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DATE 2002-08-22
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
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From: Ruben Safir
To: Michael Richardson
Cc: "'Vilensky, Alex'" , "'Ruben Safir'" ,
Matus Telgarsky , hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
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This is just a flat out untruth.

Prove now with historical fact, and don't leave out all those
events I already posted which conclussively proves that slavery was
the key, if not sole, cuase of the Civil war which (BTW) began in
the Kansas Terriorty around 1850.



On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 02:41:33PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Slavery was a minor factor not major. In fact the war was not concerned
> with slavery util the emancipation proclamation Which was not a legal
> document at the time it was issued. It was only issued to tie up
> confederate troops.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:37 PM
> To: 'Ruben Safir'; Michael Richardson
> Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: RE: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
>
>
> While slavery was one of the major factors in the civil war, Lincoln
> would've never been able to start the war if it was the only factor, because
> Blacks were hated as much as the Jews in the North and abolitionists' views
> were concidered too radical by many "common" people.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: Michael Richardson
> Cc: 'Ruben Safir'; Vilensky, Alex; Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> Subject: Re: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
>
>
> What does the war aims have to do with the causes of the war?
>
> Stop being a victem of the racists who described history for their
> own justification. Read the 1856 speach by Congressman Charles Summer of
> Massachusetts title "The Crime Against Kansas", the political position of
> the "Free-soilers" and the speaches of Andrew Bulter of South Carolina,
> which then caused Bulters relatives to rush into the Senate and beat
> Summer unconscious.
>
> Over the slavery issue everyone then came to COngress armed and often
> pulled them out in the heat of debate.
>
>
> Denying Slavery as the causitive factor of the War is nothing different
> than Denying the Holocaust...there is just no historical justification
> for this opinion, accept to believe the racist bigotry which was spun
> as an explanation for the events. All the events of American between
> 1840-1863
> history have to be rewritten to accomadate such bullshit. What was the
> battle over the Kansas-Nebraska act about then, and why did the history of
> Kansas
> called "Bloody KAnsas" and why was the elections rigged in become rigged by
> Slave proponents in Kansas in the states sovornty election, and why did
> people
> cross the boarder from MO. to KA. just to rig the election, What was the
> Lecompton constition about? Why did the Whig Paerty dissolve in the 1860
> election? Why did Licon's speaches in the 1850's center on slavery as
> a subverssive element of American Ideals and Democracy (which IS what he
> said),
> What was the book, published in 1859, "The Impending Crisis of the South",
> by Hinton R Helper, and why did it delay the election of the House Presiding
> Officer for 2 months, what was the John Brown incident in 1859, and why were
>
> Wendell Phillips and Ralph Waldo Emerson considered traitor in the South
> afterwards. Why did the Western Democrats storm out the Democratic
> convention
> in 1860? nd so on.
>
>
> How much historical fact do you want to deny defendening the racist
> interpretation
> that the Civil War was over "States Rights" and not caused over the fight to
> spread slavery in the Union? That WAS THE RIGHT THE SOUTH SECEDED FOR.
>
> The civil war didn't start with Lincon's election, it started in the Kansas
> Territory where Southerns and Free Soil Westerners battled with arms for
> years,
> and where John Brown got his political education and exported the War to
> Virginia,
> right up to the eventual firing on Fort Sumter. There was NO WAY the war
> could
> haved ended with Slavery intact. The Majority of the people in the north
> wanted
> a flat out end to slavery from the start of the birth of the Republican
> party.
>
> I would like to point out that "Uncle Tom's Cabin" sold over 300,000 copies
> in
> the FIRST YEARS it was published.....
> For G-d Sake, how much more evidence do you need..
>
>
> In 1820 the south was 46.7 of the total US Population with 45.1 percent of
> the electorial college, and by 1860 it was 39.1 percent and 35% of the
> college.
>
> They were arming the West to assure slavery in these territories long before
> the official decelaration of war.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2002 at 11:23:49AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> >
> > The war aims as passed in the Critteden-Johnson Resolutions declared that
> > the war was waged to preserve the Union and states with their rights and
> > institutions unimpaired. That means they had not plan to abolish slavery
> > and under the Constitution they did not have that power. See US
> Constitution
> > Article 4 Section 2. In April 1865 Lee surrended. It was not until Dec
> 1865
> > that a resolution to amend the constitution was put forward and passed the
> > 13th Amendment which abolish slavery. Not the war.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:55 PM
> > To: Michael Richardson
> > Cc: 'Ruben I Safir'; AlexV-at-ilx.com; Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > Subject: Causative reasons for the Civil War
> >
> >
> > THe cause of the civil war was the struggle between Free States and Slave
> > States
> > and the expanssion of the West.
> >
> >
> > Originally, the West was aligned with Slave states because most of the
> early
> >
> > Western expanssion (Missisppi, Alabama, and the Gulf States), but cotton
> > was not adequate for Kansas and Nebraska. The moral problem of Slavery
> > became increasingly a thorn in South West and Northern relations,
> especially
> > the problem of run away slaves and the importation of slave labor into
> > free labor zones.
