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DATE 2004-07-26
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SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] A comparison of Damn Small Linux, Knoppix and PCLinuxOS Linux Liv e
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A comparison of Damn Small Linux, Knoppix and PCLinuxOS Linux Live CDs

http://www.tuxs.org/livecds.htm

Introduction

Live Linux CDs allow people to test Linux or try a distribution without any
hard drive installation, or carry Linux around in their pocket to use on any
computer. I have picked the top ranked Live CD from Distrowatch
for each of these three tasks to
review/compare. Knoppix 3.4 is the "test Linux"
live CD, PCLinuxOS 7a is the "try
before it before installing" live CD and Damn Small Linux
is the "pocket Linux" live CD. It should
be noted each of these live CDs can perform every task above and that there
are many other equally good live CDs - these are just the ones I have
picked.

I will try each live CD on an eMachines desktop with a 2.2 Ghz AMD CPU, 512
MB RAM and a USB wireless adapter and a Compaq laptop with a 2.2 Ghz AMD
CPU, 512MB RAM and onboard network card. Specifically I will look for
hardware detection (including my USB key), the time it takes to get to the
desktop from boot, if I can get on the internet, the software included and
the overall feel of the live CD.

To learn more about the basics of Live CDs see this page
.

Knoppix 3.4

Knoppix is the "mother" of live Linux CDs. It has
a reputation for excellent hardware detection and a huge selection of
software. Knoppix took 3 minutes to get to the desktop on the desktop 3
minutes 10 seconds on the laptop (this included a pause where it gives the
choice to remove the CD and shut down if you don't want to run the live CD -
a thoughtful touch). During the boot process there is a nice splash screen
and messages informing of the hardware detection progress. No password is
required and you are taken right to a nice looking KDE (3.2.2) desktop.

The first thing I noticed was my
hard drive and USB key had been mounted and icons created for them. Overall
the hardware detection was excellent with the only pieces of hardware not
found was the USB wireless adapter. Knoppix gets an extra point for
auto-mounting both the hard drive and USB key but loses a point as I wasn't
able to get internet access on either the desktop or the laptop. I'm not
sure of this was a hardware detection issue or an issue with my home network
setup. The variety software included with Knoppix is phenomenal: OpenOffice
(1.1.1), Mozilla (1.6), Mozilla Mail, Konquerer, GIMP, WINE, Remote Desktop
Connection, 9 different editors, over 30 games and a whole host of
development and graphics applications as well as system utilities. Most
applications also have a description by their name of what they do for
people unfamiliar with them - another nice touch and extra point for
Knoppix. Knoppix 3.4 also includes the 2.4 and 2.6 kernels.

Overall, Knoppix 3.4 deserves its excellent reputation and is perfect for
demonstrating the capabilities of Linux to new users. I would give Knoppix a
B+ grade.

PCLinuxOS 7a

PCLinuxOS could be described as
Mandrake Linux on one (live) CD. Mandrake
Linux being one of the most new user friendly distributions. It took 4
minutes to get to get to the login screen (the username and password
(guest:guest and root:root) being provided onscreen during a brief pause at
the beginning) and 25 seconds after that to get to the KDE (3.2.3) desktop
and 4 minutes 25 seconds and 35 seconds for each stage on the laptop.

The hardware detection was good, it found and mounted my USB key but failed
on the USB wireless adapter on the desktop. The partitions on the hard drive
were also found and mounted however no icons were placed on the desktop as
with Knoppix. Hardware detection was perfect on the laptop.

PCLinuxOS includes one of each
application type and these tend to be generally the most mainstream ones
(such as OpenOffice and Mozilla Firefox). Where as Knoppix shows the wide
range of Linux applications available to people, PCLinuxOS doesn't force
people have to decide which unfamiliar application to choose for each task.
PCLinuxOS includes the excellent Control Centers for system administration -
these are so intuitive that even my Aunt Jane could use them without help.

