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| DATE | 2004-10-06 |
| FROM | From: "Inker, Evan"
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Microsoft prepares to kill Linux with different Windows flavours
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Microsoft prepares to kill Linux with different Windows flavours Role-based variations of the operating system will be cheaper and more secure.
By James Niccolai, IDG News Service
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Microsoft is developing versions of Windows with only a subset of its code base, designed for specific server tasks. The intention is to reduce maintenance costs and create products that are less vulnerable to attack, and so tackle head-on the threat posed by Linux.
The new "role-based" products may appear in 2007, when the server version of Longhorn is scheduled for release. Offering a smaller code base would mark a significant technical shift for Microsoft and could help address the competitive threat posed by Linux. But it also presents significant engineering challenges for the company, industry analysts said.
Microsoft already sells two role-based versions of Windows - one for storage and one for Web serving. They essentially conceal from users the parts of Windows that are not needed for the task at hand, making them easier to install and use. But those products still are based on the entire Windows code base.
With its Longhorn release, Microsoft hopes to offer role-based versions of Windows for tasks such as storage, file, or print serving that include only a part of the overall Windows code, said Martin Taylor, Microsoft general manager for platform strategy. "Today, it's still the entire code base. There's no reduction in the bits you get - things are just roped off," Taylor said. "We want to get to a model of role-based deployment where you might just have the bits you need for that function. It's one of our design goals for Longhorn."
Many enterprises separate tasks such as e-mail and Web hosting, assigning them to individual servers or groups of servers. Microsoft would continue to sell the full version of Windows for use as a general purpose operating system, but could offer the role-based products for servers assigned to particular tasks, he said.
Such a move could benefit customers in two primary ways: better security and lower maintenance costs, said Michael Cherry, lead analyst at Directions on Microsoft. Reducing the amount of code on a server would reduce the "attack surface area," Cherry said, meaning hackers would have less code to aim at with their viruses. A virus last month that targeted a component for viewing jpeg image files affected Windows Server 2003, he noted, even though customers managing their servers remotely don't need that component on their servers.
Having less code should also mean lower maintenance costs, in part because customers will not have to apply patches to the parts of Windows that do not exist on their servers. "If you have a server whose role is definable and distinct, and you only load enough code to carry out that role, then it's got to bring the total cost of ownership down," Cherry said.
A Microsoft spokeswoman confirmed that the goals of providing a smaller Windows "footprint" are to cut maintenance costs and provide a "reduced surface attack area".
Taylor didn't say whether the role-based server editions would be cheaper than the full versions of Windows. The role-based products it sells today - Windows Storage Server 2003 and Windows Server 2003 Web Edition - are cheaper than the full versions of Windows Server 2003, although usage restrictions apply.
Removing parts of Windows presents engineering challenges. For starters, Microsoft must ensure that ISVs can continue to write applications without worrying about which components are available to them, Taylor said. "The nice thing about Windows today is that Windows is Windows," he said.
Microsoft is also keen not to limit the software's management capabilities. For example, the current Web Edition of Windows cannot serve as a domain controller, which means it can't be used to manage group policies, Internet authentication services and other tasks. "You have trade-offs in cost and trade-offs in manageability, so it's a fine balance," Taylor said. He did not provide an exact timetable for the products, but said development work is "pretty far down the path."
The proposed changes to Windows come as Microsoft faces perhaps its toughest challenger yet in the form of Linux. The open source operating system has been growing among governments and businesses, in part because some view it as a cheaper and more secure alternative.
One advantage of the Linux source code being publically available is that customers can take the kernel apart and use only the components they want.
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With its Longhorn release, Microsoft hopes to offer role-based ver= sions=20 of Windows for tasks such as storage, file, or print serving that inc= lude=20 only a part of the overall Windows code, said Martin Taylor, Microsof= t=20 general manager for platform strategy. "Today, it's still the entire = code=20 base. There's no reduction in the bits you get - things are just rope= d=20 off," Taylor said. "We want to get to a model of role-based deploymen= t=20 where you might just have the bits you need for that function. It's o= ne of=20 our design goals for Longhorn."
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Such a move could benefit customers in two primary ways: better=20 security and lower maintenance costs, said Michael Cherry, lead analy= st at=20 Directions on Microsoft. Reducing the amount of code on a server woul= d=20 reduce the "attack surface area," Cherry said, meaning hackers would = have=20 less code to aim at with their viruses. A virus last month that targe= ted a=20 component for viewing jpeg image files affected Windows Server 2003, = he=20 noted, even though customers managing their servers remotely don't ne= ed=20 that component on their servers.
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A Microsoft spokeswoman confirmed that the goals of providing a sm= aller=20 Windows "footprint" are to cut maintenance costs and provide a "reduc= ed=20 surface attack area".
Taylor didn't say whether the role-based server editions would be= cheaper than the full versions of Windows. The role-based products i= t=20 sells today - Windows Storage Server 2003 and Windows Server 2003 Web= Edition - are cheaper than the full versions of Windows Server 2003,= although usage restrictions apply.
Removing parts of Windows presents engineering challenges. For=20 starters, Microsoft must ensure that ISVs can continue to write=20 applications without worrying about which components are available to= them, Taylor said. "The nice thing about Windows today is that Windo= ws is=20 Windows," he said.
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The proposed changes to Windows come as Microsoft faces perhaps it= s=20 toughest challenger yet in the form of Linux. The open source operati= ng=20 system has been growing among governments and businesses, in part bec= ause=20 some view it as a cheaper and more secure alternative.
One advantage of the Linux source code being publically available = is=20 that customers can take the kernel apart and use only the components = they=20 want. |
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