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DATE 2001-12-07
FROM Jon Bober
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
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Although bylaws were just passed - though amended a fair amount from these posted, FTOYNATM [For Those Of You Not At The Meeting, a new acronym that I am creating and will use some more in this post, and perhaps in the future], - I would like to make some comments about the bylaws (hopefully those amended bylaws will be posted soon) that I should have made yesterday, and a long time ago (had I actually perused them before hand.)

On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:15:20 -0500
Ruben Safir wrote:
rganization
> C. Active Voting student membership requires proof of student status
> plus three hours of assigned volunteer work per month for the organization
> and current on student dues.

I think that special student membership is a wonderful idea, however, it is not sufficiently defined in the bylaws. At the end of the meeting, I made a comment mostly in jest that was something like "So what are the student membership dues?" Ruben responded by saying that the idea was intended for high school students moreso than college students.

I fully agree with this - I think that many college students have cash to burn, compared to their parents who are usually the ones actually paying for college. 40 bucks, by Manhatten prices, is typically not much more than a case and a half of beer, or a week or two of cigarettes, and less than many new video games. However, long-term, this could be a problem if people who don't want to pay attempt to claim student status - and I hope to be a student in some form or another my entire life, and just reading through this list is probably a learning experience for many.

> Section 3. Two thirds (2/3) of officers make a quorum at execitive
> meetings. Executive meetings most take place once a month, in the
> second week of the month.

I don't recall this specific line from last night, so perhaps it was changed before hand. I also think that many other people at the meeting would have had problems with the line, given the exact desciption of when during the month executive meetings should take place. So, it was probably changed, but if not, I voice that I have a problem with it.

> Board, or upon request of any four active members in good standing.
> Special meetings are a form of executive meeting.

I recall something like this in the bylaws last night, but I am unsure if it was changed. If nylxs becomes a large organization, the number four could become a problem - perhaps it should be changed to a percentage in order to account for growth. However, the bylaws do not say anything about the requirement for a request for a special meeting to be granted.

> If the organization is dissolved, all assets of the organization shall be
> divided equally among the active members in good standing after all bills
> are paid.

This sounds dangerous. It was breifly discussed, but as a result of the fact that it was at the end of the constitution, I think that it got the least attention. (FTOYNATM, the meeting ran quite late - I believe that there was a motion to extend the meeting for 30 minutes, followed 29 minutes later by a motion to extend the meeting for 20 minutes, followed 19 minutes later by a motion to extend the meeting for 15 minutes - and I believe that although some people even left early, most of the people who remained at the meeting had more important things to do today than I did, and some of them even have families ;)

Anyway, I am sure that nylxs does not want to turn off any potential big donors from donating lots of money to us (and hopefully that day will come some day,) but this clause could do so. Although I am certain that there are US laws, and perhaps NY laws, that would bar us from running away with lots of money, it would probably be better P.R. if the clause had some statement like "In the case that the organization is dissolved, every possible attempt will be made to return to non-member donors the money that was donated."

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Also, I seem to recall that there was some clause in the constitution regarding the prohibition of commercial companies from sponsering nylxs. While I understand the need for such a clause - that is, I would never like to see nylxs come under the influence of a commercial company - I would not like to discourage people from donating to nylxs. I think that such a clause, if included, should say that nylxs should not accept money from companies that comes with conditions imposed upon the organization, but should not say that nylxs will not accept donations from commercial organizations. Ideally, I wouldn't mind if Redhat donated some money to nylxs one day - but I would never like the organization to formally agree to support Redhat over some other linux company, or to become dependant on donations from commercial companies, for that matter. One thing that debian does is that on their website, in the section where they list debian vendors, they mark those who contribute a portion of proceeds to debian - a list on the website of people or companies who donate things to nylxs might not be a bad idea if the day comes when nylxs could possibly get donations.

Alright then - enough for now. I understand that it was a good step to formally pass bylaws yesterday, but I immediately put forth that I would like to see the bylaws revisited when more permanent elections are held. I have zero experience with things such as organizational bylaws, but I think that some of the things mentioned above could become problems as nylxs becomes a larger, more long term organization.

