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MESSAGE
DATE 2004-07-12
FROM From: "Inker, Evan"
SUBJECT RE: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System
From owner-hangout-destenys-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Jul 12 16:05:31 2004
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To: "'Ruben I Safir'"
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com,
"'MRichardson -at- abc . state . ny . us'"

Subject: RE: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System
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I'm not complaining but stating a fact. Everyone knows its been happening
and even worse, that no one is going to fight Big Business to get this
resolved. If anything, I can see these small NAS type hardware/software
vendors peddling their wares and not disclosing the source of their OS in
the future.

I think what bothers me most is that some of these vendors have won Linux or
Open Source Awards for their products without disclosing source code.

Regards,

Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615



-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 2:34 PM
To: EInker-at-gam.com
Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com; 'MRichardson -at- abc . state . ny . us'
Subject: Re: [hangout] Nitix Autonomic Linux-based Server Operating System




Is this a forwarded message or are we the complaintant?

You can not distribute the Linux kernal without the source, period.

The FSF, unbelievably, is not the owner generally of the Linux Code, Linus
Tovalds is, and only him, and his assinged designee can sue.

I think the LPI is the the folks to contact, or Bruce PErens, if not Linus
himslef. Push this to the Kernel Mailing list, to Don Marti the the Linux
Journal,
and the LPI. This also sound like the beginnings of an importatant Journal
Article.

Ruben


On 2004.07.12 12:51 "Inker, Evan" wrote:
> Hey, we seem to be getting a run on the number of Companies who use
> the Linux Kernel and develop advanced OS' but refuse to give access to the
> source code. Can someone please enlighten me on what a proprietary
based
> Linux OS is? I was under the impression that Linux was Free and that
> access to source code was a absolute must requirement. Well that two
> companies that I know of that are marketing and selling Linux Based
> Products but refusing to divulge source...
>
> Sad fact about all this is that most people saw this situation arising
> and that no one would hold these commercial vendors to task involving
> clear and blatant violations of the GPL. And before anyone asks, Yes,
> I did inform the FSF about Emergecore more than a year ago re: GPL
> Violations.....
>
> EmergeCore (OS called CoreVista which is in effect a souped up version
> of
> Slackware) Even won an award from LinuxWorld Magazine (May 2004 issue
> LinuxWorld Magazine)
>
> Great links whic Prove both Companies are clearly in violation of the
> GPL
> http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/04/03/24/148242.shtml?tid=65
>

