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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/03/business/03SUN.html?ex=1081573200&en=102a14fdde41817b&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

Microsoft and Sun End Long Acrimony in Surprise Accord
By STEVE LOHR

Published: April 3, 2004

icrosoft and Sun Microsystems announced a surprising armistice yesterday, ending years of public acrimony between Scott McNealy, Sun's chief executive and the leader of the anti-Microsoft camp in Silicon Valley, and the world's largest software company.

Under the agreement, Microsoft will pay Sun, its longtime rival, a total of $1.6 billion to settle Sun's private antitrust suit against Microsoft and to resolve patent claims. The pact also includes a 10-year commitment by the two companies to work closely together, share technology and license each other's intellectual property.

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In a separate announcement yesterday, Sun said it would lay off 3,300 employees, or 9 percent of its work force. Sun also said that it would report a loss of $750 million to $810 million for the quarter ended in March. That is bigger than Wall Street had expected.

Far more significant than any element of the pact is the striking change of heart and the circumstances that pushed Sun and Microsoft toward a truce.

Sun, a technology pioneer whose business has struggled recently, has long been Microsoft's nemesis and was an instigator of the sweeping government antitrust cases against Microsoft in the United States and Europe.

Mr. McNealy has a well-earned reputation as Microsoft's most persistent and quotable antagonist. In the past, he routinely described Microsoft's software as an overly complex "hairball." He once referred to Microsoft's leaders, Steven A. Ballmer, the chief executive, and Bill Gates, the chairman and cofounder, as "Ballmer and Butthead."

His tone was very different yesterday during a joint press conference with Mr. Ballmer in San Francisco. The agreement, Mr. McNealy said, "puts peace on the table in a big way."

Mr. McNealy has often called Microsoft an unrepentant monopolist. But he said that the agreement reflected changing times and attitudes for both companies. "Maybe we've grown up, and maybe they've grown up," he said.

Neither Sun, based in Santa Clara, Calif., nor Microsoft, based in Redmond, Wash., has the swagger or arrogance it had a few years ago. Sun has suffered humbling setbacks in the marketplace, while Microsoft's main troubles have come in the courtroom. "There are weaknesses on both sides that have pushed Sun and Microsoft to finally compromise," said Michael Cusumano, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Sloan School of Management.

Shares of Sun rose 87 cents, or 20 percent, yesterday to close at $5.06. Shares of Microsoft gained 77 cents, or 3 percent, to close at $25.85.

The technology business is gradually beginning to pull out of the long slump that followed the Internet boom years. But both Mr. McNealy and Mr. Ballmer spoke of how much the balance of power in technology markets had shifted from suppliers to corporate customers. Those customers now use hardware and software from several suppliers, including Sun and Microsoft, in their corporate data centers. That fact has caused them to push suppliers to make sure their products work smoothly together, especially the two key software technologies for Internet-based computing: Java, which was created by Sun, and Microsoft's .Net.

The settlement talks between Sun and Microsoft began more than a year ago, with a telephone call from Mr. McNealy to Mr. Ballmer. Mr. McNealy explained that he called because corporate customers had steadily been telling him to "cut the rhetoric, Scott."

Mr. McNealy made the first step, but Mr. Ballmer had also heard similar concerns from customers. "We're in a new era of customer-driven competition," Mr. Ballmer said in an interview. "That will tone down the rhetoric."

Mr. McNealy, 49, and Mr. Ballmer, 48, are far from strangers. They knew each other growing up in the Detroit suburbs, they both attended Harvard University and later the Stanford University business school. "We're pretty good friends," Mr. McNealy said, though he added "We've had some rocky moments."

After years of animosity, the negotiations between the rivals went slowly at first. "We had to rebuild \x{2014} between our two companies, not just between Scott and I \x{2014} a level of trust," Mr. Ballmer said.

The fence-mending included a few rounds of golf Mr. McNealy played with Mr. Ballmer, which Mr. McNealy doubtless found reassuring. He is one of corporate America's best golfers.



