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Date: Sunday, 18 July 2004


There've been many Linux distributions, among them RedHat, Mandrake,
Slackware, and of course SuSE, now with Novell.

Author: Bob Ratliff
Category: Software
d=2&id=19&Itemid=29> / Drivers
Supplier: Suse gmBH

In the year 1991 at Helsinki, Finland, Linux Torvalds, a 21 year old, sandy
haired youth who liked to play with computers and push the limits of their
design, awoke the sleeping penguin that is now known as Linux.

SuSE was founded in 1992 and released their first distribution in 1993.
Since then, the company has grown and in January of 2004, the Novell
corporation of networking fame bought into the company. This marks a major
change for the Linux community since Novell can add years of networking
experience to the codebase used by developers and strengthen some of the
code where needed.

SuSE 9.1 marks the first distribution with Novell and will show the
direction that SuSE will be taking in the future.




Hardware Requirements

SuSE Linux supports most PC hardware components. A detailed list is
available at http://cdb.suse.de . The following
minimum requirements should be met to ensure its smooth operation:

Processor: Pentium
1-4; AMD Duron, Athlon,
Athlon XP, Athlon MP, Athlon 64

Main memory: at
least 128 MB recommended

Hard Disk: at
least 400 MB, 2 GB recommended

Sound and Graphics
cards: SuSE Linux supports most modern sound and graphics cards. Check the
compatibility database above for more detail.

Some of what SuSE ships with:

Core Technologies and Features


Kernel 2.6


Improved power
management [ACPI]
Even Better
process performance, especially for multimedia
New Posix Thread
Library [NPTL]
Faster CD/DVD
Burning and audio CD reading
Automatic mounting
via submount

KDE 3.2

Personal
information manager: Kontact
Instant messenger:
Kopete
Password safe:
KWallet
Universal sidebar
System wide mouse
gestures
Quanta now with
WYSIWYG editor
UML modeler
KDevelop 3.0
Desktop Sharing
Framework [VNC]
Spell checking for
web forms and email
New network
browser
Faster start-up of
KDE
Simplified menus

Gnome 2.4

Improved usability
Better
accessibility
Gimp 2.0 pre

Samba 3.0

Better integration
in heterogeneous networks
Integration of
Linux clients in Windows domains
Flexibility
through virtual Samba server

YaST2

Improved usability
and help
ACPI module for
configuring the power management
Server functions
for home networks: Apache web server,
DHCP, DNS, TFTP, Samba, NFS, NIS
System doctor
[YaST repair module]

Other core components

glibc with NPTL
support, GCC 3.3.3

Author: Bob Ratliff
Category: Software
d=2&id=19&Itemid=29> / Drivers
Supplier: Suse gmBH

New Software

SuSE comes with a plethora of end-user software, including:

Kontact - PIM with
integrated KMail, KOrganizer,
KAddressbook, KNotes
Juk - extremely
fast, smart manager for large amounts of music
Rekall - database
application with comfortable GUI,similar to MS Access*
Textmaker +
planmaker [beta] - Free version of text processing and spreadsheet
applications, compatible with Word* and Excel*

Other Software

OpenOffice.org 1.1
[free version of StarOffice 7]
Sound and video
players
Burning tools for
data and audio CDs
Extensive
collection of audio tools
Desktop publishing
Project management
Digital video
recorder
Palm synchronizer
SuSE help system

For this article, we used the following setup:

AMD XP 2200+
512 Mb PC 2100 DDR
20 Gig Seagate
Baracuda drive
GeForce 4 MX AGP
Realtek ALC650
Sound System




Installation


The installation of Linux, like other operating systems, should not be taken
lightly. This incarnation of SuSE Linux, like previous versions, uses a GUI
style install that is easy to follow and doesn't look like it was written by
bored engineers who forgot about end users.

Simply select the language and packages, and partition the drive. You'll
soon be off and running on the install. An advanced installation can take
over an hour, so pop a good DVD into the set-top and sit back and relax. As
with Windows, there's a slide show introduction during installation. If
you've never used Linux before I would advise watching the loop at least
once.


> After the software is installed comes configuration. The start is setting
the password for root, the main system administrator. Make SURE that you do
not use this account as a regular system account. If you do, it's at your
own risk. Linux is not as forgiving as Windows: if you do something
detrimental to the system as root, such as deleting the / directory, the
system will need to be re-installed.

Having set the root password, configure your network and users. After that,
it's time to boot into the OS.

