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SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
Why American life went on as normal during the killer pandemic of 1969

By Eric Spitznagel

May 16, 2020 | 10:23am | Updated
Enlarge Image
Thousands gather without a care at Woodstock in August 1969 despite a
deadly flu pandemic, while today we cower in place amid COVID-19.
Thousands gather without a care at Woodstock in August 1969 despite a
deadly flu pandemic, while today we cower in place amid COVID-19. Corbis
via Getty Images

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Patti Mulhearn Lydon, 68, doesn’t have rose-colored memories of
attending Woodstock in August 1969. The rock festival, which took place
over four days in Bethel, NY, mostly reminds her of being covered in mud
and daydreaming about a hot shower.

She was a 17-year-old high-school student from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania,
when she made the trek to Max Yasgur’s farm with her boyfriend Rod. For
three nights, she shared an outdoor bedroom with 300,000 other rock fans
from around the country, most of whom were probably not washing their
hands for the length of “Happy Birthday” — or at all.

“There was no food or water, but one of our guys cut an apple into
twenty-seven slices and we all shared it,” she said. At some point, a
garden hose from one of the farm’s neighbors was passed around and
strangers used it as a communal source for bathing and drinking, she said.

And all of this happened during a global pandemic in which over
one million people died.
Enlarge Image
At Woodstock, there was hardly enough food and water, let alone hand
washing or bathing.
Though Woodstock was not held during the peak months of the H3N2
pandemic (the first wave ended by early March 1969, and it didn’t flare
up again until November of that year), the filthy festival went ahead
when the virus was still active and had no known cure.The LIFE Picture
Collection via

H3N2 (or the “Hong Kong flu,” as it was more popularly known) was an
influenza strain that the New York Times described as “one of the worst
in the nation’s history.” The first case of H3N2, which evolved from the
H2N2 influenza strain that caused the 1957 pandemic, was reported in
mid-July 1968 in Hong Kong. By September, it had infected Marines
returning to the States from the Vietnam War. By mid-December, the Hong
Kong flu had arrived in all fifty states.

But schools were not shut down nationwide, other than a few dozen
because of too many sick teachers. Face masks weren’t required or even
common. Though Woodstock was not held during the peak months of the H3N2
pandemic (the first wave ended by early March 1969, and it didn’t flare
up again until November of that year), the festival went ahead when the
virus was still active and had no known cure.

“I wish they had social distancing at Woodstock,” jokes Lydon, who now
lives in Delray Beach, Florida, and works as a purchasing manager for
MDVIP, a network of primary care doctors. “You had to climb over people
to get anywhere.”

I wish they had social distancing at Woodstock. - Patti Lydon, who
attended the festival in 1969

“Life continued as normal,” said Jeffrey Tucker, the editorial director
for the American Institute for Economic Research. “But as with now, no
one knew for certain how deadly [the pandemic] would turn out to be.
Regardless, people went on with their lives.”

Which, he said, isn’t all that surprising. “That generation approached
viruses with calm, rationality and intelligence,” he said. “We left
disease mitigation to medical professionals, individuals and families,
rather than politics, politicians and government.”

While it’s way too soon to compare the numbers, H3N2 has so far proved
deadlier than COVID-19. Between 1968 and 1970, the Hong Kong flu killed
between an estimated one and four million, according to the CDC and
Encyclopaedia Britannica, with US deaths exceeding 100,000. As of this
writing, COVID-19 has killed more than 295,000 globally and around
83,000 in the United States, according to Johns Hopkins University. But
by all projections, the coronavirus will surpass H3N2’s body count even
with a global shutdown.

Aside from the different reactions to H3N2 and COVID-19, the
similarities between them are striking. Both viruses spread quickly and
cause upper respiratory symptoms including fever, cough and shortness of
breath. They infect mostly adults over 65 or those with underlying
medical conditions, but could strike people of any age.

Both pandemics didn’t spare the rich and famous — Hitchcock actress
Tallulah Bankhead and former CIA director Allen Dulles succumbed to
H3N2, while COVID-19 has taken the lives of singer-songwriter John Prine
and playwright Terrence McNally, among others. President Lyndon Johnson
and Vice President Humphrey both fell ill from H3N2 and recovered, as
did UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson from COVID-19 last month.