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  10. 2004-04-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] Court ruling in Canada says music file swappin g is legal
  11. 2004-04-01 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] Court ruling in Canada says music file swappin
  12. 2004-04-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: More on Contracts [adrba-at-nyct.net]
  13. 2004-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Embperl programmer needed [nazgul-at-somewhere.com]
  14. 2004-04-01 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Subject: [hangout] Passover 2004
  15. 2004-04-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Study Provides 'Solid State' Stats
  16. 2004-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Embperl programmer needed [nazgul-at-mail.somewhere.com]
  17. 2004-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer (onsite), United States, NY, downtown NYC [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  18. 2004-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Press
  19. 2004-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [orgcom-mgmt] Minutes
  20. 2004-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] So much for the Java Desktop
  21. 2004-04-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] States Seek Common Ground On Open Source
  22. 2004-04-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Student Linux Project Mar 17th, 2004
  23. 2004-04-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fairuse] IBM cites Fair Use as an affirmative defense against SCO
  24. 2004-04-03 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting for Orgcom?
  25. 2004-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting for Orgcom?
  26. 2004-04-03 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] referrals needed
  27. 2004-04-04 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: referrals needed
  28. 2004-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
  29. 2004-04-05 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
  30. 2004-04-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
  31. 2004-04-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
  32. 2004-04-05 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FW: [fairuse-talk] RIAA
  33. 2004-04-05 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Happy Passover to all
  34. 2004-04-05 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Happy Passover to all
  35. 2004-04-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: LPI-US to Host 1st Annual CLUB LUG in New Orleans June 1 & 2 [elizabeth.beckham-at-usm.edu]
  36. 2004-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Passover to all
  37. 2004-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Study in the NY Times Proves File Sharing has zero
  38. 2004-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Study in the NY Times Proves File Sharing has zero impact on record sales
  39. 2004-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: Joint Statement about GNU/Linux Security]
  40. 2004-04-06 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: [DMCA_Discuss] It's official: File sharing is legal in Canad
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  42. 2004-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Study in the NY Times Proves File Sharing has zero impact on record sales
  43. 2004-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Joint Statement about GNU/Linux Security]
  44. 2004-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Analysis of Sun/MS settlement by the Financial Times
  45. 2004-04-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Looking for hw/sw guru (fwd)
  46. 2004-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Move the GNU/Linux Desktop on the rise
  47. 2004-04-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election
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  56. 2004-04-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Picture of Ed Center and Gnome Summit
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  58. 2004-04-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA-Activists] Boaters lost in marine chart fight
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  77. 2004-04-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Possible Partners and funding source
  78. 2004-04-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: pittance
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  86. 2004-04-12 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Possible Partners and funding source
  87. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  88. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  89. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  90. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  91. 2004-04-12 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  92. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  93. 2004-04-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: pittance
  94. 2004-04-12 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: pittance
  95. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  96. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: pittance
  97. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] When is the next meeting
  98. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Peter Norton Tape
  99. 2004-04-12 Peter Siegel <psiegel-at-copper.net> Subject: [hangout] When is the next meeting
  100. 2004-04-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [info-at-j2jnetwork.com: Job Leads (7) from the J2J Network]
  101. 2004-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  102. 2004-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Election
  103. 2004-04-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Possible Partners and funding source
  104. 2004-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Possible Partners and funding source
  105. 2004-04-13 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Possible Partners and funding source
  106. 2004-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  107. 2004-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [Perl Jobs] Search algorithm consultant (telecommute), United States, IN, Richmond [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  108. 2004-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Junior Perl Programmer (onsite), United States, New York, New York [jobs-admin-at-perl.org]
  109. 2004-04-14 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
  110. 2004-04-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Deadline Demo CD
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  114. 2004-04-14 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Election
  115. 2004-04-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Interview with Element Computer Regarding ION Linux
  116. 2004-04-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Experienced Systems Administrator (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  117. 2004-04-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [krahmer-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: cvs (SuSE-SA:2004:008)]
  118. 2004-04-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [paranoia-dev] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  119. 2004-04-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl / Sendmail expertise required (onsite), United States, New Jersey, Rutherford]
  120. 2004-04-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Group challenges Microsoft's patent for FAT file system
  121. 2004-04-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Latest Microsoft patches draw user ire
  122. 2004-04-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux vendors claim Forrester Report favored Microsoft
  123. 2004-04-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [orgcom-mgmt] next meeting reminder. (fwd)
  124. 2004-04-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moving technite
  125. 2004-04-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: OrgCom Sunday Afternoon
  126. 2004-04-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [orgcom-mgmt] next meeting reminder. (fwd)
  127. 2004-04-18 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  128. 2004-04-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  129. 2004-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  130. 2004-04-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  131. 2004-04-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  132. 2004-04-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  133. 2004-04-18 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Moving technite
