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|SUBJECT ||Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
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From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
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> I would love to participate in the development of a series of
> lecture/demonstrations/live tutorials for the end user of creative
> products already available under Linux. I would hope these
> could be instrumental in promoting the present sexyness of Linux(1) and
> in getting more people excited about using free software.
There were a number of issues to discuss at the last meeting which I
failed to get to. One was the Desktop initiatitve, and I think this would
nicely fit under that that since graphic artists work and multi-media are
huge desktop applications which are not being agressively serviced at this
point in free software. The absolute first step in this is to pluch your
$40 dollars down on an NYLXS membership, by mailing a check wither to me
of to our Treasurer, Joe Maffia, Rosenswseig and Maffia, 845 3rd Ave,
NYC. Make the check out to NYLXS.
And then we can create the Desktop Committee, and the Artists Committee
under it, lead by you and Joe, so you can begin to rack up hours for this
work. We would need to get together and brain storm ways of getting
Linuxes artist tools more profile outside of the current Linux mindset,
and we can also address the need for programs with cvapabilities similar
to Illustrater and Quark Express.
Don't underestimate some of the real complaints artists have about the
GIMP et al. There is no doubt in my mind that the GIMP is FAR MORE
powerful than Photoshop, but that the lack of a CMKB filter is crippling
for printing businesses. And I doubt there is anythng liek Quark Express,
Pagemaker or Illustrator. So what we can't directly code, we can be an
interface to the Free Software developement people and try to perfect the
features available and the implimentations.
A real Mac Mouse jock with Photoshop is something extrodenary to witness.
We might be good to try to incobate a company which specializes in
Artwork and printing done with Free Software and compete with lower
pricing to develop the market.
> Of course most people using linux have had to fight through hours
> of installation and information gathering on their own, but the whole
> point would be to get more people excited and involved (turned on ? :)).
One of the things we should try to contribute in this regard is a
distribution based on the needs of the graphics artist and multimedia.
And we need to develop a training program and a development program.
Remember that developing leadership in this field, and all other linux
related field, will drive the market and the mindset of CEO's and
educators around the globe.
> --Perl + Gimp is a very powerful tool no matter on which side
> of the computing world you reside. Couldn't a demo on creating animated
> gifs in the gimp turn someone on to using Linux in the first place? and
> a little script-fu or perl scipting seal the deal?
This would make a great Inserivce and I encourage you to volunteer this.
Also, the Free Software Institute which is being lead by Paul Hernandez,
should include this under it's curiculem.
> --Often a creative project using free software has to use multiple
> tools. Graphics or multimedia people are trained in art school to use
> macromedia's, digidesign's or adobe's killer apps. They get turned off
> by what seems to be the confusion of multiple small tools.(3) I think it
> would be crutial in these demos to walk a project from begining to end.
> It is possible to make pdfs using linux right now.
Yes - but I'm not doing it...
BTW - I'm dieing for someone to teach Blender of Moonlight.
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