare the issues and solutions for
organizations struggling to make the right decisions. You can support
such efforts by sharing your knowledge, giving feedback to
institutions that are making decisions (right or wrong),
[donating][32] to the FSF and other organizations fighting for
freedom, and speaking out publicly about your successes. If you have a
success story to share, you can share it on the [remote communication
email list][33], and we would be happy to help your story be heard.

[32]: https://my.fsf.org/donate
[33]: https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/remotecommunication

Kind regards,

Zoë Kooyman
Program Manager

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Dear Ruben Safir,



Students






As countries around the world are beginning their long and slow
recovery from the coronavirus, schools and universities may have to
continue their struggle to give their students a quality education
while using remote communication services until the end of the
year
. With the need to continue classes and exams, school
administrators have ended up relying on proprietary conference tools
like Zoom to stay connected, and are unfortunately turning to
contracting proctoring businesses with names like ProctorU,
Proctorio, and Examity to monitor testing and exams.



The increased use of proprietary test-administering software is a
dangerous development, both because of the software's proprietary
nature, and because of its inherent purpose of exposing a student's,
or in some cases a family's, data to the proctor. In schemes like
these, the user ends up sacrificing both personal information and
biometric data. Because the software is proprietary, there's no
possibility of understanding how it works -- besides leaking personal
data, it could also create security concerns or deliver bad quality
tests (and results). Requiring students to cede control over their
entire computer to a test proctoring company is fundamentally
unjust. Worse, we cannot be sure that any of these nonfree software
dependencies and their accompanying surveillance techniques will be
rolled back after social distancing guidelines are no longer enforced.



It is important that decisions made in the education sector are first
and foremost ethically motivated. Here at the Free Software Foundation
(FSF), we have started a free communications working
group. Initiatives include a remote communication email list, as
well as a collaborative resource page for documenting and sharing
free communication tools to help spread awareness of the ethical
choices that can be made. We have also been assisting educational
professionals in offering their classes online using only free
software. And we have been reading many stories about activism in
education from the larger community, and want to share those with
you. They have inspired and motivated us. We need more people like
this around the world to be vocal and critical about infringements on
user freedom in the area of remote learning.



Students revolt against online proctoring



As educational institutions are scrambling to offer remote learning,
online proctoring companies will likely be used well into the
fall. These businesses require students to identify themselves with
valid ID, and then give consent to access their browser history. Of
course, the "consent" is hardly meaningful, since the student is not
given the option to take their test without monitoring, so this means
that they either submit to monitoring or flunk their exam.



The students are made to give a tour of their bedroom, desk, and
anything the proctor demands, in order to establish a "cheat-safe"
environment. The students are also forced to waive their rights so the
company can record their webcams and microphones, the student's
keystrokes, screen, mouse movements, and even facial expressions.



Students are also forced to consent to the organization's right to
retain much of what they gather from students’ computers and
bedrooms. The Daily Mail reports that "Examity's fine print notes
that students handed over their data 'at their own risk' because 'no
data protection procedures are entirely infallible.'"
Reports have
centered around added stress for the students and inequality
issues
, as well as (naturally) privacy concerns. Cory
Doctorow
highlighted the issue that the software, by design,
allows the organization to hijack the student's hardware, leaving it
outside their control, even after the exam is finished, or when the
user wants it to stop.



But students in Australia took matters into their own hands, forcing
institutions and global media to recognize the issue at hand. Thirteen
groups from the Australian National University (ANU) wrote an open
letter
calling for the university to find an alternative approach
that is acceptable for all students. And once the ANU open letter
gained some traction in media, other Australian student groups
followed their lead. The Washington Post reports that a
faculty group in California also recognized that the privacy and
digital rights of their students could not be sacrificed for the
purpose of the "expediency of a take-home final exam." In the
Netherlands, students of the University of Tilburg started a petition
against
the use of proctoring software, which is currently signed
almost 5,000 times.



Free conferencing video implementations for classes



We have seen many reports on the dangers of using proprietary
conferencing tools like Zoom recently. Zoom has gotten enough
negative attention that New York City banned Zoom usage by
schools, sadly in favor of the equally dangerous nonfree Microsoft
Teams
. Now, the recently launched Facebook Messenger Rooms
service
is also receiving its fair share of criticism. But there
is hope yet, as some governments and institutions are expressing
concerns and are actively looking to preserve people's freedom.



