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| DATE | 2004-10-09 |
| FROM | Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Poor French are upset we discovered their corruption
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From owner-hangouts-destenys-at-mrbrklyn.com Sat Oct 9 09:09:47 2004 X-UIDL: ZNH"!8X'"!-ei"!5Td!! Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id i99D9l30001477 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:09:47 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id i99D9l7p001476 for hangouts-destenys; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:09:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangouts-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id i99D9ldr001471; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:09:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (miker-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id i99D9lvO001468; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:09:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 09:09:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT To: Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] Poor French are upset we discovered their corruption In-Reply-To: <20041009044853.A31610-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hangouts-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.5 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Keywords: X-UID: 37796 Status: RO Content-Length: 6532 Lines: 138
>From what I rea the French are upset in the way this was handled, and the nameing of non US persons without naming US persons.
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS wrote:
> > WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 - The Bush administration's handling this week of a > report on Saddam Hussein's attempts to purchase weapons and buy > influence has angered French officials and set back a year of American > efforts to repair the rupture caused by the Iraq war, French and other > European officials said Friday. > Advertisement > > The anger of France and others is focused on the assertions in the > report by Charles A. Duelfer, the top American arms inspector in Iraq, > that French companies and individuals, some with close ties to the > government, enriched themselves through Iraq's efforts to gain > influence around the world in the years before the war. > > Administration spokesmen said Friday that there was no intent in > releasing the report to endorse its findings or blame France or any > other country for corruption, or to link any alleged corruption to that > country's subsequent opposition to the war in Iraq. > > On the other hand, Vice President Dick Cheney and others in the > administration are citing the Duelfer report as evidence that Mr. > Hussein had sought to corrupt foreign countries in order to have > sanctions on Iraq lifted. Although Mr. Cheney did not say so directly, > French officials say it was obvious that he was referring to France and > other countries that had opposed the war. > > French officials say that the report's charges, based on documents and > interviews in Iraq, have been denied in the past, but that Mr. > Duelfer's report did not contain the denials. They also complain that > France was not given more than one day's notice before the report was > issued. > > They were incensed that the report also mentioned Americans in > connection with similar charges but that unlike the French they were > not identified because of American privacy regulations. > > "You protect American citizens, but you put in danger a number of > private citizens in other countries who may be innocent people," said > Jean-David Levitte, the French ambassador to the United States. "These > names are from an old list, published months ago, and those mentioned > denied it flatly." > > A European diplomat said the damage to French-American relations was so > great that it could disrupt a new spirit of cooperation with France on > other fronts, namely the joint American and European efforts to put > pressure on Iran to dismantle its suspected nuclear weapons program and > to organize an international conference next month on Iraq. > > "This report does great damage," Mr. Levitte said. "There really is a > sense of outrage in Paris. We don't want to create a situation that > will put us back to one year ago. But these are dirty tricks at the > expense of France, with the White House putting the finger on the name > of France." Mr. Duelfer's main conclusion - that Iraq did not have > unconventional weapons when the Bush administration was charging that > it had them - got the most publicity when the 918-page report was > issued. > > But the administration highlighted charges that under Mr. Hussein, Iraq > was successful in circumventing the sanctions placed on it by the > United Nations by purchasing conventional weapons with money siphoned > fraudulently from a program authorized by the United Nations in 1996, > allowing Iraq to sell oil and use the revenue for food, medicine and > other human necessities. > > To curry favor around the world, Iraq set up a system in which some > individuals and companies were able to profit by manipulating the > oil-for-food program. Among those enriched in this process, the report > said, were French, Russian and other officials. > > Administration spokesmen said Friday that the United States did not > endorse the allegations that anyone was enriched by Iraq's practices, > only that Iraq was trying to buy influence and weaken sanctions. > > "It doesn't say that those transactions were completed," said Richard > A. Boucher, the State Department spokesman. "It doesn't say whether or > not governments intervened. It doesn't say whether or not the > individuals declined. It doesn't really say what happened." > > But that was not the tone adopted by Mr. Cheney and other officials > caught up in President Bush's tough re-election campaign. In Florida on > Thursday, Mr. Cheney said Mr. Hussein had used oil funds to corrupt > "some employees of the United Nations as well as other governments in > the hopes that they would work with him to undermine the sanctions." > > A day before releasing the Duelfer report, the State Department called > in officials from several embassies in Washington to give them a > preview. That meeting itself stirred anger, according to those who > attended. "We were not given the text of the report," said a diplomat > from a country other than France. "We were directed to the C.I.A. Web > site, and we couldn't download it," because the site was swamped. > > Mr. Levitte said he had called top officials at the White House and the > State Department to protest "in very strong terms that I considered > this very unfair and not good behavior from a great democracy, to > protect your own citizens and give publicity to others in the Web site > of the C.I.A." > > He said the officials had "noted with some embarrassment that I had a > point." > > > Try The New York Times Electronic Edition Free for 1 Week! -- > __________________________ > Brooklyn Linux Solutions > > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, > like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the > world - RI Safir 1998 > > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 > http://fairuse.nylxs.com > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting > http://www.inns.net <-- Happy Clients > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and > articles from around the net > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown > Brooklyn.... > > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc >
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