Both viruses infected animals — a 4-year-old Malayan tiger at the Bronx
Zoo tested positive for the coronavirus in early April, and in January
1969, the original Shamu at San Diego’s SeaWorld, along with two other
killer whales named Ramu and Kilroy, contracted the Hong Kong flu.
Enlarge Image
The H3N2 pandemic of 1969 took the lives of Hitchcock acress Tallulah
Bankhead (left) and former CIA director Allen Dulles.
The H3N2 pandemic of 1969 took the lives of Hitchcock actress Tallulah
Bankhead (left) and former CIA director Allen Dulles.Getty Images (2)

Both pandemics brought drama to outer space: During an Apollo 8 mission
in December 1968, commander Frank Borman came down with the Hong Kong
flu while in orbit. And in early April, three NASA astronauts returned
to Earth after seven months aboard the International Space Station, with
astronaut Jessica Meir remarking that it felt like coming home “to a
different planet.”

During both pandemics, horror stories abounded — from the bodies stored
in refrigerated trucks in New York last month to corpses stored in
subway tunnels in Germany during the H3N2 outbreak.

Those who had H3N2 and survived describe a health battle that sounds
eerily familiar to COVID. “The coughing and difficulty breathing were
the worst but it was the lethargy that kept me in bed,” said Jim Poling
Sr., the author of “Killer Flu: The World on the Brink of a Pandemic,”
who caught the virus while studying at Columbia University. “X-rays
after recovery showed scarring at the bottom of my left lung.”

Renee Ward, 53, remembers her entire family contracting the virus in
Greenville, NC, during Christmas of 1968. “My father got sick first,
quickly followed by me and my mother,” she said. But their symptoms were
mild, for the most part. “Christmas morning, I was trying to play with
my new kitchen set from Santa, while my mother watched from the couch
and cried because we couldn’t travel to be with my grandparents.”

Linda Murray Bullard, 60, from Chattanooga, Tenn., remembers visiting a
“super” grocery store with her mom just before Thanksgiving in 1968.
Days later, her mother was in bed with a fever, chills and dry cough.

“I turned 9 years old on December 5th, but because she was so ill we
didn’t celebrate,” said Bullard. “I just wanted her to feel better.”
Days before Christmas Eve, her 33-year-old mother went to an ER and was
diagnosed with the Hong Kong flu. She died shortly after.

The global fight to stop (or at least slow down) COVID-19 has brought
heavy restrictions on all aspects of public life, including restaurants,
bars, weddings, funerals, churches, movie theaters and gyms. Schools
have reverted to remote learning and most business now happens via Zoom.
The Grand Canyon is closed, as are all Disney parks and Las Vegas
casinos. Professional sports are on indefinite hold, including
Wimbledon, which canceled for the first time since World War II.
Enlarge Image
The Hong Kong flu sickened Shamu (left) and President Lyndon Johnson
(right) but didn’t shut down normal life.
The Hong Kong flu sickened Shamu (above) and President Johnson (right);
COVID-19 has also hit zoo animals and world leaders, including UK Prime
Minister Boris Johnson and the wife of Canadian Prime Minister, Justin
Trudeau.The LIFE Picture Collection via Getty Images; Alamy

How does this compare to the Hong Kong flu? Nathaniel Moir, a
postdoctoral fellow at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of
Government, said there were few precautions taken during the H3N2
pandemic other than washing hands and staying home when sick.

“It was like the pandemic hadn’t even happened if you look for it in
history books,” he said. “I am still shocked at how differently people
addressed — or maybe even ignored it — in 1968 compared to 2020.”

The virus rarely made front-page news. A 1968 story in the Associated
Press warned that deaths caused by the Hong Kong flu “more than doubled
across the nation in the third week of December.” But the story was
buried on page 24. The New York Post didn’t publish any stories about
the pandemic in 1968, and in 1969, coverage was mostly minor, like
reports of newly married couples delaying honeymoons because of the
virus and the Yonkers police force calling in sick with the Hong Kong
flu during wage negotiations.
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Disney's theme parks may stay closed until 2021: analyst

A vaccine was soon developed — in August 1969, not long after Woodstock
— but the news of a cure didn’t get much media attention either.

It may seem like the world responded to the 1968 pandemic with a shrug
of indifference, but the different approaches may be down to a
generational divide, said Poling. In 1968, “we were confident with all
the advances in medicine. Measles, mumps, chickenpox, scarlet fever and
polio all had been brought under control,” he said.

Tucker remembers being taught as a child of the ’60s that “getting
viruses ultimately strengthened one’s immune system. One of my most
vivid memories is of a chickenpox party. The idea was that you should
get it and get it over with when you are young.”

Even with those relaxed ideas about viruses, the Hong Kong flu caught
the world by surprise. It was different from previous pandemics because
of how fast it spread, thanks largely to increased international air travel.