With the system that I installed it on, everything worked just fine except
for the audio--which I found out later was not the fault of the hardware or
SuSE. It seems that ALSA, or the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture package,
is not working correctly yet with Kernel 2.6. This can be fixed by using an
older kernel or just waiting on a new version of ALSA.

Setting up servers is very easy. You just need the information on hand to
type into the various fields for each server. I had a web server up and
running with PHP and MySQL within 5 minutes of my install. Samba, on the
other hand, proved to be a little more difficult for me. My home network is
a little odd, so getting Samba to work took a little playing around.

GiMP, the GNU Image Manipulation Program, is a very powerful graphics
package that could eventually rival Adobe Photoshop. It has a lot of the
same features of Photoshop, plus some new ones.


ory.gif> Gaming

I know a lot of people are wanting to switch to Linux for gaming purposes
because of the promise of true multitasking--which will give a tremendous
boost to the speed of the game and, in a lot of cases, to the frame rates.
While this is true, the software base for gaming is pretty slim. It seems
that most high-end games are for Windows/Mac only, due to the fact that most
games today use DirectX which does not work with Linux.

There are some good games available though, such as Quake 3, Unreal
if> Tournament 2004, Return to Castle Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory, and
some others. I have played Enemy Territory under Linux and I must say that
I like it better than under Windows. It is faster and smoother.

The only problem with gaming that I have found so far is the fact that
Radeon drivers are almost impossible to get working properly the first time.
It seems that you have to re-compile the kernel and customize some options
to get it to work. I never managed to get my 9600 Pro working. So, I
switched back to my trustworthy GeForce MX 440 and everything works just
fine.

Music

Whether or not you want to play music or create music, Linux has a lot to
offer. SuSE ships with several media player packages, among them XMMS and
Juk. XMMS is very similar in appearance and function to Winamp. It will
even use the same skins so that all you Windows theme lovers can customize
it with your favorite Winamp look.

Digital Photography


SuSE also comes with a lot of graphics packages, GiMP being my favorite.
With GiMP, you can clean up your photographs that you import from your
camera, crop them, zoom them, and add special effects just as you would with
Photoshop.

There are also a couple of photoalbum packages that ship with SuSE. Among
them is Kalbum, which is a good album package, allowing capture of the
images straight from camera to the album. You can also directly manage the
photos on a camera with it. There is an extensive list of cameras that it
will work with.

Office/Productivity

SuSE ships with a lot of office apps and suites. OpenOffice.org 1.1 has to
be my favorite of the lot. With it, you can Open and Save files in various
office
ss.gif> formats, including Word and Excel. For those who need to work with
Microsoft Office documents, this offers true cross-platform compatibility.
KOffice is another good package, which is designed for KDE but will work in
the other desktop environments as well.

For those of us who use them, groupware packages have become a must. SuSE
ships with Kontact, which is a groupware package for KDE and it includes an
address book, email capability, to-do list, calendar, and a notes package.
It operates and feels very much like Microsoft Outlook, although I don't
think it is compatable with Outlook files.

MrProject is a project managment package that ships with SuSE and is very
useful for those of us who work as consultants. It will keep time for
various projects as well as map out project flow. It has support for
multiple projects that can be tied together to give an overall look at the
entire plan, or you can look at each small sub-project.

Rekall has to be one of my favorites. It is a DBMS package very similar to
Microsoft Access. You can build forms and databases to create database
applications. For those who run their own business and would like to have
everything moved to Linux, this is one of the easiest ways to go. You can
make your AR/AP/GL databases with this and design an interface that is just
what you want. It has support for multiple database engines, so you can
have a choice of how the data is stored to maximize compatibility with other
packages.

You won't find a much better assortment of office packages anywhere.

Documentation

You would think that with SuSE being a German company that the documentation
would look like it was translated from another language like so many other
products from foreign countries, but that is an assumption that SuSE has
definitely proven wrong.

SuSE ships with a 529 page Administration guide and 445 page User guide.
Both guides are very well written and contain enough information that if you
need help with some task or problem you don't have to spend a couple of
hours wading through a multitude of hits on a search engine to find the
answer.

Conclusion

The gaming capability of Linux, while still in its infancy, is growing every
day. The inclusion of the nVidia GeForce drivers in its online update link
is very handy. Now, if only ATi would get on the bandwagon and open its
drivers up so that they could be included.