> >
> > Eventually, the West saw it's economic tied developing with the Notrth
> East
> > and
> > the Rail Orad building and industrial ports for agricultural products on
> the
> > Atlantic Sea Board. Immigrants moving into the West increasingly resisted
> > Slavery
> > because of labor competition.
> >
> > This all stated to come to a boil with Bloody Kansas which destroyed the
> > Misouri Compromise (don't ask me to spell Missoroui).
> >
> > The issue for the south was that congressional balence of power was
> shifting
> > to
> > the anti-slavery forces in the north, which wanted to block savery for
> > economic
> > and moral reasons from enterying into the Kansas Territory.
> >
> > The straw that broke the camels back was the Texan Revoltion, which would
> > tip the balance but good. And Texases annexation into the US became
> > delayed.
> > Firthmore, it was apparent that the US was likely take Cuba from the
> > Spaniards
> > and it looked like Cuba would also become a state, a state of a large
> number
> > of
> > Free Blacks.
> >
> > Racism on the North and South both caused a denial of the basic problems
> of
> > these tenssions being both Slavery and the Slave economy, but every time
> > push came to shove, it reared it's head and needed resolution. With the
> > election
> > which lead to Lincon it became apearent to the South that it was
> > increasingly
> > isolated in the national government. Neither the West nor the East would
> > co-operate on issues of runaway slaves, or the expanssion of Slavery into
> > the
> > West. So they resigned from the Union. But that solved nothing because
> all
> > these Western Territories was still at issue, and the North refused to
> > disolve
> > the Union. EVEN WITHOUT THE FIRING ON FT SUMPTNER, the civil war would
> > have happened anyway because of the social aggetation, and the issue of
> the
> > Western Territories.
> >
> > It would have just happened in Nebraska first.
> >
> > There was a moral, economic and social impass, one which only became
> accute
> > when
> > the majority of European Settlers in the new world, and the soverign
> states
> > which they carved out refused on prinicple and economics to continue with
> a
> > slave based society.
> >
> > Everyone wanted to deny that they were fighting for the freedom of the
> > slaves,
> > because they were all racists. But it was never the less the soul and
> only
> > force pushing the conflict forward. Lincon rn under a moderate position
> on
> > these issues, and was forced over time to accept the reality that a post
> > civil
> > war America could not continue with two societies...one with slavery, and
> > one
> > without.
> >
> > It was a Theogolical, Societial, Political, and Economic fact. The only
> > real victory the North could obtain was one which emancipated the slaves.
> >
> > So in a word, Mike, you've brought into a racist interpretation of the
> Civil
> > War which blames the bloody event on anything they could accept the only
> > only
> > thing that REALLY MATTERED, which was an end to Slavery in the South.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:41:33PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > The library did not have the book. It will have to wait until I can go
> to
> > > the bookstore. The Civil War was about whether the Union would survive
> or
> > > not. Did the States have the power or the Federal Government.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:07 PM
> > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > Cc: 'Ruben Safir'; Michael Richardson; AlexV-at-ilx.com; Matus Telgarsky;
> > > hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your trolling Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > And your not right about the war and salery.
> > >
> > > You brought into the racist writings of the preriod which did everything
> > > to explain the war as anything but one which was to 'free the niggers'
> > >
> > >
> > > But Freeing the Slaves was it's most essential elements, upon which all
> > the
> > > other
> > > problems secondarly evolved from.
> > >
> > >
> > > See Bloody Kansas for historical refernce
> > >
> > > Ruben
> > >
> > > On 2002.08.21 14:54 Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > > If we live in fear of being nuked and let that determine how we live
> and
> > > act
> > > > then they have achieved their goal. The people of this country may
> have
> > a
> > > > moral compass but most of those that run this county do not. (both
> > elected
> > > > and Business wise). Having a moral compass and not insisting that it
> be
> > > > used is our countries problem. Look at your history books again. At
> > the
> > > > real causes of the civil war. Slavery was a minor issue that got a
> lot
> > of
> > > > press. It was not the cause of the war. Not one slave was freed by
> the
> > > > war. Read the emancipation proclamation. Don't just believe what
> > > everyone
> > > > else says it said.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:13 AM
> > > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > > Cc: 'Vilensky, Alex'; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky;
> > > > hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 09:54:47AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > > > We need to look at our past, so we don't (hopefully) make the same
> > > > mistakes.
> > > > > What we see as doing our best, they see as a snare into servitude.
> > We
> > > > are
> > > > > the only country that believes the whitewashed press releases that
> we
> > > have
> > > > > been writing for the past 200+ years.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is Gibberish. Do yop think the Europeans are in a position to
> make
> > a
> > >
> > > > judgment on the US.
> > > >
> > > > They wouldn't know freedom if it came and kicked them in the teeth.
> > > >
> > > > The world judges us on the resentful inferiority complexes and
> > > > bigoted biases.
> > > >
> > > > Or let's look at Africa!
> > > > nope
> > > > Southeast Asia?
> > > > Nope
> > > > Hmmm --- yeah
> > > >
> > > > You know what, this remains the only major nation on Earth with a
> moral
> > > > compass.
