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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?] (fwd)
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Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?] (fwd)
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Date: 02 Jul 2003 06:32:54 -0400
From: Michael L Richardson
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Subject: [Fwd: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?]
-----Forwarded Message-----
> From: Chris Kaminski
> To: WWWAC
> Subject: [wwwac] MS 'owns' the Web?
> Date: 02 Jul 2003 12:19:53 +0200
>
> From Dave Winer:
>
> When Microsoft took over the browser market, they turned all
> Web developers into Microsoft developers. It was one of the
> most selfish acts ever in the software business.
>
> But it didn't happen in a vacuum. In order for it to work,
> Netscape had to completely miss the developer opportunity.
> Instead of serving people who built websites and coded in
> HTML, their natural constituency, they courted C developers
> (with Java), who were strongly connected to Microsoft --
> and stranded Web developers without a leader, with Microsoft.
>
> Now Microsoft is like the US in Vietnam, except they won.
> They have no business here, they don't understand the Web,
> they're an occupying force. The sad thing is that Microsoft
> is now clearly foreclosing the Web, they're not upgrading
> the browser, they're not fixing bugs, they simply don't
> care about the Web. If they tell you they do, tell them
> actions speak louder, and their lack of action speaks loudest.
>
>
>
>
> I think he's a bit pessimistic--it is still possible to build websites
> that are vendor-neutral, but as time goes on that may not be the case.
> Already, one must pay for an MSN subscription if one wants to test on
> the latest version of IE for the Mac (it's integrated into MSN). You
> already need multiple Windows licenses to (legally) test multiple
> versions of IE. Both of these differ from Safari insofar as Safari's
> engine is Open Source, and so can be approximated using Konqueror on
> Linux or OmniWeb 4.5 on OS X.
>
> Note: Winer a vested interest in deemphasizing the Web: RSS is his
> baby, and it provides an alternate mode of browsing content sites.
>
> I dunno. Does MS own the Web? It doesn't look good, and it looks very
> much like they're making the same moves in the media player space.
> Real's days are probably numbered.
>
> I'm having trouble being terribly optimistic, especially in the light
> of this:
>
> Netscape Founder Says Web Browsing Innovation Dead
>
> [Yahoo.com]
> > nm/20030701/wr_nm/tech_internet_andreessen_dc> [direct link]
>
> I'm not so much concerned by Andreeson's comments (not at all concerned
> by them, actually) as by this:
>
> Microsoft ultimately won the war as Microsoft's IE is now
> used by more than 90 percent of the Web surfing population.
>
> No mention that they won their share through tactics that were found to
> have violated antitrust law.
>
> They got their browser share in part through tactics that were found to
> be illegal in a U.S. court of law (and AFAIK the EU is still
> investigating them). Now they're cashing in and outside of Winer, Dori
> Smith[1], Ben Henick[2], the WaSP[3] and a handful of others[4],
> nobody's saying boo about it. None of the mainstream press coverage has
> so much as mentioned the significance of MS's moves--that they're
> consolidating illegally-obtained market power.
>
> That makes me sad. And worried.
>
>
> --
> chris.kaminski = ( design | code ) { http://www.setmajer.com }
>
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]
> [4] (scroll
> down for list of links)
>
>
>
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