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| DATE | 2003-07-01 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it.
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Jul 1 22:04:25 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h6224Pgd007830 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:04:25 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h6224O59007829 for hangout-desteny; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:04:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h6223Bgd007798; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:03:11 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h6223Bd1007797; Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:03:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:03:11 -0400 From: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS To: "Ray C." Cc: Michael Richardson , "'hangout-at-nylxs.com'" Subject: Re: [hangout] Please check this before I send it. Message-ID: <20030702020311.GA7774-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <069D219A1FFED611983300A0C9A02A5612AB39-at-NYCSV1> <200307011227.09154.ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200307011227.09154.ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 13069 Status: RO Content-Length: 3627 Lines: 83
If it's OK with Mike it is ok with me
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 12:27:09PM -0400, Ray C. wrote: > > chose a better battle > > On Tuesday 01 July 2003 10:00 am, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Please check this letter before I send it to Mandrake-Linux. > > > > My name is Michael L. Richardson, I am currently President of NYLXS, > > INC. > > (New York Gnu/Linux Scene). NYLXS is decicated to promoting Free Software > > in the NY Area. I have used Mandrake-Linux vers 7.1, 7.2, 8.0, 8.1, 9.0 > > and now 9.1. In the Users guide for ver 9.1 section IV.11 introduction to > > Mandrake control center, Whats in DrakConf is written "Mandrake Control > > Center is Mandrake Linux's main configuration tool. It enables the system > > administrator to configure the hardware and the services used for all > > users. The tools accessible through the Mandrake Control Center greatly > > simplify the use of the system, notably by avoiding the use of the evil > > command line." > > > > I take execption to the phrase "notably by avoiding use of the evil > > command > > line". At the heart of GNU/Linux Systems is the use of the command line. > > For a System Adminstrator using GNU/Linux the main tool is the command > > line. This is not windows where users are not allowed to use the command > > line. Using the command line gives you the freedom to learn how to use your > > computer (not just the proprity progrqams someone else wrote. You lean how > > the various parts of the computer interact, how to write your own programs. > > When using the command line you are not limited to predetimered conditions > > imposed by someone else (With Free Software under the GPL you are free to > > modify programs to suit your needs) or write your own. > > > > The pharse "evil command line" has no place in Free Software or any > > system > > using Free Software it is a Redmond phrase. As you have made your distros > > easier to use you have been taking away choices (during the install you no > > longer have an expert choice. Oh it says expert but when you click it it > > does not give you any choices. The wizards leaves nothing to be done. > > It leaves me wondering if Mandrake-Linux is perhaps headed towards becoming > > the next Redmond clone? The command line is ManDrake-Linux's saving > > grace without it I would not be using Mandrake-Linux. > > > > The pharse "notably by avoiding use of the evil command line" must > > be > > removed. > > > > ____________________________ > > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > > Fair Use - > > because it's either fair use or useless.... > > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > > -- > At times the discrepency between institutions and technology becomes an > incompatibility, and then one or the other must give way. > -Allen Wheelis > > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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