> > > >
> > > > You can wax poetic about not trusting the government and the terrors
> of
> > > the
> > > > US, and the "blood on our hands"
> > > > You have no idea Mike. Your interpretation of American History
> > > > is a little skewed by prejudgement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And the danger from Iraq is real, and not imaginary. I have no faith
> > > > in the judgement of the Europeans of the Canadians, or ex-Bush
> officials
> > > > on this matter.
> > > >
> > > > This MAN will Nuke NY. And he'll do it without a second though.
> > > >
> > > > BTW - your statement about the Civil War not being over emancipation
> > > > is just incorrect. By the end of the war, every racist in the North
> had
> > > to
> > > > face the fact that they just fought for 3 years over emancipation,
> > whether
> > > > they
> > > > liked it or not.
> > > >
> > > > There was no WAY that they were going back to a slavce system in the
> > south
> > > > after all that.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > People around the world judge us by
> > > > > our track record not by what we say. Remember this is a country
> that
> > > not
> > > > > only lies to its people but does kill them while claiming to be
> "Miss
> > > > goody
> > > > > two shoes". don't get me wrong I would rather be here than in any
> > other
> > > > > country. But I believe that the founding fathers added the Bill of
> > > Rights
> > > > > to the Constitution because they did not trust the government they
> put
> > > > > together. NETHER WE SHOULD WE.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:10 PM
> > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'
> > > > > Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The answer is yes, we do have a bloody history just like every other
> > > > nation
> > > > > on earth. What we don't want to do is take responisibility for the
> > sins
> > > of
> > > > > our forefathers. Some of what they did (and not all of them
> > participated
> > > > in
> > > > > it) was wrong. What makes us different is the desire to do something
> > > right
> > > > > and not look back in the past. Do we concider ourselves worthy of
> > being
> > > > > alive? Do you think that by upholding the principles of cooperation,
> > > > spread
> > > > > of knowledge, tolerance and unity you deserve a chance to make a
> > > > difference
> > > > > in the lives of many people? Doesn't the fact that we are doing our
> > best
> > > > to
> > > > > promote the use of Linux in the very countries that hate us with a
> > > passion
> > > > > entitle us to doing our work and not be slaughtered by some maniac
> who
> > > > wants
> > > > > to make a statement?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:40 PM
> > > > > To: Vilensky, Alex; 'Ruben I Safir'
> > > > > Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Our founding fathers did not want to pay taxes. That was why the
> > wrote
> > > > the
> > > > > Declaration of Independence. Life was put it because they knew
> they
> > > were
> > > > > signing their death warrant. liberty because as long as they had
> > their
> > > > > liberty they had their lives. Happiness because they were happy to
> be
> > > > > alive. The United States of America had Blood on it's hands before
> it
> > > > > became a Nation (French and Indian wars). This Nation was born in
> > Blood
> > > > > (the Revolution) second round in 1812. The Alamo, Spanish American
> > war,
> > > > did
> > > > > I say that this Country broke every treaty that was signed with the
> > > Native
> > > > > American Indian? while killing as many as possible in as many was
> as
> > > was
> > > > > possible? When this Country could not find anyone to fight we chose
> > up
> > > > > sides and fought ourselves. The Civil War (Bloodiest on record) had
> > > > nothing
> > > > > to do with slavery (NOT ONE SLAVE WAS FREEDED BECAUSE OF IT). Read
> > the
> > > > > Emancipation Proclamation if you don't believe me. The war to end
> all
> > > > wars
> > > > > we wanted no part of. We went in anyway. W.W.II we supplied
> everyone
> > > (I
> > > > am
> > > > > not sure about the Germany). Korea was McArther's bid for
> Chesarship.
> > > > > Vietnam Johnson said was a nice little war to get involed in.
> Granada
> > > was
> > > > > just a little exercise. Desert Storm was about protecting oil. For
> a
> > > > young
> > > > > nation we have a lot of blood on our hands which has nothing to do
> > with
> > > > what
> > > > > this country says it stand for. (This country stands for Money and
> > > > nothing
> > > > > else). And this does not get into the blood of the citizens of this
> > > > country
> > > > > that was spilled.
> > > > >
> > > > > PS I won't be able to respond until latter tonight or tomorrow.
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:09 PM
> > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'
> > > > > Cc: Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What makes some of us different is the absence of hatred. We do what
> > we
> > > do
> > > > > not out of hatred for Saddam, but because we need to save our lives
> > and,
> > > > > also, because we stand for the principles that built our country:
> > life,
> > > > > liberty and pursuit of happiness.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:48 PM
> > > > > To: 'Ruben I Safir'
> > > > > Cc: Vilensky, Alex; Matus Telgarsky; hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Empires are about money and power the hate is fermented to get the
> > mass
> > > to
> > > > > go along and not think. Take a look at all empires or countries
> that
> > > have
> > > > > been and are currently existence. You will notice that the
> bloodiest
> > > > > religious cleansing and regions occur at the time of expansion or
> > > > > consolidation. The hate works on the idea that the other guy is not
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > people.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:36 PM
> > > > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > > > Cc: AlexV-at-ilx.com; Michael Richardson; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus
> > Telgarsky;
> > > > > hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes &
> > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's why they attack.