PCLinuxOS live CD really is designed for trying before you install it. So I
also tried installing PCLinuxOS and must say it is the most "Aunt Jane"
proof operating system install I have ever done. It took 6 clicks, 15
minutes and picked all the right defaults. The only thing I would say is
that I really wouldn't run PCLinuxOS on a box with less than 256 MB RAM.

To finish, I would suggest PCLinuxOS to a brand new Linux user who said "I
want to install Linux but would really like to give it a quick test drive
first." It really is ideal for the first time user to run on their PC. I
would give PCLinuxOS an A- grade.

Damn Small Linux 0.72

Damn Small Linux could be described as,
erm, damn small! The goal of the project is to have a bootable business card
CD with a desktop and applications in less than 50 MB of space.

The start up process took 1 minute 15 seconds on the desktop and 1 minute 10
seconds on the laptop. As it is starting up you are asked which xserver to
use, if you have a USB mouse, your preferred screen resolution, color depth
and DPI. There is no login. It did detect the USB key but not the USB
wireless adapter, so once again I give a point and take another one away. It
did not auto mount any drives however it does include a nice mounting
application to help you do it.

The desktop Damn Small Linux
uses is Fluxbox. When Fluxbox starts it opens an FAQ document automatically
as it works slightly differently to most desktops. It doesn't have a "start"
button, instead applications are selected by right-clicking and the multiple
desktops are navigated with "VCR" buttons. Fluxbox doesn't take long to get
used to and is really very nice to use. Its look can even be customized by
right-clicking and going to Desktop > Styles. Damn Small Linux includes the
Dillo browser, the Ted word processor, the Sylpheed email client, Xpaint,
shells, editors, several different games as well as system monitoring tools.


All in all, Damn Small Linux is a nice live CD Linux distribution. If you
take in to account its size it is very very good indeed. Given the questions
asked during start up and the slightly different desktop I would recommend
Damn Small Linux only to people that are already comfortable with computers
and operating systems. I would suggest Damn Small Linux for running on older
computers. I give Damn Small Linux a B+ grade.

Conclusion

All the live CDs I looked at performed very well indeed. I would recommend
that you try any of them particularly since one of the huge strengths of
live CDs is they don't touch your hard drive and thus are virtually risk
free. I only touched the surface of all the live CDs available and what they
are capable of doing. I would also suggest taking a look at MEPIS
, SLAX or the
complete list of live CDs at Frozentech
.

Barney Matthews



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A comparison of Damn Small Linux, Knoppix and PCLinuxOS Linux
Live CDs



Introduction


Live Linux CDs allow people to test Linux or try a distribution without any
hard drive installation, or carry Linux around in their pocket to use on any
computer. I have picked the top ranked Live CD from href="http://www.distrowatch.com/">Distrowatch for each of these three tasks
to review/compare. Knoppix
3.4
is the "test Linux" live CD, href="http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos">PCLinuxOS 7a is the "try before it
before installing" live CD and href="http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/">Damn Small Linux is the "pocket Linux"
live CD. It should be noted each of these live CDs can perform every task above
and that there are many other equally good live CDs - these are just the ones I
have picked.


I will try each live CD on an eMachines desktop with a 2.2 Ghz AMD CPU, 512
MB RAM and a USB wireless adapter and a Compaq laptop with a 2.2 Ghz AMD CPU,
512MB RAM and onboard network card. Specifically I will look for hardware
detection (including my USB key), the time it takes to get to the desktop from
boot, if I can get on the internet, the software included and the overall feel
of the live CD.


To learn more about the basics of Live CDs see href="http://www.tuxs.org/trylinux.htm">this page.


Knoppix 3.4


Knoppix is the "mother"
of live Linux CDs. It has a reputation for excellent hardware detection and a
huge selection of software. Knoppix took 3 minutes to get to the desktop on the
desktop 3 minutes 10 seconds on the laptop (this included a pause where it gives
the choice to remove the CD and shut down if you don't want to run the live CD -
a thoughtful touch). During the boot process there is a nice splash screen and
messages informing of the hardware detection progress. No password is required
and you are taken right to a nice looking KDE (3.2.2) desktop.