Everything said to be taken with at least a few grains of salt,

Jon Bober.
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  7. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ] http://www.fcc.gov and LINUX exclusion (fwd)
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  9. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign
  10. 2001-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Color printing
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  14. 2001-12-29 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
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  16. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Taxi
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  18. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  19. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
  20. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Congrads
  21. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Congrads
  22. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congrads
  23. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Congrads
  24. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Website Redesign (fwd)
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  26. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Web site stats & Redesign
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  30. 2001-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] www.nylinux.com
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  106. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] Re: [wwwac] Hypercapitalism (was: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook Digi)
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  109. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Re: DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
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  111. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  112. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook - End of the Digial Revolution
  113. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I guess I'll just accept life as a criminal
  114. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I guess I'll just accept life as a criminal
  115. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Teaching Stipents
  116. 2001-12-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  117. 2001-12-26 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  118. 2001-12-26 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  119. 2001-12-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  120. 2001-12-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  121. 2001-12-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  122. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Intros
  123. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Intros
  124. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook
  125. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] DVD region codes Ti Powerbook
  126. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  127. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  128. 2001-12-26 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Evolution
  129. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Youngen One's - Lock them all up
  130. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Youngen One's - Lock them all up
  131. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  132. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  133. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  134. 2001-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lock up all the youngen ones now
  135. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Advisory Watch - December 21st 2001
  136. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More SSH vurnability - Exploitation of vulnerability in SSH1 CRC-32
  137. 2001-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re:
  138. 2001-12-25 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: glibc/shlibs,
  139. 2001-12-24 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] review of lessing book
  140. 2001-12-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] NY TIMES site
  141. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY TIMES site
  142. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: preview
  143. 2001-12-23 user01-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  144. 2001-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  145. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  146. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYLXS.ORG [ron-at-vnetworx.net]
  147. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYLXS.ORG [ron-at-vnetworx.net]
  148. 2001-12-22 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Re: [hangout] Re: preview
  149. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another Introduction: Schoolforge & NYLXS Educational Committee [william-at-inch.com]
  150. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Another Introduction: Schoolforge & NYLXS Educational Committee [william-at-inch.com]
  151. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] This is soooo cool
  152. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: preview
  153. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  154. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  155. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  156. 2001-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  157. 2001-12-22 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Fonts for Linux by the 20 score
  158. 2001-12-22 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Fonts for Linux by the 20 score
  159. 2001-12-22 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] review of lessing book
  160. 2001-12-22 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] review of lessing book
  161. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  162. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  163. 2001-12-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  164. 2001-12-21 mystor <user01-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A Cd's Natural Price is $2.00
  165. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  166. 2001-12-21 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  167. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Patents
  168. 2001-12-21 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] request for confirm
  169. 2001-12-21 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] request for confirm
  170. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ANNOUNCEMENT: InService on Secure Web Transactions
  171. 2001-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  172. 2001-12-19 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  173. 2001-12-19 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  174. 2001-12-19 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  175. 2001-12-19 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] what do you think of this?
  176. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] To amuse you [thelwell-at-mindspring.com]
  177. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] To amuse you [thelwell-at-mindspring.com]
  178. 2001-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] easy way to delete specific type of files on disk
  179. 2001-12-19 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] clean up the projects...
  180. 2001-12-19 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] clean up the projects...
  181. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: LinuxWorld New York 2002 [Kristin_Gallo-at-idg.com]
  182. 2001-12-18 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  183. 2001-12-18 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  184. 2001-12-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  185. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  186. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  187. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  188. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  189. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  190. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA'd CD Recordings
  191. 2001-12-18 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  192. 2001-12-18 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  193. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  194. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Perl Class - Thanks for the good times
  195. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Perl Class - Thanks for the good times
  196. 2001-12-18 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  197. 2001-12-18 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  198. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  199. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  200. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] VPN's threatened by Cable companies
  201. 2001-12-18 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  202. 2001-12-18 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Fine Tuning Window Display in X
  203. 2001-12-18 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  204. 2001-12-18 From: "Michael M. L. Broggy" <mbroggy-at-xooyooz.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  205. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lobby NOW - Congress Open For Business
  206. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lobby NOW - Congress Open For Business
  207. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Workshop
  208. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee Workshop
  209. 2001-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] rsync problem
  210. 2001-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Sys Admin Mag