> > > > >
> > > > > I though they attack because Sadam Hussain has grand visions of
> empire
> > > > > srinkled with a heavey does of anti-semitism, and and Kurdish
> > > tendencies.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you sure?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ruben
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2002.08.20 15:16 Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They do what they do to America because they believe or feel that
> we
> > > > have
> > > > > > backed them into a corner with no other way out. give them a way
> > out!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > > > > > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes
> &
> > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, I accept their right to live their life the way they want it.
> > Will
> > > > > that
> > > > > > stop Saddam and Osama from going on with their plans to
> exterminate
> > > > > > Americans?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:57 PM
> > > > > > To: Vilensky, Alex; Michael Richardson; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus
> > > Telgarsky
> > > > > > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes
> &
> > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No we need to accept that other people have their own life and are
> > > there
> > > > > > existence is not at our whim, also to be honest and fair with
> them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Vilensky, Alex [mailto:AlexV-at-ilx.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:54 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > > > > > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes
> &
> > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with you, but what's the alternative? Should we wait for
> > > another
> > > > > > mega-attack on our soil?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Ruben I Safir'; Matus Telgarsky
> > > > > > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes
> &
> > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right now attacking Saddam will just be a smoke screen to get the
> > > > American
> > > > > > people to go along with the program of giving up OUR RIGHTS AS
> GIVEN
> > > US
> > > > > > UNDER THE US CONSTITUTION. War as always been the best way to get
> > us
> > > to
> > > > > > give up our rights without to much vocal resistance. Also look at
> > who
> > > > > goes
> > > > > > to war (not the polications who votes for it). Who makes the
> money
> > > from
> > > > > it?
> > > > > > Make no mistake war is primary about money. second is power. God
> is
> > > > used
> > > > > to
> > > > > > Jusifty the first two without talking about them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:55 PM
> > > > > > To: Matus Telgarsky
> > > > > > Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes
> &
> > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That would be "BOINK" - not right and without evidence of
> historical
> > > > fact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See Indian - American
> > > > > > See - like nearly every historical slaughter going back to
> > Ur.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Micheal was right, G Bush should have done it the first time.
> > Leaving
> > > > > Iraq
> > > > > > with it's missle research lab and nuclear program intact, and
> > > oppressive
> > > > > > political
> > > > > > regien with it's bigoted hatred of minories, Kurds and Jews in
> place
> > > was
> > > > a
> > > > > > HUGE ERROR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ruben
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > as far as history, this is the case with every instance of
> > > > > > oppression-revolt,
> > > > > > > attack-counterattack.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:53:41 -0400 Ruben I Safir
> > >
> > > > > > > Deliberately scrawled:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is no historical precidendence for this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is jibberish
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2002.08.20 12:42 Matus Telgarsky wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The more we are aggressive, the more we insure a
> counterattack
> > > > > (likely
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > nuke).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You don't fight hate and/or guerilla/terrorist tactics the
> way
> > > you
> > > > > > fight a
> > > > > > > > > standing army.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -mateurasjkfk
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:09:08 -0400 Ruben I Safir
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Deliberately scrawled:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don't want NYC Nuked
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I really don't CARE about anything else in this matter.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 2002.08.20 11:50 Ray Connolly wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I think the mistake your refering to is WWII
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Ruben I Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:37 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: Michael Richardson
> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: 'Ruben Safir'; hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org:
> > #247:
> > > > > Pipes
> > > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Sadam Hussain is a Neo-Nazi with genocidal tendenacies
> who
> > > > will
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > Nuclear Weapons
> > > > > > > > > > > pointed at New York in a year or less.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No thank you. We've made this mistake once and it cost
> us
> > > the
> > > > > > World
> > > > > > > > > > > Trade Center.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I do not want to nuked...........
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2002.08.20 11:28 Michael Richardson wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > As long as he was doing what the US wanted he was ok
> to
> > be
> > > > in
> > > > > > office.
> > > > > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > > he started doing what was in his best interest he
> became
> > a
> > > > bad
> > > > > > guy. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > believe he invade Kuwait because he was assured that
> the
> > > US
> > > > > > would not
> > > > > > > > > > > > interfere. the US has a history of putting and
> > supporting
> > > > > > people in
> > > > > > > > > > > > power who do what the US wants until they stop doing
> > what
> > > > the
> > > > > US
> > > > > > wants
> > > > > > > > > > > > then they become the "Bad Guy". This is not the time
> to
> > > get
> > > > > > involved
> > > > > > > > > > > > with Saddam. Without world support we will be seen as
> > > being
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong (right now the US needs all the good will it can
> > > > > muster.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ruben Safir [mailto:ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:21 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org:
> #247:
> > > > Pipes
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > > > > > > Schanzer on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Saddam's Rap Sheet
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > by Daniel Pipes and Jonathan Schanzer
> > > > > > > > > > > > New York Post
> > > > > > > > > > > > August 20, 2002
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.danielpipes.org/article/444
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/55073.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Consider the paradox: Almost every government agrees
> > that
> > > > > Iraqi
> > > > > > > > > > > > dictator Saddam Hussein is an appalling monster and
> > > shudders
> > > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > prospect of his acquiring nuclear weapons. Yet those
> > same
> > > > > > governments
> > > > > > > > > > > > are also furiously signaling their disapproval of an
> > > > > > American-led
> > > > > > > > > > > > military effort to depose him.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > That would be "risky adventurism," declares Germany's
> > > > > Chancellor
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gerhard Schroeder; Saddam poses no immediate threat,
> and
> > > > > > Washington
> > > > > > > > > > > > lacks a justification to attack him. Most U.S. allies
> > > > > worldwide
> > > > > > agree.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But they are plain wrong. Saddam is an immediate
> menace,
> > > and
> > > > > the
> > > > > > U.S.