The first
thing I noticed was my hard drive and USB key had been mounted and icons created
for them. Overall the hardware detection was excellent with the only pieces of
hardware not found was the USB wireless adapter. Knoppix gets an extra point for
auto-mounting both the hard drive and USB key but loses a point as I wasn't able
to get internet access on either the desktop or the laptop. I'm not sure of this
was a hardware detection issue or an issue with my home network setup. The
variety software included with Knoppix is phenomenal: OpenOffice (1.1.1),
Mozilla (1.6), Mozilla Mail, Konquerer, GIMP, WINE, Remote Desktop Connection, 9
different editors, over 30 games and a whole host of development and graphics
applications as well as system utilities. Most applications also have a
description by their name of what they do for people unfamiliar with them -
another nice touch and extra point for Knoppix. Knoppix 3.4 also includes the
2.4 and 2.6 kernels.


Overall, Knoppix 3.4 deserves its excellent reputation and is perfect for
demonstrating the capabilities of Linux to new users. I would give Knoppix a B+
grade.


PCLinuxOS 7a


PCLinuxOS
could be described as href="http://www.linux-mandrake.com/">Mandrake Linux on one (live) CD.
Mandrake Linux being one of the most new user friendly distributions. It took 4
minutes to get to get to the login screen (the username and password
(guest:guest and root:root) being provided onscreen during a brief pause at the
beginning) and 25 seconds after that to get to the KDE (3.2.3) desktop and 4
minutes 25 seconds and 35 seconds for each stage on the laptop.


The hardware detection was good, it found and mounted my USB key but failed
on the USB wireless adapter on the desktop. The partitions on the hard drive
were also found and mounted however no icons were placed on the desktop as with
Knoppix. Hardware detection was perfect on the laptop.


PCLinuxOS
includes one of each application type and these tend to be generally the most
mainstream ones (such as OpenOffice and Mozilla Firefox). Where as Knoppix shows
the wide range of Linux applications available to people, PCLinuxOS doesn't
force people have to decide which unfamiliar application to choose for each
task. PCLinuxOS includes the excellent Control Centers for system administration
- these are so intuitive that even my Aunt Jane could use them without help.


PCLinuxOS live CD really is designed for trying before you install it. So I
also tried installing PCLinuxOS and must say it is the most "Aunt Jane" proof
operating system install I have ever done. It took 6 clicks, 15 minutes and
picked all the right defaults. The only thing I would say is that I really
wouldn't run PCLinuxOS on a box with less than 256 MB RAM.


To finish, I would suggest PCLinuxOS to a brand new Linux user who said "I
want to install Linux but would really like to give it a quick test drive
first." It really is ideal for the first time user to run on their PC. I would
give PCLinuxOS an A- grade.


Damn Small Linux 0.72


Damn Small Linux
could be described as, erm, damn small! The goal of the project is to have a
bootable business card CD with a desktop and applications in less than 50 MB of
space.


The start up process took 1 minute 15 seconds on the desktop and 1 minute 10
seconds on the laptop. As it is starting up you are asked which xserver to use,
if you have a USB mouse, your preferred screen resolution, color depth and DPI.
There is no login. It did detect the USB key but not the USB wireless adapter,
so once again I give a point and take another one away. It did not auto mount
any drives however it does include a nice mounting application to help you do
it.


The
desktop Damn Small Linux uses is Fluxbox. When Fluxbox starts it opens an FAQ
document automatically as it works slightly differently to most desktops. It
doesn't have a "start" button, instead applications are selected by
right-clicking and the multiple desktops are navigated with "VCR" buttons.
Fluxbox doesn't take long to get used to and is really very nice to use. Its
look can even be customized by right-clicking and going to Desktop > Styles.
Damn Small Linux includes the Dillo browser, the Ted word processor, the
Sylpheed email client, Xpaint, shells, editors, several different games as well
as system monitoring tools.