> &tid=81
> http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-3118_7-30723906.html
>
>
>
> Here's a review of the Net Integrator Mark I Server (Hardware and
> Linux OS)
>
> Once in a while, a product comes along that just feels right. From the
> minute we powered on the Net Integrator Mark I and made it the core of
> our small network, that's exactly what happened. Except for the fact
> that this server can't handle Windows application sharing, there's
> nothing whatsoever missing from this unit. Sure, at $2,999, the Mark I
> is more expensive than other low-end servers out there. But it's quick
> to set up and has a full range of server tools from a company devoted
> to the needs of small business. It merits some very serious
> consideration.
>
> The Mark I runs a proprietary Linux-based OS, Nitix, which
> Net-Integration calls autonomic: It's self-adjusting according to
> workload, self-healing when it detects problems, self-protecting, and
> self-configuring. The Mark I also includes software called
> NetIntelligence, which detects and maps network resources, configures
> a firewall based on incoming packets, and guards against intrusions
> such as denial-of-service attacks.
>
> The Mark I also comes with a full array of server applications right
> out of the box. These include WWW and FTP servers, a PPTP server for
> VPN connections, NFS and Apple File file servers, LDAP, POP, SMTP,
> IMAP, MySQL, and ExchangeIt (Net-Integration's own collaboration tool,
> which essentially replaces Microsoft Exchange Server).
>
> Also built into the system: DoubleVision, which lets you connect to
> two broadband Internet providers simultaneously, automatically
> balancing the load between them and switching from one to the other if
> one fails. DDNS lets you provide Internet services without the need
> for a static IP address. If you host a Web site or mail server, but
> your ISP gives you a dynamic IP address, this will solve your problem.
>
> The Mark I protects against hard-disk failure in two ways. First, the
> core of the OS boots from flash memory rather than from a hard drive,
> with user accounts, the network (including firewall), VPN
> connectivity, and other services information intact. Second, it comes
> with two kinds of disk
> protection: Intelligent Disk Backup technology (which, as the name
implies,
> automatically backs up your data), and RAID-1 (which mirrors the hard
drive,
> allowing the server to keep running if one disk fails). The hard drives
are
> easily removable and accessible from the front panel, so swapping out a
> failed drive is a snap.
>
> In our tests, the Mark I practically set itself up, automatically
> taking its IP address from the DSL modem and configuring DHCP
> addresses for the four workstations. Having the IP number showing on
> the convenient front-panel display made it easy to get into the
> browser-based WebConfig tool, where we set up a RAID-1 disk
> configuration and a Dynamic DNS service, a Web server, and a mail
> server, along with five user accounts. All of this took less than an
> hour.
>
> With your purchase, you get a 30-day money-back guarantee (minus
> shipping costs), a 24-hour turnaround on a replacement product in case
> of failure, the Dynamic DNS service, and free software (including OS)
> downloads. Toll-free tech-support lines are open from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.
> ET daily.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
>
>
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  82. 2004-07-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Vendor uses DMCA to bar third-party support contracts
  83. 2004-07-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] mod_perl/TemplateToolkit/Oracle Web Developer (onsite), United States, NY, Rochester]
  84. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  85. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  86. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  87. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  88. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  89. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  90. 2004-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  91. 2004-07-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] dev null route windows
  92. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] dev null route windows
  93. 2004-07-15 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS inservice on Kerberos5, Cyrus SASL, OpenLDAP
  94. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  95. 2004-07-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  96. 2004-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  97. 2004-07-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs in Brooklyn for real cash
  98. 2004-07-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] leaving for the killarny
  99. 2004-07-15 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Since I haven't contributed in a while...
  100. 2004-07-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Time for vengeance
  101. 2004-07-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] great job Rob
  102. 2004-07-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] great job Rob
  103. 2004-07-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: php4 (SUSE-SA:2004:021) [krahmer-at-suse.de]
  104. 2004-07-16 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] great job Rob
  105. 2004-07-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Senators serious about DMCA fair use (fwd)
  106. 2004-07-17 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] via voice
  107. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  108. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  109. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  110. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  111. 2004-07-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  112. 2004-07-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  113. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  114. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  115. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Help Camera Problems
  116. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn Freedom
  117. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS Trademark on Windows caused a settlement in favor of Lindows
  118. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Outreach
  119. 2004-07-19 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Suse 9.1 Review
  120. 2004-07-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Video 1 step forward
  121. 2004-07-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Perl Jobs] Programmer Analyst, CT, Stamford
  122. 2004-07-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Video 1 step forward
  123. 2004-07-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Volunteers Needed for New User Days]
  124. 2004-07-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  125. 2004-07-22 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  126. 2004-07-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  127. 2004-07-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  128. 2004-07-22 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Good and Bad news Tape - LUG/IP
  129. 2004-07-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] "No Subject" BUG in Kmail - Watch Out!!!!
  130. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  131. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  132. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  133. 2004-07-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  134. 2004-07-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  135. 2004-07-23 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  136. 2004-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  137. 2004-07-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  138. 2004-07-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  139. 2004-07-23 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Subject: [hangout] "No Subject" BUG in Kmail - Watch Out!!!!
  140. 2004-07-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] 5% of all PCs in 2004 shipped with Linux
  141. 2004-07-23 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RAM for Suse 9.1
  142. 2004-07-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Windows takes on multiple roles
  143. 2004-07-25 From: "Evan Inker" <einker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Week Online Story: How Microsoft Can Embrace Linux
  144. 2004-07-25 einker-at-gam.com Subject: [hangout] Windows takes on multiple roles
  145. 2004-07-25 einker-at-gam.com Subject: [hangout] Windows takes on multiple roles
  146. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] A comparison of Damn Small Linux, Knoppix and PCLinuxOS Linux Liv e
  147. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Active FTP vs. Passive FTP, a Definitive Explanation
  148. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Barcelona embracing open source
  149. 2004-07-26 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Panda
  150. 2004-07-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FW: Panda (fwd)
  151. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Hilton Hotels Business Solutions to Interoperate with Linux
  152. 2004-07-26 From: "rc" <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Media Oligarchies
  153. 2004-07-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCHOOLS FAIL OUR CHILDREN
  154. 2004-07-27 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Call for Volunteers - Software Freedom Day 2004
  155. 2004-07-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Call for Volunteers - Software Freedom Day 2004
  156. 2004-07-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] NIST says Data Encryption Standard now 'inadequate'
  157. 2004-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Oh my god - Apple is complaining about Competition!
  158. 2004-07-30 Michael Richardson <MRichardson-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] SysAdmin to SysAdmin: It's the documentation, stupi
  159. 2004-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] SysAdmin to SysAdmin: It's the documentation, stupi d!
  160. 2004-07-30 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] SysAdmin to SysAdmin: It's the documentation, stupid!
  161. 2004-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Dell Releases New Linux Workstations
  162. 2004-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] More Than 90% of Linux Systems Have Never Been Infected by a Viru s,
  163. 2004-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh my god - Apple is complaining about Competition!
  164. 2004-07-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SysAdmin to SysAdmin: It's the documentation, stupid!
  165. 2004-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Submit Your Next Press Release to InternetNewsBureau and
  166. 2004-07-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Than 90% of Linux Systems Have Never Been
  167. 2004-07-31 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [NMLUG] Re: legal music downloads?

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