> > > > > > > > > > > > government has cause to preempt him. Here's why:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > * Record. Saddam has a history of unrelenting
> > aggression.
> > > He
> > > > > > invaded
> > > > > > > > > > > > Iran
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1980. He conquered Kuwait in 1990. He assaulted Saudi
> > > Arabia
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > Israel
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > missiles in 1991. He's shot at U.S. and British
> aircraft
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > "no-fly zone" since 1992. He attacked the Kurdish
> > regional
> > > > > > enclave in
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1996.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > He also has many links to terrorism. Iraq harbors
> Abdul
> > > > Rahman
> > > > > > Yasin,
> > > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the gang that bombed the World Trade Center in 1993.
> It
> > > also
> > > > > > hosted
> > > > > > > > > > > > the notorious Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal, just
> > found
> > > > dead
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > Baghdad. He encourages Hamas suicide bombers by paying
> > > > $10,000
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > their families. His terrorists tried to assassinate
> > former
> > > > > > President
> > > > > > > > > > > > George H.W. Bush and the emir of Kuwait. An Iraqi
> > diplomat
> > > > met
> > > > > > with al
> > > > > > > > > > > > Qaeda's Mohammad Atta before the Sept. 11 suicide
> > mission.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > * Casus belli. Saddam has a history of violating
> > > > international
> > > > > > law and
> > > > > > > > > > > > developing illegal weapons.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In February 1991, he signed an agreement accepting all
> > > U.N.
> > > > > > Security
> > > > > > > > > > > Council
> > > > > > > > > > > > resolutions passed after his invasion of Kuwait seven
> > > months
> > > > > > earlier.
> > > > > > > > > > > > He recognized Resolution 687, which demands Iraq's
> > weapons
> > > > of
> > > > > > mass
> > > > > > > > > > > destruction
> > > > > > > > > > > > (WMD) be "destroyed, removed or rendered harmless,"
> and
> > > > > requires
> > > > > > > > > > > inspectors
> > > > > > > > > > > > be allowed into Iraq.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > But Saddam then played "cat and mouse" with the
> > inspectors
> > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > withholding information, dissimulating and hiding
> > > materiel.
> > > > > > "Iraq
> > > > > > > > > > > > released detailed records of how many ballpoint pens
> it
> > > > > ordered
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > late 1980s," noted a U.S. government report in 1998,
> but
> > > > left
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > > > > vital information about its"missile warheads capable
> of
> > > > > > delivering
> > > > > > > > > > > > biological and chemical agents."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nonetheless, over seven years, inspectors did destroy
> at
> > > > least
> > > > > > 27,000
> > > > > > > > > > > > chemical bombs, artillery shells and rockets, 500 tons
> > of
> > > > > > mustard and
> > > > > > > > > > > nerve
> > > > > > > > > > > > agents and thousands of tons of precursor chemicals.
> > They
> > > > > > dissembled
> > > > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Iraq's nuclear program, which was further along than
> > > > > previously
> > > > > > > > > > > > thought - and which had continued in violation of
> > > Resolution
> > > > > > 687.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Then, in August 1998, Saddam accurately read the
> Clinton
> > > > > > > > > > > > administration's mood and closed the door to further
> > > > > > inspections,
> > > > > > > > > > > > correctly figuring he
> > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > not have to pay a price for this unilateral abrogation
> > of
> > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > > promises.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > * Dangers. Saddam has unquestionably used the past
> four
> > > > years
> > > > > to
> > > > > > build
> > > > > > > > > > > WMD.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Adnan Saeed al-Haideri, an Iraqi civil engineer and a
> > > recent
> > > > > > defector,
> > > > > > > > > > > > informed the Defense Intelligence Agency that Saddam
> is
> > > > > building
> > > > > > > > > > > biological
> > > > > > > > > > > > and chemical weapons in eight locations throughout
> Iraq.
> > > > > Khidhir
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hamza, former chief nuclear scientist for Saddam's
> > nuclear
> > > > > > weapons
> > > > > > > > > > > > development program and another Iraqi defector,
> > estimates
> > > > Iraq
> > > > > > now has
> > > > > > > > > > > > "12 tons of uranium and 1.3 tons of low-enriched
> > uranium"
> > > > and
> > > > > > asserts
> > > > > > > > > > > > that Saddam will have "three to five nuclear weapons
> by
> > > > 2005."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Butler, former chief U.N. weapons inspector,
> > says
> > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > "foolish
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > the extreme" to believe that Saddam is not hard at
> work
> > on
> > > > > > long-range
> > > > > > > > > > > > missiles, and nuclear, chemical and biological
> weaponry.
