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MESSAGE
DATE 2001-12-07
FROM Ron Guerin
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Dec 7 02:47:52 2001
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On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 02:16, Jon Bober wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:15:20 -0500
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> rganization
> > C. Active Voting student membership requires proof of student status
> > plus three hours of assigned volunteer work per month for the organization
> > and current on student dues.
>
> I think that special student membership is a wonderful idea, however,
> it is not sufficiently defined in the bylaws. At the end of the
> meeting, I made a comment mostly in jest that was something like "So
> what are the student membership dues?" Ruben responded by saying that
> the idea was intended for high school students moreso than college
> students.
>
> I fully agree with this - I think that many college students have cash to
> burn, compared to their parents who are usually the ones actually
> paying for college. 40 bucks, by Manhatten prices, is typically not
> much more than a case and a half of beer, or a week or two of
> cigarettes, and less than many new video games.

I was working part-time as a full-rate consultant in college, and I was
indeed awash in cash. That was hardly the norm, most of my friends at
college didn't have a pot to piss in. One was living on a $5 weekly
"allowance" from his parents. Another used to buy 35 cents worth of gas
for his car to get to work.

If you have to paint college kids with the same brush, paint them as
broke, not as having any meaningful disposable income.

Have you considered making a distinction between full-time college
students and part-time students? The part-timers are more likely to
have "real" jobs with real paychecks.

Even better... how about a means-test? Since the issue here is about
money, then make the distinction about money. Any kid who's applied for
(college) aid should be able to flash that same paperwork to the NYLXS
membership committee to establish their eligibility for a break. If
you're paying your own way through Princeton, then you can afford to pay
your own way through NYLXS also. If you're getting a TAP grant to go to
state college (don't know if they still call it that), then you're
probably not going to have $40 to join NYLXS.