In Italy, WeSchool, an organization dedicated to the
digitization of Italian schools, decided to opt for Jitsi over
proprietary tools like Zoom to help teachers bring their classes
online. We don't know the full extent of their commitment to freedom,
but their effort to provide a platform for teachers aiming to respect
the student's freedom, now that videoconferencing is such an
significant part of education, is laudable. Nearly two million
students connect, collaborate, and learn via video with the help of
this organization.



And in France, a temporary platform has been built by the French
government offering teachers and employees of the French Ministry of
National Education access to free software applications like Etherpad,
Nextcloud, and Discourse, tools that were also on our
recommendation list
for free software tools to help us get
through social distancing.



In San Antonio de Benageber, near Valencia, Spain, one free software
advocate made a major difference in his community. Javier
Sepulveda was informed by his children's school that they intended to
continue teaching weekly lessons, using proprietary videoconferencing
software. Realizing this was not an isolated decision affecting only
his children, Javier turned the school's choice towards free
software instead.



After convincing the teachers, he set up a Jitsi Meet instance
on a virtual private server (VPS) with enough resources to be able to
offer this server to the school as well. He also continues to work
with the local English school, single-handedly mitigating a spread of
proprietary software in his community. Together with the local
GNU/Linux group, he then proceeded to set up another server, so
they could offer it publicly.



Advocacy matters



It's logical to seek remote connections during this time, but let's
not forget that businesses are filling their pockets because of
decisions made in urgency. It is wrong to open up students' personal
information to proprietary software companies, and to require students
to use a specific company's proprietary products in order to get
credit. As Javier puts it: "We need to make decisions based on the
welfare of the children." It is young people's futures that are at
stake, and the above examples show that advocacy matters. Small
successes are what we need to make a difference, and to give others
the confidence to take a stand.



Now is not the time to accept just any decision because of the unique
positions we have been placed in. We should stand up, and continue to
fight for our rights and lay bare the issues and solutions for
organizations struggling to make the right decisions. You can support
such efforts by sharing your knowledge, giving feedback to
institutions that are making decisions (right or wrong),
donating to the FSF and other organizations fighting for
freedom, and speaking out publicly about your successes. If you have a
success story to share, you can share it on the remote communication
email list
, and we would be happy to help your story be heard.



Kind regards,



Zoë Kooyman

Program Manager



Illustration Copyright © 2020, Free Software Foundation, Inc., by Zoë
Kooyman, Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0
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Dear Ruben Safir,

As countries around the world are beginning their long and slow
recovery from the coronavirus, schools and universities may have to
continue their struggle to give their students a quality education
while using remote communication services until the [end of the
year][0]. With the need to continue classes and exams, school
administrators have ended up relying on proprietary conference tools
like [Zoom][1] to stay connected, and are unfortunately turning to
contracting proctoring businesses with names like [ProctorU][2],
[Proctorio][3], and [Examity][4] to monitor testing and exams.

[0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-schools-reopen.html
[1]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-software-tools-for-staying-in-touch
[2]: https://www.educationdive.com/news/colleges-flock-to-online-proctors-but-equity-concerns-remain/575642/
[3]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2020/04/24/no-lockdown-exams-sorry-kids-this-creepy-webcam-tech-lets-you-sit-them-at-home/#3a2a6e945cc5
[4]: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/29/21232777/examity-remote-test-proctoring-online-class-education

The [increased use][5] of proprietary test-administering software is a
dangerous development, both because of the software's proprietary
nature, and because of its inherent purpose of exposing a student's,
or in some cases a family's, data to the proctor. In schemes like
these, the user ends up sacrificing both personal information and
biometric data. Because the software is proprietary, there's no
possibility of understanding how it works -- besides leaking personal
data, it could also create security concerns or deliver bad quality
tests (and results). Requiring students to cede control over their
entire computer to a test proctoring company is fundamentally
unjust. Worse, we cannot be sure that any of these nonfree software
dependencies and their accompanying surveillance techniques will be
rolled back after social distancing guidelines are no longer enforced.