Much of our current thinking about infectious diseases in the modern era
changed because of the SARS outbreak of 2003, which “scared the hell out
of many people,” said Poling. “It’s the first time I recall people
wearing masks and trying to distance themselves from others,
particularly in situations where someone might cough or sneeze.”

The idea that a pandemic could be controlled with social distancing and
public lockdowns is a relatively new one, said Tucker. It was first
suggested in a 2006 study by New Mexico scientist Robert J. Glass, who
got the idea from his 14-year-old daughter’s science project.
Enlarge Image
Apollo 8’s Frank Borman (rightmost) became ill with H3N2 in December
1968 — in space — but quickly got better.
H3N2 even reached as far as outer space, with Apollo 8’s Frank Borman
(above right) becoming ill in December 1968.Getty Images

“Two government doctors, not even epidemiologists” — Richard Hatchett
and Carter Mecher, who worked for the Bush administration — “hatched the
idea [of using government-enforced social distancing] and hoped to try
it out on the next virus.” We are in effect, Tucker said, part of a
grand social experiment.

But the differences between how the world responded to two pandemics,
separated by 50 years, is more complicated than any single explanation.

“If I were 48 in 1968, I would have most likely served in World War II,”
said Moir. “I would have had a little brother who served in Korea, and
possibly might have a son or daughter fighting in Vietnam.” Death, he
said, was a bigger and in some ways more accepted part of American life.

The Hong Kong flu also arrived in a particularly volatile moment in
history. There was the race to land a man on the moon and political
assassinations and sexual liberation and the civil-rights movement.
Without 24/7 news coverage and social media vying for our attention, a
new strain of flu could hardly compete for the public’s attention.

But, even if people in 1968 had been told to stay home, it’s unlikely
they would’ve protested, Moir said. Dining out, for instance, was a rare
indulgence for most American families then. Today, “we spend as much
eating out as we do preparing food at home,” Moir said. A 2013 study by
market research firm NPD Group found that between the mid-1960s to the
late 2000s, middle-income households went from eating at home 92 percent
of the time to 69 percent of the time.

In 2020, we feel that being denied music festivals and restaurants is an
egregious attack on our liberty. “A big part of our freakout over
COVID-19 is a reaction to everything in this country that we’ve taken
for granted,” Moir said. “When it’s taken away, we lose our minds.”

It’s a point echoed by Lydon. Her best memories of that wild weekend
aren’t the sweaty crowds or the music — Jimi Hendrix’s electric guitar
scared the “begeebers” out of her, she said — but the quiet moments
afterwards back at a parent’s house in New Jersey.