Ron



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  1. 2001-12-01 Jon <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] We are just not doing enough...
  2. 2001-12-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] December 5th Agenda
  3. 2001-12-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] December 5th Agenda
  4. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
  5. 2001-12-02 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
  6. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New York City Noon Monday 3 December 2001: Rally to Free Dmitry Sklyarov
  7. 2001-12-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We are just not doing enough...
  8. 2001-12-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] WebSite changes
  9. 2001-12-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] WebSite changes
  10. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  11. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  12. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Linux Intenation [membership-at-li.org]
  13. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: your study [biella-at-eff.org]
  14. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: your study [biella-at-eff.org]
  15. 2001-12-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] lists.us.dell.com
  16. 2001-12-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] lists.us.dell.com
  17. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New FAQ
  18. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New FAQ
  19. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Slackware Kernel Question
  20. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Slackware Kernel Question
  21. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Digital Divide
  22. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Digital Divide
  23. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WebSite changes
  24. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WebSite changes
  25. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] When Civilizations Clash
  26. 2001-12-03 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] X Server Configuration
  27. 2001-12-03 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] X Server Configuration
  28. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: NYLXS In-Service Lecture Wireless Networking
  29. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: NYLXS In-Service Lecture Wireless Networking
  30. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sendmail
  31. 2001-12-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  32. 2001-12-05 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  33. 2001-12-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Update for Quarantining Malicious Outlook Attachments [conover-at-rahul.net]
  34. 2001-12-06 Michael Osten <kulua-at-reefedge.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  35. 2001-12-06 From: "Michael H. Collins" <mhtexcollins-at-austin.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  36. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: a new modperl book: mod_perl Developer's Cookbook [stas-at-stason.org]
  37. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: pine & pop3 [vagn-at-ranok.com]
  38. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: pine & pop3 [vagn-at-ranok.com]
  39. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last nights meeting
  40. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  41. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  42. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  43. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  44. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  45. 2001-12-07 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  46. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  47. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  48. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  49. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  50. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  51. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  52. 2001-12-07 Brian Seitz <bds215-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  53. 2001-12-07 Brian Seitz <bds215-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  54. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  55. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  56. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  57. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  58. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  59. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  60. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  61. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  62. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  63. 2001-12-07 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  64. 2001-12-07 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  65. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  66. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  67. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installfest.org
  68. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installfest.org
  69. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  70. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  71. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  72. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  73. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  74. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  75. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  76. 2001-12-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  77. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  78. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  79. 2001-12-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  80. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  81. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  82. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  83. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  84. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  85. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  86. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  87. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  88. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  89. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  90. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  91. 2001-12-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  92. 2001-12-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  93. 2001-12-08 Jon Britton <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  94. 2001-12-08 Jon Britton <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  95. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  96. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  97. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linksys Module Compile
  98. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linksys Module Compile
  99. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  100. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  101. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  102. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  103. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  104. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  105. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  106. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  107. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  108. 2001-12-09 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYC targeted for a Nuke
  109. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYC targeted for a Nuke
  110. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  111. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] glimmer
  112. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Searching
  113. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Searching
  114. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  115. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  116. 2001-12-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  117. 2001-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  118. 2001-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  119. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  120. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  121. 2001-12-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] suggest couse learning Linux or Unix
  122. 2001-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  123. 2001-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  124. 2001-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Now Cross P2P platform
  125. 2001-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Now Cross P2P platform
  126. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  127. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  128. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use meeting with Congressman Weiner
  129. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use meeting with Congressman Weiner
  130. 2001-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Sys Admin Mag
  131. 2001-12-18 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  132. 2001-12-18 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  133. 2001-12-18 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  134. 2001-12-18 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  135. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  136. 2001-12-18 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  137. 2001-12-18 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  138. 2001-12-18 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  139. 2001-12-18 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  140. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  141. 2001-12-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  142. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  143. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  144. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  145. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  146. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  147. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Workshop
  148. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Workshop
  149. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  150. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  151. 2001-12-18 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  152. 2001-12-18 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  153. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: LinuxWorld New York 2002 [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com]
  154. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Perl Class - Thanks for the good times
  155. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Perl Class - Thanks for the good times
  156. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lobby NOW - Congress Open For Business
  157. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lobby NOW - Congress Open For Business
  158. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  159. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  160. 2001-12-19 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  161. 2001-12-19 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  162. 2001-12-19 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] clean up the projects...
  163. 2001-12-19 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] clean up the projects...
  164. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] To amuse you [thelwell-at-mindspring.com]
  165. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] To amuse you [thelwell-at-mindspring.com]
  166. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] easy way to delete specific type of files on disk
  167. 2001-12-19 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  168. 2001-12-19 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  169. 2001-12-21 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  170. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  171. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  172. 2001-12-21 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  173. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ANNOUNCEMENT: InService on Secure Web Transactions
  174. 2001-12-21 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] request for confirm
  175. 2001-12-21 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] request for confirm
  176. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Patents