[5]: https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/news/2020/04/01/birmingham-tech-firm-sees-surge-in-hires-inbound.html

It is important that decisions made in the education sector are first
and foremost ethically motivated. Here at the Free Software Foundation
(FSF), we have started a free communications working
group. Initiatives include a [remote communication email list][6], as
well as a [collaborative resource page][7] for documenting and sharing
free communication tools to help spread awareness of the ethical
choices that *can* be made. We have also been assisting educational
professionals in offering their classes online using only free
software. And we have been reading many stories about activism in
education from the larger community, and want to share those with
you. They have inspired and motivated us. We need more people like
this around the world to be vocal and critical about infringements on
user freedom in the area of remote learning.

[6]: https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/remotecommunication
[7]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Remote_Communication

## Students revolt against online proctoring

As educational institutions are scrambling to offer remote learning,
online proctoring companies will likely be used well into the
fall. These businesses require students to identify themselves with
valid ID, and then give consent to access their browser history. Of
course, the "consent" is hardly meaningful, since the student is not
given the option to take their test without monitoring, so this means
that they either submit to monitoring or flunk their exam.

The students are made to give a tour of their bedroom, desk, and
anything the proctor demands, in order to establish a "cheat-safe"
environment. The students are also forced to waive their rights so the
company can record their webcams and microphones, the student's
keystrokes, screen, mouse movements, and even facial expressions.

Students are also forced to consent to the organization's right to
retain much of what they gather from students’ computers and
bedrooms. *The Daily Mail* reports that "Examity's fine print notes
that students handed over their data 'at their own risk' because ['no
data protection procedures are entirely infallible.'"][8] Reports have
centered around [added stress for the students][9] and [inequality
issues][10], as well as (naturally) [privacy concerns][11]. [Cory
Doctorow][12] highlighted the issue that the software, by design,
allows the organization to hijack the student's hardware, leaving it
outside their control, even after the exam is finished, or when the
user wants it to stop.

[8]: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8243637/Creepy-software-used-stop-university-students-cheating-online-exams-amid-coronavirus.html
[9]: https://dailycampus.com/stories/2020/4/17/students-worried-about-online-exams-with-webcam-monitoring
[10]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/03/16/schools-internet-inequality-coronavirus/?tid=lk_interstitial_manual_65&itid=lk_interstitial_manual_65
[11]: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/20/concerns-raised-australian-universities-plan-use-proctorio-proctoru-exam-monitoring-software
[12]: https://twtext.com/article/1252225044861693954

But students in Australia took matters into their own hands, forcing
institutions and global media to recognize the issue at hand. Thirteen
groups from the Australian National University (ANU) wrote an [open
letter][13] calling for the university to find an alternative approach
that is acceptable for all students. And once the ANU open letter
gained some traction in media, [other Australian student groups][14]
followed their lead. [*The Washington Post*][15] reports that a
faculty group in California also recognized that the privacy and
digital rights of their students could not be sacrificed for the
purpose of the "expediency of a take-home final exam." In the
Netherlands, students of the University of Tilburg started a [petition
against][16] the use of proctoring software, which is currently signed
almost 5,000 times.

[13]: https://www.woroni.com.au/news/anu-clubs-speak-out-against-online-invigilation-program-proctorio/
[14]: https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/uq-students-raise-privacy-concerns-over-third-party-exam-platform-20200419-p54l77.html
[15]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/01/online-proctoring-college-exams-coronavirus/
[16]: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/04/big-brother-is-watching-you-take-an-exam-students-protest-at-online-surveillance/

## Free conferencing video implementations for classes

We have seen many reports on the dangers of using proprietary
conferencing tools like [Zoom][17] recently. Zoom has gotten enough
negative attention that [New York City banned Zoom usage][18] by
schools, sadly in favor of the equally dangerous nonfree [Microsoft
Teams][19]. Now, the recently launched [Facebook Messenger Rooms
service][20] is also receiving its fair share of criticism. But there
is hope yet, as some governments and institutions are expressing
concerns and are actively looking to preserve people's freedom.