“I ate the best grilled-cheese sandwich and drank the best lemonade,”
she said. And “I took the best shower I ever remember.”
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  57. 2020-05-05 Keren Ahava <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  58. 2020-05-05 maya cohen <mayapharmacy-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Doctors report hydroxychloroquine has over 90%
  59. 2020-05-05 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: SDNY Judge Reinstates New York's Cancelled
  60. 2020-05-06 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  61. 2020-05-06 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] We Really Miss You at The Billie!
  62. 2020-05-06 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] health professional on evaluations
  63. 2020-05-06 George Moskowitz MD <yehudazev-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Excellent Overview. Fwd: Covid-19 Patients
  64. 2020-05-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  65. 2020-05-06 maya cohen <mayapharmacy-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Must watch
  66. 2020-05-06 Charlie Gonzalez <itcharlie-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virtual Tech May 2020 Meetup
  67. 2020-05-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] NYC Opsrey
  68. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cadiac Events and Wuhan-19
  69. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Genomice Sequencing for Epidemiology
  70. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] MDs and Economists
  71. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  72. 2020-05-07 Keren Ahava <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Cadiac Events and Wuhan-19
  73. 2020-05-07 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Health Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3
  74. 2020-05-07 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Health Digest, Vol 106, Issue 3
  75. 2020-05-07 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] health professional on evaluations
  76. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] MDs and Economists
  77. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Excellent Overview. Fwd: Covid-19
  78. 2020-05-07 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <learn-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] There is Still Time to Register for an Online
  79. 2020-05-07 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Bash prompt
  80. 2020-05-07 Christos Nouskas via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] 686 support?
  81. 2020-05-07 The Hebron Fund <info-at-hebronfund.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hebron is Always Mother's Day, ZOOM Backgounds,
  82. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] masked
  83. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] this largely sounds like some of out forums
  84. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How can one fight a epidemic with a collapsed
  85. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Monarch Butterflies
  86. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden Interview
  87. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] monarchs
  88. 2020-05-07 cl <kerens3ts-at-aol.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] sars-cov2 info
  89. 2020-05-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] check out this boy genius...
  90. 2020-05-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jon tennant and OpenScience
  91. 2020-05-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] For my sister who questioned if this is a power
  92. 2020-05-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Times dedicated to keeping very one shut
  93. 2020-05-08 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2020 audio now available online
  94. 2020-05-09 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] The problem with Valkyrie
  95. 2020-05-09 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] The problem with Valkyrie
  96. 2020-05-09 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  97. 2020-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This does not look like a man who is following
  98. 2020-05-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Employee surveillance because of COVID-19
  99. 2020-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Israel.pm] Perl on YouTube
  100. 2020-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Paying your con-ed bill now requires child
  101. 2020-05-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Paying your con-ed bill now requires child
  102. 2020-05-10 Ascent - Rabbi Shaul Leiter <director-at-ascentofsafed.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lag Ba'Omer Prayers
  103. 2020-05-10 Kevin Zheng <kevinz5000-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [crossfire] The problem with Valkyrie
  104. 2020-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #459 - Perl on YouTube
  105. 2020-05-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] pterasuars - great lecture
  106. 2020-05-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Re: turning authentication off in apache for
  107. 2020-05-10 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #459 - Perl on YouTube
  108. 2020-05-11 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Re Bash prompt
  109. 2020-05-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Israeli Tech Market is dieing up leaving its
  110. 2020-05-12 John Darrington <jmd-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using proprietary software [was: Re:
  111. 2020-05-11 From: "Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)" <936-846-2769-at-kylheku.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] one-paragraph comments on s/w freedom being
  112. 2020-05-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Movie for the lock out -- see it
  113. 2020-05-12 Jean Louis <bugs-at-gnu.support> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Using proprietary software [was: Re:
  114. 2020-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Captain Ryan was burried today at the Greenwood
  115. 2020-05-12 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Conference in the Cloud
  116. 2020-05-13 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  117. 2020-05-12 From: "Dr. Axel Braun" <axel.braun-at-gnuhealth.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  118. 2020-05-13 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  119. 2020-05-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] At Host testing for Wuhan-(covid)19
  120. 2020-05-13 mike via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  121. 2020-05-13 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] party.party error message "you cannot
  122. 2020-05-13 From: "Dr. Axel Braun" <axel.braun-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Cleaning up openSUSE-Repositories
  123. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 9 of 10 on vents don't make it
  124. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 35 deaths of Wuhan(covid)19 on 5/11
  125. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Docs Discussion] This does not look like a
  126. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online education is bullshit and defeats the
  127. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Time to end the lock up..
  128. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Wuhan(Bailout) reaching trillions
  129. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Suprise billing?
  130. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] hystreria on the Hill: Vaccines
  131. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] nobody is working and economy collapses
  132. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] baill outs
  133. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 3,000,000,000,000
  134. 2020-05-14 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] DRUMROLL . . . 50in50 Writers Announced! Special
  135. 2020-05-14 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] party.party error message "you
  136. 2020-05-14 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Remote education does not require giving up
  137. 2020-05-14 From: "Speaker Corey Johnson" <SpeakerJohnson-at-council.nyc.gov> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?COVID-19=3A_Weekly_Update_=26_Resour?=
  138. 2020-05-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raffles - and Mitzvots
  139. 2020-05-14 From: "Coursera" <no-reply-at-m.mail.coursera.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free course: COVID-19 Contact Tracing from Johns
  140. 2020-05-11 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Re Bash prompt
  141. 2020-05-13 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  142. 2020-05-12 Chris Cromer via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  143. 2020-05-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  144. 2020-05-12 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  145. 2020-05-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  146. 2020-05-12 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] system not
  147. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  148. 2020-05-14 Dave Bort <dbort-at-dbort.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] How to tell if an emulated aarch64 CPU has
