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DATE 2023-05-14
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] (fwd) Re: Human & ape evolution
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On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 6:52:41=E2=80=AFPM UTC-4, marc verhaegen emerg=
ed from hiding just
long enough to post a few lines that avoid the main point of what he is res=
ponding to.

.
> ... Peter:
> "it seems strange that he is here talking about swamp forests when his bi=
g pitch for BP earlier had them wading in coastal waters for shellfish."

Marc, you are ignoring BP in the few lines you do write below.

> ?? Apparently you haven't even read my view!?=20

You have so many views on so many things, and they are so under-supported,
it's hard to keep track of them all.

In stunning contrast, you are fleeing headlong from innumerable holes Mr. T=
iib and=20
I have poked in various other "views" of yours on this thread. Are you doi=
ng this out of admiration for the way
JTEM is running away from them and insulting people who try to make him dis=
cuss them like a responsible adult?=20


> Please inform properly before talking.=20

If I had, I would have poked holes in these views sooner, rather than here.=
See below.


> Again, for the Xth time, schematically:=20
> 1) Most Mio-Pliocene Hominoidea were *aquarboreal*(google!),=20

Google you spouting more unevidenced information from which Afro-Asian foss=
ils of human
ancestors (Sivapithecus isn't one, even by your standards) are completely m=
issing by your standards?
[Your standards have reassigned all those hominin fossils to the ancestry =
of gorillas and chimps.]

As for Dryopithecus and Oreopithecus and other European apes, where is your=
evidence that they were aquarboreal?


> dispersing mostly in coastal forests (Tethys Ocean -> Tethys Sea etc.) + =
everywhere side-branches inland, of course.=20

No fossils, so your "of course" is empty bravado.


> Diet: mostly fruits etc.? shellfish (+-no brain enlargement!)?? =20

Why the question marks? don't you believe your own hypotheses?=20


> 2) Pliocene Homo followed the Ind.Ocean coastal forests e.g. Java early-P=
leist.

Java was near the end of the line. Where are your examples from elsewhere a=
long the line?
Why would the super-eruption you and JTEM conveniently blame for their lack
bury the whole route but not the Java part, despite your "everywhere side-b=
ranches inland, of course".??


+ frequent shallow-diving for mostly shellfish (H.erectus pachy-osteo-scle=
rosis, brain enlargement, island colonizations etc.), e.g. *shell engraving=
s*: google "Joordens Munro"!

Will I find photos of engravings if I do the googling? That aside...

How is it that you banish Homo naledi to the chimp and gorilla line, but no=
t Homo erectus?=20
There is some speculation that *erectus* and *naledi* are in direct line of=
descent one with the other.


Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics -- standard disclaimer--
Univ. of South Carolina in Columbia
http://people.math.sc.edu/nyikos

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  93. 2023-05-27 Joel Brobecker <brobecker-at-adacore.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GDB 13.2 released!
  94. 2023-05-26 From: "American Numismatic Society" <membership-at-numismatics.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Join us for today's Long Table with David
  95. 2023-05-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blue Ribbon Panel
  96. 2023-05-29 From: "American Numismatic Society" <membership-at-numismatics.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?This_week_at_the_ANS=E2=80=94June_2?=
  97. 2023-05-29 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #618 - Conference Season?
  98. 2023-05-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: One Year MBA in HC,
  99. 2023-05-31 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Weaponing the Justice system continues | |
  100. 2023-05-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Weaponing the Justice system continues | |
  101. 2023-05-31 From: "Chaim Desser" <info-at-poelgroupstaffing.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] current positions to fill

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