All in all, Damn Small Linux is a nice live CD Linux distribution. If you
take in to account its size it is very very good indeed. Given the questions
asked during start up and the slightly different desktop I would recommend Damn
Small Linux only to people that are already comfortable with computers and
operating systems. I would suggest Damn Small Linux for running on older
computers. I give Damn Small Linux a B+ grade.


Conclusion


All the live CDs I looked at performed very well indeed. I would recommend
that you try any of them particularly since one of the huge strengths of live
CDs is they don't touch your hard drive and thus are virtually risk free. I only
touched the surface of all the live CDs available and what they are capable of
doing. I would also suggest taking a look at href="http://www.mepis.org/">MEPIS, href="http://slax.linux-live.org/">SLAX or the complete list of live CDs at
href="http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php">Frozentech


Barney Matthews





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  21. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCHOOLS FAIL OUR CHILDREN
  22. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] A comparison of Damn Small Linux, Knoppix and PCLinuxOS Linux Liv e
  23. 2004-07-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Windows takes on multiple roles
  24. 2004-07-25 einker-at-gam.com Subject: [hangout] Windows takes on multiple roles
  25. 2004-07-25 einker-at-gam.com Subject: [hangout] Windows takes on multiple roles
  26. 2004-07-25 From: "Evan Inker" <einker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Week Online Story: How Microsoft Can Embrace Linux
  27. 2004-07-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "No Subject" BUG in Kmail - Watch Out!!!!
  28. 2004-07-23 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] "No Subject" BUG in Kmail - Watch Out!!!!
  29. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  30. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  31. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  32. 2004-07-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  33. 2004-07-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  34. 2004-07-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  35. 2004-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  36. 2004-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] 5% of all PCs in 2004 shipped with Linux
  37. 2004-07-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  38. 2004-07-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  39. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  40. 2004-07-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  41. 2004-07-22 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  42. 2004-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  43. 2004-07-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  44. 2004-07-22 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  45. 2004-07-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Volunteers Needed for New User Days]
  46. 2004-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video 1 step forward
  47. 2004-07-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video 1 step forward
  48. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Trademark on Windows caused a settlement in favor of Lindows
  49. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn Freedom
  50. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Perl Jobs] Programmer Analyst, CT, Stamford
  51. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Suse 9.1 Review
  52. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Outreach
  53. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  54. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  55. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  56. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  57. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  58. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  59. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  60. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  61. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  62. 2004-07-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] via voice
  63. 2004-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: php4 (SUSE-SA:2004:021) [krahmer-at-suse.de]
  64. 2004-07-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Senators serious about DMCA fair use (fwd)
  65. 2004-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] great job Rob
  66. 2004-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] great job Rob
  67. 2004-07-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] great job Rob
  68. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs in Brooklyn for real cash
  69. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  70. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  71. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  72. 2004-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  73. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  74. 2004-07-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] leaving for the killarny
  75. 2004-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Since I haven't contributed in a while...
  76. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  77. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  78. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  79. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  80. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  81. 2004-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  82. 2004-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  83. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  84. 2004-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS inservice on Kerberos5, Cyrus SASL, OpenLDAP
  85. 2004-07-14 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS inservice on Kerberos5, Cyrus SASL, OpenLDAP
  86. 2004-07-14 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  87. 2004-07-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  88. 2004-07-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hack-proof and crash resistant - have you discovered the OS world 's
  89. 2004-07-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] How Linux Boots (Article)
  90. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Vendor uses DMCA to bar third-party support contracts (fwd)
  91. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Vendor uses DMCA to bar third-party support contracts
  92. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Trip to hear Ruben
  93. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Trip to hear Ruben
  94. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW:Infoworld: Is Content Control Constitutional? (fwd)