The office applications that ship with SuSE are top shelf, and should be
considered as such. They can do most of what the big Windows packages can
do and in some cases do them better. I know they seem to me to do them
faster.

The graphics applications are as good as if not better than the commercial
applications that you can buy for Windows in some ways, and since the
software is open-source, they can be modified and improved upon very easily
by those with the knowledge to do so.

The sound apps are very well written and very efficient. Sound quality
depends on the hardware, of course, but the features of the software rival
those of some of the commercial packages that I use in Windows.

SuSE has an excellent on-line update system similar to that offered by other
operating systems and is very efficient in the way that it handles both
updates and installation. In the KDE desktop environment, there is an icon
in the task bar to show when a new update is available and what it is for.
It will even tell you if there is any prerequisite software for it to
function properly.

All in all, I feel that SuSE Linux is the Lincoln of Linux. Of all the
distributions that I've used, SuSE is the most complete and easy to install
distribution. It may not have the large file base of Debian, but is a heck
of a lot easier to install and administer. It will serve you well as a
Desktop or Server OS. I know that it will be a long while before anything
else replaces it on my system.







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line=20
border=3D0> KDevelop 3.0
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Desktop Sharing Framework [VNC]
3D""=3D0=20
src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Spell checking for web forms and email
3D""hspace=3D0=20
src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> New network browser
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Faster start-up of KDE
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Simplified menus


Gnome 2.4



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Improved usability
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Better accessibility
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Gimp 2.0 pre


Samba 3.0



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Better integration in heterogeneous networks
<BR=3D""=20
hspace=3D0 src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif"=
align=3Dbaseline border=3D0> Integration of Linux clients in Window=
s=20
domains
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Flexibility through virtual Samba server


YaST2



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Improved usability and help
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbas=
eline=20
border=3D0> ACPI module for configuring the power management
alt=3D""=20
hspace=3D0 src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif"=
align=3Dbaseline border=3D0> Server functions for home networks: Ap=
ache web=20
server,
   DHCP, DNS, TFTP, Samba, NFS, NIS
3D""=<BR hspace=3D0 src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif"=
align=3Dbaseline border=3D0> System doctor [YaST repair=20
module]


Other core components



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> glibc with NPTL support, GCC 3.3.3



Author: Bob=20
Ratliff

Category: href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/index.php?option=3Dcontent&task=3Dc=
ategory&sectionid=3D2&id=3D19&Itemid=3D29">Software=20
/ Drivers
Supplier: >Suse=20
gmBH


New Software


SuSE comes with a plethora of end-user software,&n=
bsp;=20
including:



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Kontact - PIM with integrated KMail, KOrganizer,
&nbs=
p;=20
 KAddressbook, KNotes
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Juk - extremely fast, smart manager for large amounts=20
of music
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Rekall - database application with comfortable GUI,simil=
ar to=20
MS Access*
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Textmaker + planmaker [beta] - Free version of=20
text processing and spreadsheet applications, compatible with W=
ord*=20
and Excel*


Other Software



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> OpenOffice.org 1.1 [free version of StarOffice=20
7]
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Sound and video players
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Burning tools for data and audio CDs
3D""pace=3D0=20
src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Extensive collection of audio tools
3D""ace=3D0=20
src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Desktop publishing
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Project management
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Digital video recorder
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Palm synchronizer
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> SuSE help system


For this article, we used the following setup:



3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> AMD XP 2200+
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> 512 Mb PC 2100 DDR
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> 20 Gig Seagate Baracuda drive
3D""0=20
src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> GeForce 4 MX AGP
3D"" src=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/arrow.gif" align=3Dbase=
line=20
border=3D0> Realtek ALC650 Sound System



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bgColor=3D#ffffff border=3D0>





Installation


href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/Software/SuSE_91=
-Pro/yast.gif">The=20
installation of Linux, like other operating systems, should not be =
taken=20
lightly.  This incarnation of SuSE Linux, like previous versio=
ns,=20
uses a GUI style install that is easy to follow and doesn't look li=
ke it=20
was written by bored engineers who forgot about end users.


