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Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:54:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Sulzberger
To: Dana Hudes
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com, Jay Sulzberger
Subject: Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Dana Hudes wrote:
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> I do NOT apologize for charging money for my services when I choose to do so. That includes teaching.
> Anyone can just put up a sign, physical or virtual, and offer a "class". Teaching in University is subject to
> some amount of professional behavior and quality of services. Its official and on the record, and I think
> you will find that there is a rather large union who not only think University instructors should be paid but
> that they should be paid *more*. Actually there are at least two such unions. I'm a member of one (by dint of
> teaching in the university, its an open shop but you do have to join the union -- there is no choice).
> That said, from time to time over the past few years I have offered my services to give a lecture at no cost to various user groups.
> I specifically engaged in discussion with the Gnubies to offer such a lecture but its basically Ari Jort's turf. They seem happy enough with what he gives them and he's willing to continually extend himself, so their calendar is pretty much booked and its a mutally satisfactory arrangement.
I think most free software advocates, and most free software designers,
coders, businessfolk, bankers, and users believe in getting paid for their
> I had originally considered offering to give a lecture under the
> auspices of NYLXS. This is no longer going to happen. I am, however,
> planning a short pre-installation HOW-TO briefing for the install fest
> which is sponsored by my firm and taking place at my apartment on
> Sunday 30 December (and btw, no YU faculty live in Washington Heights;
> Bennett Ave. is not Washington Heights its "Riverbank", and I don't
> live up there anyway). Let's get that clear: Yeshiva University is
> not involved in the install fest, although several of my students will
> likely attend it is not in any way shape or form sponsored by YU or
> any other organization including NYLXS. NYLXS members and other
> interested parties who keep a civil tongue in their head and act
> accordingly on this list are welcome and cordially invited to
> participate in either getting Linux installed or helping others.
> Bandie and Abdele are welcome to see if they are tougher than my
> doorman but I don't want to hear the screams when he steps on them. In
> other words, they are specifically requested to keep out of my
> neighborhood much less my building -- at all times.
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