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DATE 2001-12-12
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Dec 12 23:38:04 2001
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There were a number of issues to discuss at the last meeting which I
failed to get to. One was the Desktop initiatitve, and I think this would
nicely fit under that that since graphic artists work and multi-media are
huge desktop applications which are not being agressively serviced at this
point in free software. The absolute first step in this is to pluch your
$40 dollars down on an NYLXS membership, by mailing a check wither to me
of to our Treasurer, Joe Maffia, Rosenswseig and Maffia, 845 3rd Ave,
NYC. Make the check out to NYLXS.

And then we can create the Desktop Committee, and the Artists Committee
under it, lead by you and Joe, so you can begin to rack up hours for this
work. We would need to get together and brain storm ways of getting
Linuxes artist tools more profile outside of the current Linux mindset,
and we can also address the need for programs with cvapabilities similar
to Illustrater and Quark Express.


Don't underestimate some of the real complaints artists have about the
GIMP et al. There is no doubt in my mind that the GIMP is FAR MORE
powerful than Photoshop, but that the lack of a CMKB filter is crippling
for printing businesses. And I doubt there is anythng liek Quark Express,
Pagemaker or Illustrator. So what we can't directly code, we can be an
interface to the Free Software developement people and try to perfect the
features available and the implimentations.

A real Mac Mouse jock with Photoshop is something extrodenary to witness.
We might be good to try to incobate a company which specializes in
Artwork and printing done with Free Software and compete with lower
pricing to develop the market.



>
> I would love to participate in the development of a series of
> lecture/demonstrations/live tutorials for the end user of creative
> products already available under Linux. I would hope these
> could be instrumental in promoting the present sexyness of Linux(1) and
> in getting more people excited about using free software.


>
> Of course most people using linux have had to fight through hours
> of installation and information gathering on their own, but the whole
> point would be to get more people excited and involved (turned on ? :)).