Simply select the language and packages, and partition the=20
drive.  You'll soon be off and running on the install.  A=
n=20
advanced installation can take over an hour, so pop a good DVD=
into=20
the set-top and sit back and relax.  As with Windows=
,=20
there's a slide show introduction during installation.  If you=
've=20
never used Linux before I would advise watching the loop at least=
once.


href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/Software/SuSE_91=
-Pro/firefox.gif">After=20
the software is installed comes configuration.  The=
start is setting the password for root, the main system=20
administrator.  Make SURE that you do not use this account as =
a=20
regular system account.  If you do, it's at your own risk.&nbs=
p;=20
Linux is not as forgiving as Windows: if you do something=20
detrimental to the system as root, such as deleting the / directory=
, the=20
system will need to be re-installed.


Having set the root password, configure your network and users.&=
nbsp;=20
After that, it's time to boot into the OS.


With the system that I installed it on, everything worked just f=
ine=20
except for the audio--which I found out later was not the faul=
t of=20
the hardware or SuSE.  It seems that ALSA, or the Advanced Lin=
ux=20
Sound Architecture package, is not working correctly yet with=
Kernel 2.6. This can be fixed by using an older kernel or jus=
t=20
waiting on a new version of ALSA.



Setting up servers is very easy.  You just need the=20
information on hand to type into the various fields for each=20
server.  I had a web server up and running with PHP and MySQL=
within 5 minutes of my install.  Samba, on the other hand, pr=
oved=20
to be a little more difficult for me.  My home network is a li=
ttle=20
odd, so getting Samba to work took a little playing around.  <=
/P>

GiMP, the GNU Image Manipulation Program, is a very powerful gra=
phics=20
package that could eventually rival Adobe Photoshop.  It has a=
lot=20
of the same features of Photoshop, plus some new ones.


href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/Software/SuSE_91=
-Pro/enemyterritory.gif">Gaming


I know a lot of people are wanting to switch to Linux for gaming=
purposes because of the promise of true multitasking--which will g=
ive a=20
tremendous boost to the speed of the game and, in a lot of=20
cases, to the frame rates.  While this is true, the=
software base for gaming is pretty slim.  It seems that most=
high-end games are for Windows/Mac only, due to the fact that most=
games=20
today use DirectX which does not work with Linux.


There are some good games available though, such as Quake 3, Unr=
eal=20
href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/Software/SuSE_91=
-Pro/mydesktop.gif">Tournament=20
2004, Return to Castle Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory, and some=20
others.  I have played Enemy Territory under Linux and I must =
say=20
that I like it better  than under Windows.  It is faster =
and=20
smoother.


The only problem with gaming that I have found so far is the fac=
t=20
that Radeon drivers are almost impossible to get working properly t=
he=20
first time.  It seems that you have to re-compile the kernel a=
nd=20
customize some options to get it to work.  I never managed to =
get=20
my 9600 Pro working.  So, I switched back to my trustworthy Ge=
Force=20
MX 440 and everything works just fine.


Music


Whether or not you want to play music or create music, Linux has=
a=20
lot to offer.  SuSE ships with several media player packages, =
among=20
them XMMS and Juk.  XMMS is very similar in appearance and fun=
ction=20
to Winamp.   It will even use the same skins so that all =
you=20
Windows theme lovers can customize it with your favorite Winamp=20
look. 


Digital Photography


href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/Software/SuSE_91=
-Pro/gimp.gif">SuSE=20
also comes with a lot of graphics packages, GiMP being my=20
favorite.  With GiMP, you can clean up your photographs that y=
ou=20
import from your camera, crop them, zoom them, and add special effe=
cts=20
just as you would with Photoshop.


There are also a couple of photoalbum packages that ship with=20
SuSE.  Among them is Kalbum, which is a good album package,=20
allowing capture of the images straight from camera to the=20
album.  You can also directly manage the photos on a came=
ra=20
with it. There is an extensive list of cameras that it will wo=
rk=20
with.



Office/Productivity


SuSE ships with a lot of office apps and suites.  OpenOffic=
e.org=20
1.1 has to be my favorite of the lot.  With it, you can Open a=
nd=20
Save files in various office href=3D"http://www.ipkonfig.com/cms/images/stories/Software/SuSE_91=
-Pro/openoffice-ss.gif">formats,=20
including Word and Excel.  For those who need to work with=20
Microsoft Office documents, this offers true cross-platform=20
compatibility.  KOffice is another good package, which is desi=
gned=20
for KDE but will work in the other desktop environments as well.&nb=
sp;=20


For those of us who use them, groupware packages have become a=
must.  SuSE ships with Kontact, which is a groupware package =
for=20
KDE and it includes an address book, email capability, to-do list,=
calendar, and a notes package.  It operates and feels=20
very much like Microsoft Outlook, although I don't think it is=
compatable with Outlook files.


