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DATE | 2001-12-18 |
FROM | Jon Bober
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SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Dec 18 17:35:07 2001 Received: from mail.rm-cpa.com (mail.rm-cpa.com [216.112.229.114]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id fBIMZ7c09080 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:35:07 -0500 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (dsl254-112-136.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.112.136]) by mail.rm-cpa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18569; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:29:51 -0500 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) id fBIMXtt09060 for hangout-desteny; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:33:55 -0500 Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id fBIMXtc09055 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:33:55 -0500 Received: from 207-237-234-242.c3-0.nyr-ubr3.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com ([207.237.234.242]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 16GSo8-0000c5-00 for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:33:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:30:15 -0500 From: Jon Bober To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings Message-Id: <20011218173015.566ae23b.jwb235-at-nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20011218125916.A5522-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20011218125916.A5522-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.3 (GTK+ 1.2.9; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Jon Bober List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Keywords: X-UID: 19153 Status: RO Content-Length: 1471 Lines: 43
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:59:16 -0500 Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > > Universal to release copy-protected CD > in U.S. > > [...] > > Universal told retailers that it would honor refunds on all returned > discs -- even for CDs that have been opened. > > [...] > > Retailers, such as TransWorld Entertainment in Albany, N.Y., welcome > the initiative, and have spent time briefing their sales staff about > the new technology and possible snafus. It is preparing to ``cheerfully > refund'' the consumer's purchase price at its 1,000 stores nationwide, > including the ``Strawberries'' and ``Coconuts'' chains. > > ``They've been testing this in Europe and they're experiencing less > than a 1 percent return rate from consumers. It really has turned > out to be nothing,'' said Jerry Kamiler, TransWorld Entertainment's > division merchandise manger. ``If we get the same results here, as I > imagine we would, I don't think it's going to manifest itself into a > consumer problem.'' >
Perhaps it would be a good idea to start a "buy the cd, open it, and return it" initiative in quiet protest (along with all of the loud vocal protests.) Of course, such a thing may just get then to revoke the refund policy. It would be quite annoying for them, however. ____________________________ New Yorker Linux Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless....
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