  134. 2004-04-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bicycling for Fun and Profit
  135. 2004-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Desktops are in the news again
  136. 2004-04-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  137. 2004-04-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  138. 2004-04-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Sony Vaio RS410 Review - DONT BUY THIS PC
  139. 2004-04-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Sony Vaio RS410 Review - DONT BUY THIS PC
  140. 2004-04-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Sony Vaio RS410 Review - DONT BUY THIS PC
  141. 2004-04-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Election Nominations
  142. 2004-04-19 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fishing Tomorrow
  143. 2004-04-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Send Resume for "Web Developer" Position AT Midtown Manhattan, NYC [ali-at-247headhunting.com]
  144. 2004-04-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Insurance group: Linux free of copyright violations
  145. 2004-04-19 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Junior Perl programmer (onsite), United States, NY, New York
  146. 2004-04-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO investor wants out of deal
  147. 2004-04-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Sony Vaio RS410 Review - DONT BUY THIS PC
  148. 2004-04-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Brain Chips are coming
  149. 2004-04-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  150. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  151. 2004-04-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Dual Opteron.
  152. 2004-04-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Google and Yahoo Sites are down...
  153. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Google and Yahoo Sites are down...
  154. 2004-04-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  155. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  156. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  157. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  158. 2004-04-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  159. 2004-04-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  160. 2004-04-20 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  161. 2004-04-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Training for a Century Bike Ride
  162. 2004-04-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Training for a Century Bike Ride
  163. 2004-04-20 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Training for a Century Bike Ride
  164. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brain Chips are coming
  165. 2004-04-20 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dual Opteron.
  166. 2004-04-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Google and Yahoo Sites are down...
  167. 2004-04-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging David Sugar
  168. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  169. 2004-04-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Training for a Century Bike Ride
  170. 2004-04-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  171. 2004-04-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  172. 2004-04-21 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  173. 2004-04-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  174. 2004-04-21 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Mandrake 10.0
  175. 2004-04-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] [billy-at-mail.dadadada.net: cdparanoia: minor memory leak]
  176. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  177. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  178. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  179. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  180. 2004-04-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  181. 2004-04-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  182. 2004-04-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  183. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  184. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  185. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  186. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  187. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  188. 2004-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Dual Opteron.
  189. 2004-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mandrake 10.0
  190. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mandrake 10.0
  191. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] stat versus lstat
  192. 2004-04-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] stat versus lstat
  193. 2004-04-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  194. 2004-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  195. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Taking Out the Mothballs
  196. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [billy-at-mail.dadadada.net: cdparanoia: minor memory leak]
  197. 2004-04-22 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] [billy-at-mail.dadadada.net: cdparanoia: minor memory leak]
  198. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [billy-at-mail.dadadada.net: cdparanoia: minor memory leak]
  199. 2004-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] stat versus lstat
  200. 2004-04-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Windows Viruses
  201. 2004-04-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Debugging cdparanoia in C
  202. 2004-04-23 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] [billy-at-mail.dadadada.net: cdparanoia: minor memory leak]
  203. 2004-04-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night
  204. 2004-04-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Night
  205. 2004-04-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] firefox
  206. 2004-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Adam - hook this URL into the NYACSH site please
  207. 2004-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [orgcom-mgmt] OrgCom Minutes (Draft) [andrewschaaf-at-earthlink.net]
  208. 2004-04-24 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Quad Opteron support.
  209. 2004-04-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] N/A
  210. 2004-04-25 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] N/A
  211. 2004-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Techn Nite Sunday
  212. 2004-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Techn Nite Sunday
  213. 2004-04-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] A Standardized Open Source Network Authentication System
  214. 2004-04-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] A Sunny Forecast for Open-Source
  215. 2004-04-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Group Battling 'Dubious' Software Patents
  216. 2004-04-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell's SUSE Linux has landed
  217. 2004-04-27 Spidey309-at-aol.com Re: [hangout] Election (Nominations)
  218. 2004-04-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Turbolinux Announces First Linux Support for Micros oft
  219. 2004-04-27 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Election (absentee ballots)
  220. 2004-04-27 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Election (Nomination Results)
  221. 2004-04-27 Spidey309-at-aol.com Subject: [hangout] Election (Nominations)
  222. 2004-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Send Resume for "Web Developer" Position AT NYC [ali-at-247headhunting.com]
  223. 2004-04-27 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Pasha Akbar
  224. 2004-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Public Relations
  225. 2004-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The best thing since sliced bread - well almost
  226. 2004-04-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Turbolinux Announces First Linux Support for Microsoft Windows Me dia
  227. 2004-04-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Backs Off GPL Claims

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