> > > If
> > > > > > Saddam
> > > > > > > > > > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > his hands on nuclear weapons, he will exploit them
> > fully.
> > > He
> > > > > is
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > only ruler in power already to have used WMD - having
> > > > deployed
> > > > > > poison
> > > > > > > > > > > > gases against both Iranians and his own Kurdish
> > > population.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > President Bush is therefore right to state that the
> > United
> > > > > > States must
> > > > > > > > > > > > "confront the worst threats before they emerge." With
> no
> > > > other
> > > > > > means
> > > > > > > > > > > > to dismantle Saddam's arsenal and protect against
> future
> > > > > > aggression,
> > > > > > > > > > > > this leaves a military campaign as the only option -
> and
> > > the
> > > > > > sooner it
> > > > > > > > > > > > begins, the better for us all.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
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> Archive
> > > or
> > > > > > stories
> > > > > > > > > > > > and articles from around the net
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my
> > surprise
> > > > when
> > > > > I
> > > > > > saw
> > > > > > > > > > > you...
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New
> > > > Downtown
> > > > > > > > > > > > Brooklyn....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show
> and
> > > > > Archives
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free
> > > Software
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > or
> > > > > > stories and
> > > > > > > > > > > articles from around the net
> > > > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my
> surprise
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > saw
> > > > > > > > > > > you... http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the
> > New
> > > > > > Downtown
> > > > > > > > > > > Brooklyn....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and
> > > > Archives
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free
> > Software
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> or
> > > > > stories
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > articles from around the net
> > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3
> > > > -
> > > > > > Imagine
> > > > > > > > > > my surprise when I saw you...
> > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html
> > > > > > - See
> > > > > > > > > > the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and
> > Archives
> > > > > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or
> > > stories
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > articles from around the net
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3
> > -
> > > > > > Imagine my
> > > > > > > > surprise when I saw you...
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html
> > > -
> > > > > See
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > New Downtown Brooklyn....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > > __________________________
> > > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or
> stories
> > > and
> > > > > > articles from around the net
> > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I
> saw
> > > > > you...
> > > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown
> > > > Brooklyn....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > __________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > > __________________________
> > > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories
> > and
> > > > > articles from around the net
> > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw
> > > > you...
> > > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown
> > > Brooklyn....
> > > > >
> > > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > > > Fair Use -
> > > > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > __________________________
> > > >
> > > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > > __________________________
> > > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories
> and
> > > > articles from around the net
> > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw
> > > you...
> > > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown
> > Brooklyn....
> > > >
> > > > 1-718-382-5752
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > __________________________
> > >
> > > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > > __________________________
> > > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> > > articles from around the net
> > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw
> > you...
> > > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown
> Brooklyn....
> > >
> > > 1-718-382-5752
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________
> > > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > > Fair Use -
> > > because it's either fair use or useless....
> >
> > --
> > __________________________
> >
> > Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> > __________________________
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> > http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> > http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> > articles from around the net
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw
> you...
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
> >
> > 1-718-382-5752
> >
> >
> > ____________________________
> > New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> > Fair Use -
> > because it's either fair use or useless....
>
> --
> __________________________
>
> Brooklyn Linux Solutions
> __________________________
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
> http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
> http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and
> articles from around the net
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you...
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
>
> 1-718-382-5752

--
__________________________

Brooklyn Linux Solutions
__________________________
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
http://www.nylxs.com/radio - Free Software Radio Show and Archives
http://www.brooklynonline.com - For the love of Brooklyn
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you...
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....

1-718-382-5752



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New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
Fair Use -
because it's either fair use or useless....

  1. 2002-08-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SUSE 8.0 Install, no mouse pointer visible.