[17]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/03/thousands-zoom-video-calls-left-exposed-open-web/
[18]: https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/05/zoom-new-york-city-schools/
[19]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/04/27/your-whole-companys-microsoft-teams-data-couldve-been-stolen-with-an-evil-gif/#5859599339fc
[20]: https://mashable.com/article/facebook-messenger-rooms-privacy-problems/

In Italy, [WeSchool][21], an organization dedicated to the
digitization of Italian schools, decided to opt for Jitsi over
proprietary tools like Zoom to help teachers bring their classes
online. We don't know the full extent of their commitment to freedom,
but their effort to provide a platform for teachers aiming to respect
the student's freedom, now that videoconferencing is such an
significant part of education, is laudable. Nearly two million
students connect, collaborate, and learn via video with the help of
this organization.

[21]: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200320005105/en/Teach-Home-WeSchool-Brings-Italys-Classrooms-Online

And in France, a [temporary platform][22] has been built by the French
government offering teachers and employees of the French Ministry of
National Education access to free software applications like [Etherpad][23],
[Nextcloud][24], and [Discourse][25], tools that were also on [our
recommendation list][26] for free software tools to help us get
through social distancing.

[22]: https://apps.education.fr/
[23]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Etherpad
[24]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Nextcloud
[25]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Discourse
[26]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/better-than-zoom-try-these-free-software-tools-for-staying-in-touch

In San Antonio de Benageber, near Valencia, Spain, one free software
advocate made a [major difference in his community][27]. Javier
Sepulveda was informed by his children's school that they intended to
continue teaching weekly lessons, using proprietary videoconferencing
software. Realizing this was not an isolated decision affecting only
his children, Javier [turned the school's choice][28] towards free
software instead.

[27]: https://www.valenciatech.com/caso-de-exito-jitsi/
[28]: https://www.socmusab.es/noticias/escuela-de-musica-clases-on-line-mas-justas-y-seguras/

After convincing the teachers, he set up a [Jitsi Meet][29] instance
on a virtual private server (VPS) with enough resources to be able to
offer this server to the school as well. He also continues to work
with the local English school, single-handedly mitigating a spread of
proprietary software in his community. Together with the local
[GNU/Linux group][30], he then proceeded to set up another server, so
they could [offer it publicly][31].

[29]: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Jitsi-Meet
[30]: https://gnulinuxvalencia.org/ponemos-en-marcha-un-servidor-jitsi-de-libre-utilizacion/
[31]: https://www.valenciatech.com/jitsi-software-para-video-conferencia/

## Advocacy matters

It's logical to seek remote connections during this time, but let's
not forget that businesses are filling their pockets because of
decisions made in urgency. It is wrong to open up students' personal
information to proprietary software companies, and to require students
to use a specific company's proprietary products in order to get
credit. As Javier puts it: "We need to make decisions based on the
welfare of the children." It is young people's futures that are at
stake, and the above examples show that advocacy matters. Small
successes are what we need to make a difference, and to give others
the confidence to take a stand.

Now is not the time to accept just any decision because of the unique
positions we have been placed in. We should stand up, and continue to
fight for our rights and lay bare the issues and solutions for
organizations struggling to make the right decisions. You can support
such efforts by sharing your knowledge, giving feedback to
institutions that are making decisions (right or wrong),
[donating][32] to the FSF and other organizations fighting for
freedom, and speaking out publicly about your successes. If you have a
success story to share, you can share it on the [remote communication
email list][33], and we would be happy to help your story be heard.

[32]: https://my.fsf.org/donate
[33]: https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/remotecommunication

Kind regards,

Zoë Kooyman
Program Manager

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Dear Ruben Safir,



Students






As countries around the world are beginning their long and slow
recovery from the coronavirus, schools and universities may have to
continue their struggle to give their students a quality education
while using remote communication services until the end of the
year
. With the need to continue classes and exams, school
administrators have ended up relying on proprietary conference tools
like Zoom to stay connected, and are unfortunately turning to
contracting proctoring businesses with names like ProctorU,
Proctorio, and Examity to monitor testing and exams.