MrProject is a project managment package that ships with SuSE an=
d is=20
very useful for those of us who work as consultants.  It =
will=20
keep time for various projects as well as map out project flow.&nbs=
p; It=20
has support for multiple projects that can be tied together to give=
an=20
overall look at the entire plan, or you can look at each =
small=20
sub-project.


Rekall has to be one of my favorites.  It is a DBMS package=
very=20
similar to Microsoft Access.  You can build forms and database=
s to=20
create database applications.  For those who run their own bus=
iness=20
and would like to have everything moved to Linux, this is one of th=
e=20
easiest ways to go.  You can make your AR/AP/GL databases with=
this=20
and design an interface that is just what you want.  It has su=
pport=20
for multiple database engines, so you can have a choice of how the =
data=20
is stored to maximize compatibility with other packages.


You won't find a much better assortment of office packages=20
anywhere.


Documentation


You would think that with SuSE being a German company that the=
documentation would look like it was translated from another langu=
age=20
like so many other products from foreign countries, but that is an=
assumption that SuSE has definitely proven wrong. 


SuSE ships with a 529 page Administration guide and 445 page Use=
r=20
guide.  Both guides are very well written and contain enough=
information that if you need help with some task or problem you do=
n't=20
have to spend a couple of hours wading through a multitude of =
hits=20
on a search engine to find the answer.


Conclusion


The gaming capability of Linux, while still in its infancy,=
is=20
growing every day.  The inclusion of the nVidia GeForce=
drivers in its online update link is very handy.  Now, if onl=
y ATi=20
would get on the bandwagon and open its drivers up so tha=
t=20
they could be included.


The office applications that ship with SuSE are top shelf, and s=
hould=20
be considered as such.  They can do most of what the big Windo=
ws=20
packages can do and in some cases do them better.  I=
know=20
they seem to me to do them faster.


The graphics applications are as good as if not better than the=
commercial applications that you can buy for Windows in some ways,=
and=20
since the software is open-source, they can be modified and=20
improved upon very easily by those with the knowledge to do so=
.


The sound apps are very well written and very efficient.  S=
ound=20
quality depends on the hardware, of course, but the features of the=
software rival those of some of the commercial packages that =
I use=20
in Windows.


SuSE has an excellent on-line update system similar to that offe=
red=20
by other operating systems and is very efficient in the way that it=
handles both updates and installation.  In the KDE deskt=
op=20
environment, there is an icon in the task bar to show when a new up=
date=20
is available and what it is for.  It will even tell you if=20
there is any prerequisite software for it to function properly=
.


All in all, I feel that SuSE Linux is the Lincoln of Linux. =
; Of=20
all the distributions that I've used, SuSE is the most complete and=
easy=20
to install distribution.  It may not have the large file base =
of=20
Debian, but is a heck of a lot easier to install and administer.&nb=
sp;=20
It will serve you well as a Desktop or Server OS.  I know that=
it=20
will be a long while before anything else replaces it on my=20
system.