  2. 2002-08-02 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [hangout] More NYLXS stuff in the News
  3. 2002-08-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More NYLXS stuff in the News
  4. 2002-08-02 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Re: [hangout] More NYLXS stuff in the News
  5. 2002-08-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More NYLXS stuff in the News
  6. 2002-08-01 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] LaGuardia demo update
  7. 2002-08-01 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] LaGuardia demo update
  8. 2002-08-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Linux Journal
  9. 2002-08-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Control
  10. 2002-08-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Control
  11. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article on Political Shift in our favor
  12. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Article on Political Shift in our favor
  13. 2002-08-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] grepping rmcpa
  14. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Business Free Software Demo
  15. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Business Free Software Demo
  16. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LaGuardia demo update
  17. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] Not affected: openssh trojan from ftp.openbsd.org]
  18. 2002-08-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] Not affected: openssh trojan from ftp.openbsd.org]
  19. 2002-08-03 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Boat
  20. 2002-08-03 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Boat
  21. 2002-08-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Build Them Back
  22. 2002-08-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Party Planning Meeting
  23. 2002-08-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Build your Free Software Business
  24. 2002-08-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Boat
  25. 2002-08-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jhise-at-linuxforbusiness.org: [nylug-talk] Free Stuff]
  26. 2002-08-04 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Boat
  27. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Literature Needed for Accounting Conference
  28. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spread the word on the new Classes
  29. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Spread the word on the new Classes
  30. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  31. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  32. 2002-08-04 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  33. 2002-08-04 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  34. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  35. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  36. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Membership Free Web Pages
  37. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LSM Webpage needs to be done
  38. 2002-08-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  39. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spread the word on the new Classes
  40. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Intall Feast Location Needed
  41. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  42. 2002-08-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  43. 2002-08-04 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  44. 2002-08-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  45. 2002-08-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Party Boat
  46. 2002-08-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Re: mirror updated
  47. 2002-08-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Boat
  48. 2002-08-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Boat
  49. 2002-08-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WWWAC is being blackholed
  50. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  51. 2002-08-08 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Subject: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  52. 2002-08-08 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Subject: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  53. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  54. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  55. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] Re: FCC opens hearings Thursday to mandate digitial tuners/close analog hole
  56. 2002-08-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  57. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  58. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  59. 2002-08-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] Re: [fairuse] Re: FCC opens hearings Thursday
  60. 2002-08-08 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  61. 2002-08-07 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  62. 2002-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: removed from sle
  63. 2002-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: removed from sle
  64. 2002-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [hitchhiker-at-cybermail.net: [novalug] Getting Linux into an office]
  65. 2002-08-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [hitchhiker-at-cybermail.net: [novalug] Getting Linux into an office]
  66. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] win2k sp3
  67. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] win2k sp3
  68. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] win2k sp3
  69. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] win2k sp3
  70. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Downtown Brooklyn Posiibilities
  71. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Downtown Brooklyn Posiibilities
  72. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Possibilities in Downtown Brooklyn
  73. 2002-08-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Possibilities in Downtown Brooklyn
  74. 2002-08-06 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] information request
  75. 2002-08-06 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Full Schedule of August 2002 Free Software Institute Classes
  76. 2002-08-06 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Full Schedule of August 2002 Free Software Institute Classes
  77. 2002-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SF - Marching On City hall for Free Software
  78. 2002-08-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: an inservice,
  79. 2002-08-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Organization and Goals (fwd)
  80. 2002-08-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Organization and Goals (fwd)
  81. 2002-08-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More Jobs
  82. 2002-08-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  83. 2002-08-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  84. 2002-08-09 Alan Wiess <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  85. 2002-08-09 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: boat trip
  86. 2002-08-09 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: boat trip
  87. 2002-08-09 From: "Michael E. George" <meg7-at-nyu.edu> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  88. 2002-08-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  89. 2002-08-09 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> RE: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  90. 2002-08-09 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> RE: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  91. 2002-08-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: boat trip
  92. 2002-08-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: boat trip
  93. 2002-08-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: boat trip
  94. 2002-08-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: boat trip
  95. 2002-08-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: boat trip
  96. 2002-08-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: boat trip
  97. 2002-08-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: boat trip
  98. 2002-08-09 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: boat trip
  99. 2002-08-09 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  100. 2002-08-09 Joe Grastara <jfg205-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  101. 2002-08-09 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Class Location Idea
  102. 2002-08-09 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Class Location Idea
  103. 2002-08-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FCC meeting on C-SPAN
  104. 2002-08-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FCC meeting on C-SPAN
  105. 2002-08-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  106. 2002-08-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  107. 2002-08-08 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] FCC meeting on C-SPAN
  108. 2002-08-08 Seth Johnson <seth.johnson-at-realmeasures.dyndns.org> Subject: [hangout] FCC meeting on C-SPAN
  109. 2002-08-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Show 'em Knoppix
  110. 2002-08-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Show 'em Knoppix
  111. 2002-08-08 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] quick question
  112. 2002-08-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  113. 2002-08-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Re: FCC Broadcast Flag Meeting Tomorrow
  114. 2002-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Seeking designers for NY Soaring Towers Coalition
  115. 2002-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Seeking designers for NY Soaring Towers Coalition
  116. 2002-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Seeking designers for NY Soaring Towers Coalition
  117. 2002-08-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Seeking designers for NY Soaring Towers Coalition
  118. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  119. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  120. 2002-08-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  121. 2002-08-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  122. 2002-08-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Databases Everywhere
  123. 2002-08-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Databases Everywhere
  124. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  125. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Summeer party
  126. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Summeer party
  127. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  128. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  129. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Demo
  130. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Business Demo
  131. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Jounal
  132. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Jounal
  133. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  134. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  135. 2002-08-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Databases Everywhere
  136. 2002-08-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  137. 2002-08-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  138. 2002-08-17 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> RE: [hangout] RPM HELL
  139. 2002-08-17 From: "j. ercole" <ercole-at-speakeasy.org> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  140. 2002-08-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  141. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  142. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  143. 2002-08-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  144. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  145. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  146. 2002-08-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  147. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] grepping
  148. 2002-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] grepping
  149. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] LaGuardia any?
  150. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute Education Program
  151. 2002-08-16 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia any?
  152. 2002-08-16 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia any?
  153. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Summer Blast-off
  154. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Summer Blast-off
  155. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open Source Rally Cry/Call to Arms
  156. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Thank you for the great CPE program this year
  157. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Thank you for the great CPE program this year
  158. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Server on DSL?
  159. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Server on DSL?