The increased use of proprietary test-administering software is a
dangerous development, both because of the software's proprietary
nature, and because of its inherent purpose of exposing a student's,
or in some cases a family's, data to the proctor. In schemes like
these, the user ends up sacrificing both personal information and
biometric data. Because the software is proprietary, there's no
possibility of understanding how it works -- besides leaking personal
data, it could also create security concerns or deliver bad quality
tests (and results). Requiring students to cede control over their
entire computer to a test proctoring company is fundamentally
unjust. Worse, we cannot be sure that any of these nonfree software
dependencies and their accompanying surveillance techniques will be
rolled back after social distancing guidelines are no longer enforced.



It is important that decisions made in the education sector are first
and foremost ethically motivated. Here at the Free Software Foundation
(FSF), we have started a free communications working
group. Initiatives include a remote communication email list, as
well as a collaborative resource page for documenting and sharing
free communication tools to help spread awareness of the ethical
choices that can be made. We have also been assisting educational
professionals in offering their classes online using only free
software. And we have been reading many stories about activism in
education from the larger community, and want to share those with
you. They have inspired and motivated us. We need more people like
this around the world to be vocal and critical about infringements on
user freedom in the area of remote learning.



Students revolt against online proctoring



As educational institutions are scrambling to offer remote learning,
online proctoring companies will likely be used well into the
fall. These businesses require students to identify themselves with
valid ID, and then give consent to access their browser history. Of
course, the "consent" is hardly meaningful, since the student is not
given the option to take their test without monitoring, so this means
that they either submit to monitoring or flunk their exam.



The students are made to give a tour of their bedroom, desk, and
anything the proctor demands, in order to establish a "cheat-safe"
environment. The students are also forced to waive their rights so the
company can record their webcams and microphones, the student's
keystrokes, screen, mouse movements, and even facial expressions.



Students are also forced to consent to the organization's right to
retain much of what they gather from students’ computers and
bedrooms. The Daily Mail reports that "Examity's fine print notes
that students handed over their data 'at their own risk' because 'no
data protection procedures are entirely infallible.'"
Reports have
centered around added stress for the students and inequality
issues
, as well as (naturally) privacy concerns. Cory
Doctorow
highlighted the issue that the software, by design,
allows the organization to hijack the student's hardware, leaving it
outside their control, even after the exam is finished, or when the
user wants it to stop.



But students in Australia took matters into their own hands, forcing
institutions and global media to recognize the issue at hand. Thirteen
groups from the Australian National University (ANU) wrote an open
letter
calling for the university to find an alternative approach
that is acceptable for all students. And once the ANU open letter
gained some traction in media, other Australian student groups
followed their lead. The Washington Post reports that a
faculty group in California also recognized that the privacy and
digital rights of their students could not be sacrificed for the
purpose of the "expediency of a take-home final exam." In the
Netherlands, students of the University of Tilburg started a petition
against
the use of proctoring software, which is currently signed
almost 5,000 times.



Free conferencing video implementations for classes



We have seen many reports on the dangers of using proprietary
conferencing tools like Zoom recently. Zoom has gotten enough
negative attention that New York City banned Zoom usage by
schools, sadly in favor of the equally dangerous nonfree Microsoft
Teams
. Now, the recently launched Facebook Messenger Rooms
service
is also receiving its fair share of criticism. But there
is hope yet, as some governments and institutions are expressing
concerns and are actively looking to preserve people's freedom.



In Italy, WeSchool, an organization dedicated to the
digitization of Italian schools, decided to opt for Jitsi over
proprietary tools like Zoom to help teachers bring their classes
online. We don't know the full extent of their commitment to freedom,
but their effort to provide a platform for teachers aiming to respect
the student's freedom, now that videoconferencing is such an
significant part of education, is laudable. Nearly two million
students connect, collaborate, and learn via video with the help of
this organization.



And in France, a temporary platform has been built by the French
government offering teachers and employees of the French Ministry of
National Education access to free software applications like Etherpad,
Nextcloud, and Discourse, tools that were also on our
recommendation list
for free software tools to help us get
through social distancing.



In San Antonio de Benageber, near Valencia, Spain, one free software
advocate made a major difference in his community. Javier
Sepulveda was informed by his children's school that they intended to
continue teaching weekly lessons, using proprietary videoconferencing
software. Realizing this was not an isolated decision affecting only
his children, Javier turned the school's choice towards free
software instead.