  177. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  178. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  179. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  180. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  181. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  182. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  183. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  184. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  185. 2001-12-22 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  186. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] This is soooo cool
  187. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another Introduction: Schoolforge & NYLXS Educational Committee [william-at-inch.com]
  188. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another Introduction: Schoolforge & NYLXS Educational Committee [william-at-inch.com]
  189. 2001-12-22 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Fonts for Linux by the 20 score
  190. 2001-12-22 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Fonts for Linux by the 20 score
  191. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYLXS.ORG [ron-at-vnetworx.net]
  192. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYLXS.ORG [ron-at-vnetworx.net]
  193. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: preview
  194. 2001-12-22 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] review of lessing book
  195. 2001-12-22 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] review of lessing book
  196. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  197. 2001-12-23 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  198. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY TIMES site
  199. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: preview
  200. 2001-12-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] NY TIMES site
  201. 2001-12-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] review of lessing book
  202. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  203. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More SSH vurnability - Exploitation of vulnerability in SSH1 CRC-32
  204. 2001-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re:
  205. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: glibc/shlibs,
  206. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  207. 2001-12-26 David Katz <omnimath-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  208. 2001-12-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  209. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  210. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  211. 2001-12-26 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  212. 2001-12-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  213. 2001-12-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  214. 2001-12-26 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  215. 2001-12-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  216. 2001-12-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  217. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  218. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  219. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Intros
  220. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Intros
  221. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  222. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  223. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I guess I'll just accept life as a criminal
  224. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I guess I'll just accept life as a criminal
  225. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  226. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  227. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [wwwac] Hypercapitalism (was: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook Digi)
  228. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [wwwac] Hypercapitalism (was: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook Digi)
  229. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook
  230. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook
  231. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Re: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  232. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Re: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  233. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  234. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Youngen One's - Lock them all up
  235. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Youngen One's - Lock them all up
  236. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  237. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  238. 2001-12-27 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  239. 2001-12-27 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  240. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast
  241. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introducing myself
  242. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introducing myself
  243. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  244. 2001-12-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  245. 2001-12-27 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  246. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  247. 2001-12-27 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  248. 2001-12-27 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  249. 2001-12-27 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  250. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: BLS Advanced Perl Class
  251. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: BLS Advanced Perl Class
  252. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ANNOUNCEMNT:: GTK Programming Workshop
  253. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ANNOUNCEMNT:: GTK Programming Workshop
  254. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  255. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM [thalakan-at-lightconsulting.com]
  256. 2001-12-27 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In Rewritten Internet Fables, the Late Bird Gets the Worm
  257. 2001-12-27 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In Rewritten Internet Fables, the Late Bird Gets the Worm
  258. 2001-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Feast
  259. 2001-12-27 nylxsmlr-at-mycouponmagic.com Subject: [hangout] Introducing myself
  260. 2001-12-27 nylxsmlr-at-mycouponmagic.com Subject: [hangout] Introducing myself
  261. 2001-12-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  262. 2001-12-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  263. 2001-12-27 nylxsmlr-at-mycouponmagic.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL
  264. 2001-12-27 nylxsmlr-at-mycouponmagic.com Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL
  265. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  266. 2001-12-28 Joseph F Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  267. 2001-12-28 Joseph F Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Apache log with a google entry?
  268. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Install Feast
  269. 2001-12-28 Joseph F Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Install Feast
  270. 2001-12-28 Joseph F Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Install Feast
  271. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  272. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  273. 2001-12-28 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  274. 2001-12-28 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  275. 2001-12-28 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Laptops, Internet and Cell Phones
  276. 2001-12-28 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  277. 2001-12-28 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  278. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Public Relations Committee Introduction
  279. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Public Relations Committee Introduction
  280. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Public Relations Committee Introduction
  281. 2001-12-28 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  282. 2001-12-28 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  283. 2001-12-28 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign
  284. 2001-12-28 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  285. 2001-12-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  286. 2001-12-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  287. 2001-12-28 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  288. 2001-12-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  289. 2001-12-28 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  290. 2001-12-28 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction - Free Software Institute
  291. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Introduction
  292. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Introduction
  293. 2001-12-28 Joseph F Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Public Relations Committee Introduction
  294. 2001-12-28 Joseph F Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Public Relations Committee Introduction
  295. 2001-12-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Web site stats & Redesign
  296. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Website Redesign
  297. 2001-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Website Redesign
  298. 2001-12-28 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] www.nylinux.com
  299. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congrads
  300. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congrads
  301. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction - Free Software Institute
  302. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction - Free Software Institute
  303. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction - Free Software Institute
  304. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction - Free Software Institute
  305. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Congrads
  306. 2001-12-29 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  307. 2001-12-29 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  308. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  309. 2001-12-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  310. 2001-12-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  311. 2001-12-29 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  312. 2001-12-29 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  313. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Web site stats & Redesign
  314. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign
  315. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign
  316. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  317. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  318. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  319. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  320. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  321. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  322. 2001-12-29 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  323. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] www.nylinux.com
  324. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Congrads
  325. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Scheduling algorithims...
  326. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Taxi
  327. 2001-12-30 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Color printing
  328. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Color printing
  329. 2001-12-30 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction - Free Software Institute - economic policy
  330. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: missing create_compressed_fs (fwd)
  331. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: missing create_compressed_fs (fwd)
  332. 2001-12-30 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  333. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign
  334. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign
  335. 2001-12-30 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Color printing
  336. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] ebXML vs BizTalk
  337. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] ebXML vs BizTalk
  338. 2001-12-30 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Teacher Appreciation
  339. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ] http://www.fcc.gov and LINUX exclusion (fwd)

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