  149. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Economics is not a science - Edo-Med and
  150. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 10% of the total population now on unemployment
  151. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 10% of the total population now on unemployment
  152. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] WTO head resigns... now it gets interesting
  153. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] To take you mind off the pandemic,
  154. 2020-05-15 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton-server
  155. 2020-05-15 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  156. 2020-05-15 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  157. 2020-05-15 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Tryton-server
  158. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Death by going to the beach
  159. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jail extended another month
  160. 2020-05-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese wet markets just continue
  161. 2020-05-15 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  162. 2020-05-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Old News
  163. 2020-05-15 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  164. 2020-05-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root directory
  165. 2020-05-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  166. 2020-05-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  167. 2020-05-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root directory
  168. 2020-05-16 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  169. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] long analysis of the epidemeic
  170. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Job training - contact tracing class.
  171. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
  172. 2020-05-17 nipponmail-at-firemail.cc Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
  173. 2020-05-17 nipponmail-at-firemail.cc Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Job training - contact tracing class.
  174. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Job training - contact tracing class.
  175. 2020-05-17 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Enjoy some spring baseball
  176. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] i just hate this guy..
  177. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] i want out ...
  178. 2020-05-17 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  179. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Woodstock during the last Pandemic
  180. 2020-05-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] whatever.. babyboomers suck
  181. 2020-05-16 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] GNU Shepherd init
  182. 2020-05-16 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  183. 2020-05-15 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root directory
  184. 2020-05-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #460 - Online Perl Resources
  185. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What pandemic...
  186. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  187. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  188. 2020-05-18 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #460 - Online Perl Resources
  189. 2020-05-18 From: "Odile C. Kamno" <christelia3-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  190. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  191. 2020-05-18 Yusif Suleiman <yusifsuleiman-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  192. 2020-05-18 Kelly <kelly-at-transformativecontractors.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Re-opening guidelines, Tempatures taken everywhere
  193. 2020-05-18 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  194. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_Online_Ordering_Now_Available?=
  195. 2020-05-18 CovidHealth Initiative <covidhealth.initiative-at-broncosliveradio.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Quick, painless,
  196. 2020-05-18 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  197. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the greatest painting on social distancing ever
  198. 2020-05-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] the greatest painting on social distancing
  199. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The resistance to DiBlasio is growing
  200. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jerusalem archeology
  201. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Effects of wearing N95 and surgical facemasks on
  202. 2020-05-19 Armand MPASSY-NZOUMBA via Health <health-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  203. 2020-05-19 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  204. 2020-05-19 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Error Message: "There is no "account
  205. 2020-05-19 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  206. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] coronas racism
  207. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Latest City rates
  208. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] now in other pharmacuetical news - the bizzarre..
  209. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Getting untangled from the Chinese supply line
  210. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] UAE to Israel- direct
  211. 2020-05-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Speakeasies and Social Distancing
  212. 2020-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I found a perfect present for my grandson
  213. 2020-05-19 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  214. 2020-05-19 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] not mounting root
  215. 2020-05-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Stay at Home Orders effectiveneness
  216. 2020-05-20 shulie <shulie_release-at-optimum.net> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Let the Fur Fly - Eseentail Businesses
  217. 2020-05-20 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Online resources to explore with your students
  218. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Generics and Computational power - the 21st
  219. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Jamacia Bay as a nature lab
  220. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Case Tracing Class
  221. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Now I am just like Andrew
  222. 2020-05-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Your favorite Jewish Lady in America
  223. 2020-05-21 Fusion Technology <sales.fusiontdl-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Mastering Oracle Database 19c Part 1:
  224. 2020-05-22 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Upcoming mothur and R workshops (with
  225. 2020-05-23 Axel Braun <axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Fw: Tryton-server
  226. 2020-05-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dieing to get into the Pharmacy
  227. 2020-05-24 The Billie Holiday Theatre <info-at-thebillieholiday.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Actors Jason Dirden, Roscoe Orman,
  228. 2020-05-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Most incredible map of NYC
  229. 2020-05-25 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #461 - How to find a new job?
  230. 2020-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: VimConf 2020 is Canceled
  231. 2020-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Check this out - Fishing on the East River in
  232. 2020-05-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Anyone remember what this is?
  233. 2020-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] this is what is essentially fucked up about the
  234. 2020-05-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Analyzing cBioPortal in Bioconductor on
  235. 2020-05-26 Miss Belmar Princess <missbelmar-at-aol.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] ANOTHER EXCELLENT DAY OF FISHING!
  236. 2020-05-26 From: "Pharmacy Times Continuing Education - PTCE" <ptce-at-pharmacytimes.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Live Webinar Series Part 2 takes place
  237. 2020-05-26 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Don=E2=80=99t_miss_your_chance_to_wi?=
  238. 2020-05-28 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF gives freedom-respecting videoconferencing to
  239. 2020-05-27 The Hebron Fund <info-at-hebronfund.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Amazing_Hebron_News_=E2=80=93_Cave_O?=
  240. 2020-05-27 NCPA eCommunications <ncpa.ecommunications-at-ncpanet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New Hampshire includes pharmacists in COVID-19
  241. 2020-05-29 ronald munjoma <simbiso-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 Database upgrade step
  242. 2020-05-30 Axel Braun <Axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] 3.6.3 to 3.6.4 Database upgrade step
  243. 2020-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Man Bites Dogs - FBI - GUILTY
  244. 2020-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Itka working on aptent law
  245. 2020-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] itka on patent reviews

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