  211. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use meeting with Congressman Weiner
  212. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use meeting with Congressman Weiner
  213. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  214. 2001-12-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  215. 2001-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Now Cross P2P platform
  216. 2001-12-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Now Cross P2P platform
  217. 2001-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  218. 2001-12-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  219. 2001-12-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] suggest couse learning Linux or Unix
  220. 2001-12-10 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  221. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  222. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  223. 2001-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  224. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  225. 2001-12-10 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Tulip drivers
  226. 2001-12-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  227. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  228. 2001-12-09 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYC targeted for a Nuke
  229. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] NYC targeted for a Nuke
  230. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  231. 2001-12-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  232. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  233. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] glimmer
  234. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  235. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  236. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  237. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Searching
  238. 2001-12-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Searching
  239. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  240. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh Please... is everyone just dumb as a rock
  241. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  242. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  243. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  244. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  245. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  246. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  247. 2001-12-08 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [comp.mail.sendmail] Re: Sendmail via LInuxconf
  248. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  249. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  250. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  251. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  252. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  253. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  254. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  255. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linksys Module Compile
  256. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Linksys Module Compile
  257. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  258. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  259. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  260. 2001-12-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  261. 2001-12-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  262. 2001-12-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  263. 2001-12-08 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  264. 2001-12-08 Jon Britton <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  265. 2001-12-08 Jon Britton <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  266. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  267. 2001-12-08 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  268. 2001-12-08 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  269. 2001-12-08 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  270. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Linux World Expo
  271. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  272. 2001-12-07 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  273. 2001-12-07 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Committee or Good Project
  274. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  275. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  276. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  277. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Stallman re: Information Producers Initiative
  278. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Attention LDP authors and would-be authors...
  279. 2001-12-07 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  280. 2001-12-07 Brian Seitz <bds215-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  281. 2001-12-07 Brian Seitz <bds215-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  282. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  283. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  284. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  285. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  286. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] dhcp renewal
  287. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  288. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Linksys Module Compile
  289. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  290. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  291. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  292. 2001-12-07 Jon Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Re: nylxs bylaws
  293. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  294. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  295. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  296. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  297. 2001-12-07 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  298. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] installfest.org
  299. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installfest.org
  300. 2001-12-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installfest.org
  301. 2001-12-06 Michael Osten <kulua-at-reefedge.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  302. 2001-12-06 From: "Michael H. Collins" <mhtexcollins-at-austin.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Adequacy.org || Is Your Son a Computer Hacker?
  303. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: a new modperl book: mod_perl Developer's Cookbook [stas-at-stason.org]
  304. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: pine & pop3 [vagn-at-ranok.com]
  305. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: pine & pop3 [vagn-at-ranok.com]
  306. 2001-12-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last nights meeting
  307. 2001-12-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Update for Quarantining Malicious Outlook Attachments [conover-at-rahul.net]
  308. 2001-12-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  309. 2001-12-05 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] Sendmail
  310. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sendmail
  311. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: NYLXS In-Service Lecture Wireless Networking
  312. 2001-12-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Announcement: NYLXS In-Service Lecture Wireless Networking
  313. 2001-12-03 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] X Server Configuration
  314. 2001-12-03 Ari Jort <arijort-at-valinux.com> Re: [hangout] X Server Configuration
  315. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New York City Noon Monday 3 December 2001: Rally to Free Dmitry Sklyarov
  316. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Linux Intenation [membership-at-li.org]
  317. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: your study [biella-at-eff.org]
  318. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: your study [biella-at-eff.org]
  319. 2001-12-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] WebSite changes
  320. 2001-12-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] WebSite changes
  321. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WebSite changes
  322. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WebSite changes
  323. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
  324. 2001-12-02 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Apologies and threats
  325. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New FAQ
  326. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New FAQ
  327. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Slackware Kernel Question
  328. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Slackware Kernel Question
  329. 2001-12-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] lists.us.dell.com
  330. 2001-12-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] lists.us.dell.com
  331. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Digital Divide
  332. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Digital Divide
  333. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] When Civilizations Clash
  334. 2001-12-02 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We are just not doing enough...
  335. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  336. 2001-12-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  337. 2001-12-01 Jon <jon-at-corporatelords.org> Re: [hangout] We are just not doing enough...
  338. 2001-12-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] December 5th Agenda
  339. 2001-12-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] December 5th Agenda

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