> Before even coming to an installfest someone could get an image of what
> they can expect and ultimately why they would want Linux at home or in
> their company. Each demo would also introduce people to the issues
> surrounding opensource (gif, video codecs, hardware coompatibility, etc.)
>
> Possible sexy subjects could include:
>
> --Perl + Gimp is a very powerful tool no matter on which side
> of the computing world you reside. Couldn't a demo on creating animated
> gifs in the gimp turn someone on to using Linux in the first place? and
> a little script-fu or perl scipting seal the deal?
>
> --I have some experience with 3d modeling, rendering and motion graphics
> under Linux,(using a mixture of free and open source tools). Blender
> (not open-source but free as in you don't have to pay) is reason enough
> for some one to want to install linux at home. I can frankly say anyone
> even contimplating spending the money on one of the commercial 3d
> applications is crazy not to at least check out what is availble for
> free under linux. There are an amazing number of strong tools.
>
> --The list of audio applications and tools is also incredible, just name
> what you want to do. The computer music world has been developing under
> unix for years (something about the mathematicians liking bach and going
> to composition school and learning to program). I could come up with
> some cool demos
>
> --Often a creative project using free software has to use multiple
> tools. Graphics or multimedia people are trained in art school to use
> macromedia's, digidesign's or adobe's killer apps. They get turned off
> by what seems to be the confusion of multiple small tools.(3) I think it
> would be crutial in these demos to walk a project from begining to end.
> It is possible to make pdfs using linux right now. The chain of
> small tools necessary can be daunting, but easily demonstratable by a
> knowledgeable person. There is a debate to be had on what subjects
> deserve live presentation, and which are best demostrated on a webpage.
>
>
> Two important links I assume many of you already know:
> http://www.linuxartist.org and
> http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/ .
>
> Looking forward to your thoughts,
>
>
> Marco
>
> PS I footnoted some stuff cause this was getting really long, sorry if I
> ramble.
>
> (1) Sexyness is crutially important in driving people's desires.
> Sexiness in computers is power and ease (or as the commercial OS
> and software vendors have known for years, the illusion of power and
> ease). There is little wonder why the largest computer graphics houses
> are using Linux render farms on the back end to create the graphics for
> the biggest Hollywood movies. What most people don't realize is that
> you can have a largely indentical set of front end tools at home also
> for free.
>
> (2) Another problem for professionals with the gimp is the color space
> issue. It seems totally insane, but as I understand it, the gamma
> values for the individual colors in say Adobe RGB are treated as
> industry secrets. You can already change these values for an image in
> the gimp, thus you have the ability to match any colorspace, but you
> just can't know exactly what values Adobe uses. By staying in sRGB (s
> for standard?), on my macs, I feel I have resolved most problems.
> Another case of companies convincing the end user that certain things
> are incredibly complicated when in reality they are just hiding
> standards. > projected etc. here>
>
>
> (3) I think many people using macs unfortunately think of free software
> as tiny little apps that don't do much but risk creating dreaded
> extention conflicts with their several hundred dollar adobe or macro
> media packages in the ever precarious system folder (lets not even talk
> about the horrible response OSX's interface has gotten from the creative
> mac user community).
>
> Linux on Mac also borrows some of that platform's sex appeal. I used
> to live in DC. Very active in the LUGs there is a man named Billy Ball
> who wrote some of the Linux Unleashed books and who would bring macs
> loaded with linux to every public appearance of the dc area LUGS. There
> was no greater head turner than his cube or his imac running free
> software. I brought my titanium running yellow dog to Ruben's last
> installfest but didn't get to show it off ;)
>
>
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  100. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introducing myself
  101. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introducing myself
  102. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  103. 2001-12-27 nylxsmlr-at-mycouponmagic.com Subject: [hangout] Introducing myself
  104. 2001-12-27 nylxsmlr-at-mycouponmagic.com Subject: [hangout] Introducing myself
  105. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [wwwac] Hypercapitalism (was: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook Digi)
  106. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [wwwac] Hypercapitalism (was: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook Digi)
  107. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  108. 2001-12-26 David Katz <omnimath-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  109. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Re: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  110. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Re: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  111. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  112. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  113. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I guess I'll just accept life as a criminal
  114. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I guess I'll just accept life as a criminal
  115. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  116. 2001-12-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  117. 2001-12-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  118. 2001-12-26 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  119. 2001-12-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  120. 2001-12-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  121. 2001-12-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  122. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Intros
  123. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Intros
  124. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook
  125. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook
  126. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  127. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  128. 2001-12-26 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  129. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Youngen One's - Lock them all up
  130. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Youngen One's - Lock them all up
  131. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  132. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  133. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  134. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  135. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  136. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More SSH vurnability - Exploitation of vulnerability in SSH1 CRC-32
  137. 2001-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re:
  138. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: glibc/shlibs,
  139. 2001-12-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] review of lessing book
  140. 2001-12-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] NY TIMES site
  141. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY TIMES site
  142. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: preview
  143. 2001-12-23 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  144. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  145. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  146. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYLXS.ORG [ron-at-vnetworx.net]
  147. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYLXS.ORG [ron-at-vnetworx.net]
  148. 2001-12-22 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  149. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another Introduction: Schoolforge & NYLXS Educational Committee [william-at-inch.com]
  150. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another Introduction: Schoolforge & NYLXS Educational Committee [william-at-inch.com]
  151. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] This is soooo cool
  152. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: preview
  153. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  154. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  155. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  156. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  157. 2001-12-22 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Fonts for Linux by the 20 score
  158. 2001-12-22 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Fonts for Linux by the 20 score
  159. 2001-12-22 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] review of lessing book
  160. 2001-12-22 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] review of lessing book
  161. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  162. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  163. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  164. 2001-12-21 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  165. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  166. 2001-12-21 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  167. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Patents
  168. 2001-12-21 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] request for confirm
  169. 2001-12-21 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] request for confirm
  170. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ANNOUNCEMENT: InService on Secure Web Transactions
  171. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  172. 2001-12-19 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  173. 2001-12-19 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  174. 2001-12-19 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  175. 2001-12-19 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  176. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] To amuse you [thelwell-at-mindspring.com]
  177. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] To amuse you [thelwell-at-mindspring.com]
  178. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] easy way to delete specific type of files on disk
  179. 2001-12-19 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] clean up the projects...
  180. 2001-12-19 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] clean up the projects...
  181. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: LinuxWorld New York 2002 [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com]