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  53. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  54. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  55. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  56. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  57. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  58. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  59. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  60. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  61. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  62. 2004-07-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] via voice
  63. 2004-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: php4 (SUSE-SA:2004:021) [krahmer-at-suse.de]
  64. 2004-07-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Senators serious about DMCA fair use (fwd)
  65. 2004-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] great job Rob
  66. 2004-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] great job Rob
  67. 2004-07-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] great job Rob
  68. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs in Brooklyn for real cash
  69. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  70. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  71. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  72. 2004-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  73. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  74. 2004-07-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] leaving for the killarny
  75. 2004-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Since I haven't contributed in a while...
  76. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  77. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  78. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  79. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  80. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  81. 2004-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  82. 2004-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  83. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  84. 2004-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS inservice on Kerberos5, Cyrus SASL, OpenLDAP
  85. 2004-07-14 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS inservice on Kerberos5, Cyrus SASL, OpenLDAP
  86. 2004-07-14 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  87. 2004-07-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  88. 2004-07-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hack-proof and crash resistant - have you discovered the OS world 's
  89. 2004-07-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] How Linux Boots (Article)
  90. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Vendor uses DMCA to bar third-party support contracts (fwd)
  91. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Vendor uses DMCA to bar third-party support contracts
  92. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Trip to hear Ruben
  93. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Trip to hear Ruben
  94. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW:Infoworld: Is Content Control Constitutional? (fwd)
  95. 2004-07-14 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fw: [Perl Jobs] Web Programmer for Mason-based e-commerce site (telecommute)
  96. 2004-07-14 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] dev null route windows
  97. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW:Infoworld: Is Content Control Constitutional? (fwd)
  98. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  99. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl/TemplateToolkit/Oracle Web Developer (onsite), United States, NY, Rochester]
  100. 2004-07-13 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FW:Infoworld: Is Content Control Constitutional? (fwd)
  101. 2004-07-13 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  102. 2004-07-13 From: <akbar-at-jaal.org> Subject: [hangout] [OT] Computer Available
  103. 2004-07-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Classes begin tonight
  104. 2004-07-13 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Classes begin tonight
  105. 2004-07-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] DNS Question
  106. 2004-07-13 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: This Wed. Gnubies - Intro to Securing Your Email: Encryption
  107. 2004-07-13 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> FW: [hangout] Mike, take a look, NYDailyNews-Boroughs-Civic group
  108. 2004-07-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DNS Question
  109. 2004-07-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] DNS Question
  110. 2004-07-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Mike, take a look, NYDailyNews-Boroughs-Civic groups go hi-tech with donated PCs
  111. 2004-07-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DNS Question
  112. 2004-07-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Glimmer of hope in copyright measures
  113. 2004-07-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System
  114. 2004-07-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System
  115. 2004-07-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Day write up - again
  116. 2004-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bettina_Faltermeier-at-mcgraw-hill.com: Publisher Partnership Invitatio
  117. 2004-07-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite
  118. 2004-07-11 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite
  119. 2004-07-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Technite
  120. 2004-07-10 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [TechForum] Gender Equity and F/OSS: New book submissions requested
  121. 2004-07-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  122. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Commentary: Why Dell is scurrying to cover its tracks in Linspire
  123. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  124. 2004-07-09 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  125. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Commentary: Patched in 60 Seconds
  126. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] UNIGROUP Field Trip Meeting: 15-JUL-2004: Solaris 10 Launch Event
  127. 2004-07-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Getting to Know Linux Class - July 24, 2004 (NYPC)
  128. 2004-07-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] HOPE 2600 This weekend (NYC)] (fwd)
  129. 2004-07-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] HOPE 2600 This weekend (NYC)] (fwd)
  130. 2004-07-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] who is our contact at novell
  131. 2004-07-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for
  132. 2004-07-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for Free
  133. 2004-07-08 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux =?iso-8859-1?q?for=09Free?=
  134. 2004-07-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] HOPE 2600 This weekend (NYC)] (fwd)
  135. 2004-07-08 Jacek Blizinski <azidog-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for Free
  136. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Anti-Spam Web Site (Great Info)
  137. 2004-07-08 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] who is our contact at novell
  138. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] New 1G Email Service Available - www.walla.com
  139. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Free 10 GB Novell Resource Kit: Get SuSE Linux for Free
  140. 2004-07-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video Recording
  141. 2004-07-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Video Recording
  142. 2004-07-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video Recording
  143. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linix Users Group/In Princeton
  144. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Trip to Princeton
  145. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linix Users Group/In Princeton
  146. 2004-07-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] In-service
  147. 2004-07-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software Freedom Day Contribution
  148. 2004-07-07 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] In-service
  149. 2004-07-07 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] In-service
  150. 2004-07-07 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dell to Offer Linux-Loaded PCs in Europe (fwd)
  151. 2004-07-06 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] changing date of ldap inservice
  152. 2004-07-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] changing date of ldap inservice
  153. 2004-07-06 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] changing date of ldap inservice
  154. 2004-07-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux, Still an Awkward Alternative (Washington Post)
  155. 2004-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a COMPLETE Piece of ...
  156. 2004-07-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spam Assasin is a COMPLETE Piece of ...
  157. 2004-07-05 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: [politics] France has only 800 soldiers in Afghanistan]
  158. 2004-07-04 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] blowing up Small Schools
  159. 2004-07-04 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] In Service Program
  160. 2004-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hunter College has Linux Courses!
  161. 2004-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] In Service Program
  162. 2004-07-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  163. 2004-07-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  164. 2004-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  165. 2004-07-01 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Defending Small Schools
  166. 2004-07-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] forwarding mail
  167. 2004-07-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jays-at-panix.com: [orgcom-mgmt] puck info for orgcom mailing list (fwd)

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