After convincing the teachers, he set up a Jitsi Meet instance
on a virtual private server (VPS) with enough resources to be able to
offer this server to the school as well. He also continues to work
with the local English school, single-handedly mitigating a spread of
proprietary software in his community. Together with the local
GNU/Linux group, he then proceeded to set up another server, so
they could offer it publicly.



Advocacy matters



It's logical to seek remote connections during this time, but let's
not forget that businesses are filling their pockets because of
decisions made in urgency. It is wrong to open up students' personal
information to proprietary software companies, and to require students
to use a specific company's proprietary products in order to get
credit. As Javier puts it: "We need to make decisions based on the
welfare of the children." It is young people's futures that are at
stake, and the above examples show that advocacy matters. Small
successes are what we need to make a difference, and to give others
the confidence to take a stand.



Now is not the time to accept just any decision because of the unique
positions we have been placed in. We should stand up, and continue to
fight for our rights and lay bare the issues and solutions for
organizations struggling to make the right decisions. You can support
such efforts by sharing your knowledge, giving feedback to
institutions that are making decisions (right or wrong),
donating to the FSF and other organizations fighting for
freedom, and speaking out publicly about your successes. If you have a
success story to share, you can share it on the remote communication
email list
, and we would be happy to help your story be heard.



Kind regards,



Zoë Kooyman

Program Manager



Illustration Copyright © 2020, Free Software Foundation, Inc., by Zoë
Kooyman, Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0
International license.






