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DATE | 2001-12-29 |
FROM | Ron Guerin
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Sat Dec 29 18:12:21 2001 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id fBTNCJq15161 for hangout-desteny; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:12:19 -0500 Received: from vnetworx.net (www.vnetworx.net [64.39.31.89]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id fBTNCJW15156 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:12:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 17786 invoked by uid 513); 29 Dec 2001 23:12:30 -0000 Received: from dsl081-215-127.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net (64.81.215.127) by www.vnetworx.net with SMTP; 29 Dec 2001 23:12:30 -0000 Subject: Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents From: Ron Guerin To: Billy Donahue Cc: Alan Wiess , hangout-at-nylxs.com In-Reply-To: <2.1-211334-263-A-OEWW-at-209.48.2.106> References: <2.1-211334-263-A-OEWW-at-209.48.2.106> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.0.99+cvs.2001.12.18.08.57 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Dec 2001 18:10:50 -0500 Message-Id: <1009667451.4991.67703.camel-at-amory> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ron Guerin List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 18718 Status: RO Content-Length: 2004 Lines: 49
On Sat, 2001-12-29 at 15:33, Billy wrote: > Alan Wiess wrote: > > > OK > > > > So how much would you want to teach a 25 hour Class > > for NYLXS? > > I'm not teaching one in the immediate future, so there's no use trying > to extract a number from me. If anyone out there needs some spare > cash, I believe there's nothing ethically wrong with a little > moonlighting for NYLXS. When you make it a question to me personally > of how much money I would want, then we're talking about a detail of a > hypothetical situation. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what I would do > it for, because I'm not doing it.
(apologies to Billy, for using him as an example throughout)
As the recipient of an academic stipend in my past, I understood immediately what Ruben was hoping to achieve, and Billy's response confirmed it. No one gets rich off stipends unless there's monkey business afoot.
Using the original Perl course as a guide, we have a stipend of $500 spread out over 45 hours, which works out to about $11 an hour. I'm sure if Billy was _writing_ Perl code for a client, he'd be charging more than $11 an hour, and he'd probably be doing the work at a time and place of his own convenience.
Personally, I find teaching more draining than programming, so if I were being asked by a client to teach a workshop or something, I'd be charging my full hourly day rate. (which is substantially more than $11/hr.)
>From the NYLXS perspective, offering a stipend makes it possible for guys like Billy to come and teach _more_. If he would have taught one class before, now he might be able to squeeze in a second class. You're not making it profitable for him, you're just making it less of a hardship. If Billy's son was about 16, that $500 would only buy the new sneakers he'd be lusting after, and maybe a first run showing of a DMCA protected movie at a theater for three.
Ron
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