  182. 2001-12-18 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  183. 2001-12-18 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  184. 2001-12-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  185. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  186. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  187. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  188. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  189. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  190. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  191. 2001-12-18 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  192. 2001-12-18 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  193. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  194. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Perl Class - Thanks for the good times
  195. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Perl Class - Thanks for the good times
  196. 2001-12-18 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  197. 2001-12-18 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  198. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  199. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  200. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  201. 2001-12-18 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  202. 2001-12-18 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  203. 2001-12-18 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  204. 2001-12-18 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  205. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lobby NOW - Congress Open For Business
  206. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lobby NOW - Congress Open For Business
  207. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Workshop
  208. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Workshop
  209. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  210. 2001-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Sys Admin Mag
  211. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use meeting with Congressman Weiner
  212. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use meeting with Congressman Weiner
  213. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  214. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  215. 2001-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Now Cross P2P platform
  216. 2001-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Now Cross P2P platform
  217. 2001-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  218. 2001-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  219. 2001-12-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] suggest couse learning Linux or Unix
  220. 2001-12-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  221. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  222. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  223. 2001-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  224. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  225. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  226. 2001-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  227. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  228. 2001-12-09 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYC targeted for a Nuke
  229. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYC targeted for a Nuke
  230. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  231. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  232. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  233. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] glimmer
  234. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  235. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  236. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  237. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Searching
  238. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Searching
  239. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  240. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  241. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  242. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  243. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  244. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  245. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  246. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  247. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  248. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  249. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  250. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  251. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  252. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  253. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  254. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  255. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linksys Module Compile
  256. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linksys Module Compile
  257. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  258. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  259. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  260. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  261. 2001-12-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  262. 2001-12-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  263. 2001-12-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  264. 2001-12-08 Jon Britton <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  265. 2001-12-08 Jon Britton <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  266. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  267. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  268. 2001-12-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  269. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  270. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  271. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  272. 2001-12-07 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  273. 2001-12-07 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  274. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  275. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  276. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  277. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  278. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  279. 2001-12-07 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  280. 2001-12-07 Brian Seitz <bds215-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  281. 2001-12-07 Brian Seitz <bds215-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  282. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  283. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  284. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  285. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  286. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  287. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  288. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  289. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  290. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  291. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  292. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  293. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  294. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  295. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  296. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  297. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  298. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  299. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installfest.org
  300. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installfest.org
  301. 2001-12-06 Michael Osten <kulua-at-reefedge.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  302. 2001-12-06 From: "Michael H. Collins" <mhtexcollins-at-austin.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  303. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: a new modperl book: mod_perl Developer's Cookbook [stas-at-stason.org]
  304. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: pine & pop3 [vagn-at-ranok.com]
  305. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: pine & pop3 [vagn-at-ranok.com]
  306. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last nights meeting
  307. 2001-12-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Update for Quarantining Malicious Outlook Attachments [conover-at-rahul.net]
  308. 2001-12-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  309. 2001-12-05 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  310. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sendmail
  311. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: NYLXS In-Service Lecture Wireless Networking
  312. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: NYLXS In-Service Lecture Wireless Networking
  313. 2001-12-03 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] X Server Configuration
  314. 2001-12-03 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] X Server Configuration
  315. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New York City Noon Monday 3 December 2001: Rally to Free Dmitry Sklyarov
  316. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Linux Intenation [membership-at-li.org]
  317. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: your study [biella-at-eff.org]
  318. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: your study [biella-at-eff.org]
  319. 2001-12-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] WebSite changes
  320. 2001-12-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] WebSite changes
  321. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WebSite changes
  322. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WebSite changes
  323. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
  324. 2001-12-02 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
  325. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New FAQ
  326. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New FAQ
  327. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Slackware Kernel Question
  328. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Slackware Kernel Question
  329. 2001-12-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] lists.us.dell.com
  330. 2001-12-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] lists.us.dell.com
  331. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Digital Divide
  332. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Digital Divide
  333. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] When Civilizations Clash
  334. 2001-12-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We are just not doing enough...
  335. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  336. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  337. 2001-12-01 Jon <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] We are just not doing enough...
  338. 2001-12-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] December 5th Agenda
  339. 2001-12-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] December 5th Agenda

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