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  35. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sick of the radio - try live from Israel
  36. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Nursing Homes Atrocity
  37. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] X-OK diets
  38. 2020-05-04 George Moskowitz MD <yehudazev-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Can antibody tests tell if you're immune to
  39. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Can antibody tests tell if you're immune
  40. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Can antibody tests tell if you're immune
  41. 2020-05-04 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #458 - Are you CPAN module author?
  42. 2020-05-04 Carolinedliny <carolinedliny-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] (no subject)
  43. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Homeless are dieing on the subway
  44. 2020-05-04 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sick of the radio - try live from Israel
  45. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Testing results
  46. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] no hope from the homeless hell
  47. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Morphing the Flattening
  48. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The failure of common sense with the MTA -
  49. 2020-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the last great president
  50. 2020-05-04 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter Issue 145, May 2020
  51. 2020-05-04 derrick <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] (no subject)
  52. 2020-05-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Pulmonary Embolisms and thombosis and Wuhan-19
  53. 2020-05-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Most important news you didn't hear
  54. 2020-05-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  55. 2020-05-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Icecast down
  56. 2020-05-05 Karen Perilman <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  57. 2020-05-05 Keren Ahava <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  58. 2020-05-05 maya cohen <mayapharmacy-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Doctors report hydroxychloroquine has over 90%
  59. 2020-05-05 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: SDNY Judge Reinstates New York's Cancelled
  60. 2020-05-06 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  61. 2020-05-06 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] We Really Miss You at The Billie!
  62. 2020-05-06 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] health professional on evaluations
  63. 2020-05-06 George Moskowitz MD <yehudazev-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Excellent Overview. Fwd: Covid-19 Patients
  64. 2020-05-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  65. 2020-05-06 maya cohen <mayapharmacy-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Must watch
  66. 2020-05-06 Charlie Gonzalez <itcharlie-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual Tech May 2020 Meetup
  67. 2020-05-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYC Opsrey
  68. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cadiac Events and Wuhan-19
  69. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Genomice Sequencing for Epidemiology
  70. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] MDs and Economists
  71. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  72. 2020-05-07 Keren Ahava <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cadiac Events and Wuhan-19
  73. 2020-05-07 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Health Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3
  74. 2020-05-07 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Health Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3
  75. 2020-05-07 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] health professional on evaluations
  76. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] MDs and Economists
  77. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Excellent Overview. Fwd: Covid-19
  78. 2020-05-07 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] There is Still Time to Register for an Online
  79. 2020-05-07 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Bash prompt
  80. 2020-05-07 Christos Nouskas via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] 686 support?
  81. 2020-05-07 The Hebron Fund <info-at-hebronfund.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hebron is Always Mother's Day, ZOOM Backgounds,
  82. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  83. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] this largely sounds like some of out forums
  84. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How can one fight a epidemic with a collapsed
  85. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Monarch Butterflies
  86. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden Interview
  87. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] monarchs
  88. 2020-05-07 cl <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] sars-cov2 info
  89. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] check out this boy genius...
  90. 2020-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jon tennant and OpenScience
  91. 2020-05-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] For my sister who questioned if this is a power
  92. 2020-05-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Times dedicated to keeping very one shut
  93. 2020-05-08 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2020 audio now available online
  94. 2020-05-09 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] The problem with Valkyrie
  95. 2020-05-09 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] The problem with Valkyrie
  96. 2020-05-09 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  97. 2020-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This does not look like a man who is following
  98. 2020-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Employee surveillance because of COVID-19
  99. 2020-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Israel.pm] Perl on YouTube
  100. 2020-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Paying your con-ed bill now requires child
  101. 2020-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Paying your con-ed bill now requires child
  102. 2020-05-10 Ascent - Rabbi Shaul Leiter <director-at-ascentofsafed.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lag Ba'Omer Prayers
  103. 2020-05-10 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] The problem with Valkyrie
  104. 2020-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #459 - Perl on YouTube
  105. 2020-05-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] pterasuars - great lecture
  106. 2020-05-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Re: turning authentication off in apache for
  107. 2020-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #459 - Perl on YouTube
  108. 2020-05-11 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Re Bash prompt
  109. 2020-05-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Israeli Tech Market is dieing up leaving its
  110. 2020-05-12 John Darrington <jmd-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using proprietary software [was: Re:
  111. 2020-05-11 From: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] one-paragraph comments on s/w freedom being
  112. 2020-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Movie for the lock out -- see it
  113. 2020-05-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using proprietary software [was: Re:
  114. 2020-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Captain Ryan was burried today at the Greenwood
  115. 2020-05-12 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Conference in the Cloud
  116. 2020-05-13 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  117. 2020-05-12 From: "Dr. Axel Braun" <axel.braun-at-gnuhealth.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  118. 2020-05-13 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  119. 2020-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] At Host testing for Wuhan-(covid)19
  120. 2020-05-13 mike via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  121. 2020-05-13 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] party.party error message "you cannot
  122. 2020-05-13 From: "Dr. Axel Braun" <axel.braun-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  123. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 9 of 10 on vents don't make it
  124. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 35 deaths of Wuhan(covid)19 on 5/11
  125. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Docs Discussion] This does not look like a
  126. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online education is bullshit and defeats the
  127. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Time to end the lock up..
  128. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Wuhan(Bailout) reaching trillions
  129. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Suprise billing?
  130. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] hystreria on the Hill: Vaccines
  131. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nobody is working and economy collapses
  132. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] baill outs
  133. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 3,000,000,000,000
  134. 2020-05-14 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] DRUMROLL . . . 50in50 Writers Announced! Special
  135. 2020-05-14 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] party.party error message "you
  136. 2020-05-14 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Remote education does not require giving up