  95. 2004-07-14 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [Perl Jobs] Web Programmer for Mason-based e-commerce site (telecommute)
  96. 2004-07-14 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] dev null route windows
  97. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW:Infoworld: Is Content Control Constitutional? (fwd)
  98. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  99. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl/TemplateToolkit/Oracle Web Developer (onsite), United States, NY, Rochester]
  100. 2004-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FW:Infoworld: Is Content Control Constitutional? (fwd)
  101. 2004-07-13 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  102. 2004-07-13 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  103. 2004-07-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes begin tonight
  104. 2004-07-13 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Classes begin tonight
  105. 2004-07-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] DNS Question
  106. 2004-07-13 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: This Wed. Gnubies - Intro to Securing Your Email: Encryption
  107. 2004-07-13 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> FW: [hangout] Mike, take a look, NYDailyNews-Boroughs-Civic group
  108. 2004-07-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DNS Question
  109. 2004-07-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] DNS Question
  110. 2004-07-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mike, take a look, NYDailyNews-Boroughs-Civic groups go hi-tech with donated PCs
  111. 2004-07-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DNS Question
  112. 2004-07-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Glimmer of hope in copyright measures
  113. 2004-07-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System
  114. 2004-07-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System
  115. 2004-07-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Day write up - again
  116. 2004-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bettina_Faltermeier-at-mcgraw-hill.com: Publisher Partnership Invitatio
  117. 2004-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite
  118. 2004-07-11 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite
  119. 2004-07-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite
  120. 2004-07-10 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [TechForum] Gender Equity and F/OSS: New book submissions requested
  121. 2004-07-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  122. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Commentary: Why Dell is scurrying to cover its tracks in Linspire
  123. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  124. 2004-07-09 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  125. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  126. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] UNIGROUP Field Trip Meeting: 15-JUL-2004: Solaris 10 Launch Event
  127. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Getting to Know Linux Class - July 24, 2004 (NYPC)
  128. 2004-07-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] HOPE 2600 This weekend (NYC)] (fwd)
  129. 2004-07-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] HOPE 2600 This weekend (NYC)] (fwd)
  130. 2004-07-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] who is our contact at novell
  131. 2004-07-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for
  132. 2004-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for Free
  133. 2004-07-08 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux =?iso-8859-1?q?for=09Free?=
  134. 2004-07-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] HOPE 2600 This weekend (NYC)] (fwd)
  135. 2004-07-08 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for Free
  136. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Anti-Spam Web Site (Great Info)
  137. 2004-07-08 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] who is our contact at novell
  138. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New 1G Email Service Available - www.walla.com
  139. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for Free
  140. 2004-07-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video Recording
  141. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Video Recording
  142. 2004-07-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video Recording
  143. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linix Users Group/In Princeton
  144. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Trip to Princeton
  145. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linix Users Group/In Princeton
  146. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In-service
  147. 2004-07-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Freedom Day Contribution
  148. 2004-07-07 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] In-service
  149. 2004-07-07 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] In-service
  150. 2004-07-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dell to Offer Linux-Loaded PCs in Europe (fwd)
  151. 2004-07-06 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] changing date of ldap inservice
  152. 2004-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] changing date of ldap inservice
  153. 2004-07-06 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] changing date of ldap inservice
  154. 2004-07-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux, Still an Awkward Alternative (Washington Post)
  155. 2004-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a COMPLETE Piece of ...
  156. 2004-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a COMPLETE Piece of ...
  157. 2004-07-05 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: [politics] France has only 800 soldiers in Afghanistan]
  158. 2004-07-04 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] blowing up Small Schools
  159. 2004-07-04 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] In Service Program
  160. 2004-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hunter College has Linux Courses!
  161. 2004-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] In Service Program
  162. 2004-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  163. 2004-07-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  164. 2004-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  165. 2004-07-01 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  166. 2004-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] forwarding mail
  167. 2004-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jays-at-panix.com: [orgcom-mgmt] puck info for orgcom mailing list (fwd)

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