  137. 2020-05-14 From: "Speaker Corey Johnson" <SpeakerJohnson-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID-19=3A_Weekly_Update_=26_Resour?=
  138. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raffles - and Mitzvots
  139. 2020-05-14 From: "Coursera" <no-reply-at-m.mail.coursera.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free course: COVID-19 Contact Tracing from Johns
  140. 2020-05-11 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Re Bash prompt
  141. 2020-05-13 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  142. 2020-05-12 Chris Cromer via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  143. 2020-05-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  144. 2020-05-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  145. 2020-05-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  146. 2020-05-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  147. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  148. 2020-05-14 Dave Bort <dbort-at-dbort.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to tell if an emulated aarch64 CPU has
  149. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Economics is not a science - Edo-Med and
  150. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 10% of the total population now on unemployment
  151. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 10% of the total population now on unemployment
  152. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WTO head resigns... now it gets interesting
  153. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] To take you mind off the pandemic,
  154. 2020-05-15 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton-server
  155. 2020-05-15 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  156. 2020-05-15 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  157. 2020-05-15 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton-server
  158. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Death by going to the beach
  159. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jail extended another month
  160. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese wet markets just continue
  161. 2020-05-15 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  162. 2020-05-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Old News
  163. 2020-05-15 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  164. 2020-05-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root directory
  165. 2020-05-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  166. 2020-05-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  167. 2020-05-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root directory
  168. 2020-05-16 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  169. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] long analysis of the epidemeic
  170. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Job training - contact tracing class.
  171. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
  172. 2020-05-17 nipponmail-at-firemail.cc Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
  173. 2020-05-17 nipponmail-at-firemail.cc Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Job training - contact tracing class.
  174. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Job training - contact tracing class.
  175. 2020-05-17 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Enjoy some spring baseball
  176. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] i just hate this guy..
  177. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
  178. 2020-05-17 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  179. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Woodstock during the last Pandemic
  180. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] whatever.. babyboomers suck
  181. 2020-05-16 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  182. 2020-05-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  183. 2020-05-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root directory
  184. 2020-05-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #460 - Online Perl Resources
  185. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What pandemic...
  186. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  187. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  188. 2020-05-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #460 - Online Perl Resources
  189. 2020-05-18 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  190. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  191. 2020-05-18 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  192. 2020-05-18 Kelly <kelly-at-transformativecontractors.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Re-opening guidelines, Tempatures taken everywhere
  193. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  194. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Online_Ordering_Now_Available?=
  195. 2020-05-18 CovidHealth Initiative <covidhealth.initiative-at-broncosliveradio.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Quick, painless,
  196. 2020-05-18 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  197. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the greatest painting on social distancing ever
  198. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] the greatest painting on social distancing
  199. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The resistance to DiBlasio is growing
  200. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jerusalem archeology
  201. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Effects of wearing N95 and surgical facemasks on
  202. 2020-05-19 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  203. 2020-05-19 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  204. 2020-05-19 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  205. 2020-05-19 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  206. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] coronas racism
  207. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Latest City rates
  208. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] now in other pharmacuetical news - the bizzarre..
  209. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Getting untangled from the Chinese supply line
  210. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] UAE to Israel- direct
  211. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Speakeasies and Social Distancing
  212. 2020-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I found a perfect present for my grandson
  213. 2020-05-19 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  214. 2020-05-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  215. 2020-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Stay at Home Orders effectiveneness
  216. 2020-05-20 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Let the Fur Fly - Eseentail Businesses
  217. 2020-05-20 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  218. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Generics and Computational power - the 21st
  219. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jamacia Bay as a nature lab
  220. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Case Tracing Class
  221. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Now I am just like Andrew
  222. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Your favorite Jewish Lady in America
  223. 2020-05-21 Fusion Technology <sales.fusiontdl-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Mastering Oracle Database 19c Part 1:
  224. 2020-05-22 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Upcoming mothur and R workshops (with
  225. 2020-05-23 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  226. 2020-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dieing to get into the Pharmacy
  227. 2020-05-24 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Actors Jason Dirden, Roscoe Orman,
  228. 2020-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Most incredible map of NYC
  229. 2020-05-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #461 - How to find a new job?
  230. 2020-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: VimConf 2020 is Canceled
  231. 2020-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out - Fishing on the East River in
  232. 2020-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Anyone remember what this is?
  233. 2020-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] this is what is essentially fucked up about the
  234. 2020-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Analyzing cBioPortal in Bioconductor on
  235. 2020-05-26 Miss Belmar Princess <missbelmar-at-aol.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ANOTHER EXCELLENT DAY OF FISHING!
  236. 2020-05-26 From: "Pharmacy Times Continuing Education - PTCE" <ptce-at-pharmacytimes.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Live Webinar Series Part 2 takes place
  237. 2020-05-26 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Don=E2=80=99t_miss_your_chance_to_wi?=
  238. 2020-05-28 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF gives freedom-respecting videoconferencing to
  239. 2020-05-27 The Hebron Fund <info-at-hebronfund.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Amazing_Hebron_News_=E2=80=93_Cave_O?=
  240. 2020-05-27 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Hampshire includes pharmacists in COVID-19
  241. 2020-05-29 ronald munjoma <simbiso-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 Database upgrade step
  242. 2020-05-30 Axel Braun <Axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 Database upgrade step
  243. 2020-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Man Bites Dogs - FBI - GUILTY
  244. 2020-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Itka working on aptent law
  245. 2020-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] itka on patent reviews

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