  160. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Safe Form Data
  161. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Safe Form Data
  162. 2002-08-16 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Server on DSL?
  163. 2002-08-16 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Server on DSL?
  164. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open Source Rally Cry/Call to Arms
  165. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open Source Rally Cry/Call to Arms
  166. 2002-08-16 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  167. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  168. 2002-08-16 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source Rally Cry/Call to Arms
  169. 2002-08-16 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source Rally Cry/Call to Arms
  170. 2002-08-16 alex <alexc2649-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  171. 2002-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  172. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  173. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  174. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  175. 2002-08-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  176. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  177. 2002-08-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I need secondary (slave) servers
  178. 2002-08-16 From: "j. ercole" <ercole-at-speakeasy.org> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  179. 2002-08-16 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] RPM HELL
  180. 2002-08-16 From: "j. ercole" <ercole-at-speakeasy.org> Re: [hangout] Re: your mail
  181. 2002-08-16 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] I need secondary (slave) servers
  182. 2002-08-16 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  183. 2002-08-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hey Paul
  184. 2002-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Mission
  185. 2002-08-15 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  186. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Vote for a Boat for Aug 24th
  187. 2002-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  188. 2002-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  189. 2002-08-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  190. 2002-08-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  191. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [joek-at-dtg-usa.com: [wwwac] Jr. C/UNIX Programmers- Recruiter]
  192. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [joek-at-dtg-usa.com: [wwwac] Jr. C/UNIX Programmers- Recruiter]
  193. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Oligopolist moves some stuff to GNU/Linux
  194. 2002-08-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  195. 2002-08-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  196. 2002-08-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  197. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Internet Society on Digital Restrictions Management
  198. 2002-08-15 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  199. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RPM HELL
  200. 2002-08-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RPM HELL
  201. 2002-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] phpgroupware wonderstuff
  202. 2002-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] phpgroupware wonderstuff
  203. 2002-08-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] NYC-CHI Social Wed. Aug. 21 6:30-8:30 [sweiss-at-usableproducts.com]
  204. 2002-08-14 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Pleeze Pleeze
  205. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [wwwac] Help with find in Bash [201317289277747490006-at-spamex.com]
  206. 2002-08-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Pleeze Pleeze
  207. 2002-08-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Pleeze Pleeze
  208. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your Linux Today Security Letter for August 13, 2002 [listsupport-at-internet.com]
  209. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your Linux Today Security Letter for August 13, 2002 [listsupport-at-internet.com]
  210. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  211. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout]
  212. 2002-08-13 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] state of affairs summary: Hollywood vs. us
  213. 2002-08-13 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] state of affairs summary: Hollywood vs. us
  214. 2002-08-13 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  215. 2002-08-13 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  216. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  217. 2002-08-13 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  218. 2002-08-13 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  219. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  220. 2002-08-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  221. 2002-08-13 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  222. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?]
  223. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?]
  224. 2002-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  225. 2002-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DSL through PPoE?
  226. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY DEMO
  227. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY DEMO
  228. 2002-08-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source in California....
  229. 2002-08-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Source in California....
  230. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  231. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Boat Update
  232. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Boat Update
  233. 2002-08-12 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  234. 2002-08-12 wynkoop-at-wynn.com Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  235. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  236. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  237. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  238. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  239. 2002-08-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Strength of Free Software
  240. 2002-08-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Strength of Free Software
  241. 2002-08-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  242. 2002-08-12 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  243. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  244. 2002-08-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FW: Boats
  245. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  246. 2002-08-12 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Boats
  247. 2002-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  248. 2002-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  249. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  250. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  251. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  252. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] X-chat and ident service
  253. 2002-08-12 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Boats?
  254. 2002-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Boats?
  255. 2002-08-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Boats?
  256. 2002-08-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  257. 2002-08-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  258. 2002-08-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Office tutorial from the Line Journal
  259. 2002-08-24 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] should I chroot my name servers?
  260. 2002-08-24 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] should I chroot my name servers?
  261. 2002-08-23 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] should I chroot my name servers?
  262. 2002-08-23 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] should I chroot my name servers?
  263. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] An addition point to our phone conversation
  264. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] An addition point to our phone conversation
  265. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] An addition point to our phone conversation
  266. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] An addition point to our phone conversation
  267. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Why is it these people are SOOOOO Stupid
  268. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Why is it these people are SOOOOO Stupid
  269. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  270. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [fairuse] Re: [hangout] Organization and Achiving Goals
  271. 2002-08-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] email programs
  272. 2002-08-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] email programs
  273. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Cruise on Newsforge front page
  274. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Cruise on Newsforge front page
  275. 2002-08-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] NYC bookstore for Linux books
  276. 2002-08-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] NYC bookstore for Linux books
  277. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Immense value of X Terminal Demo
  278. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Immense value of X Terminal Demo
  279. 2002-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Also awake...
  280. 2002-08-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Also awake...
  281. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Lindows faces a reality check
  282. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYC bookstore for Linux books
  283. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Also awake...
  284. 2002-08-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] email programs
  285. 2002-08-23 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] email programs
  286. 2002-08-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Office Class
  287. 2002-08-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bordeaux Freance had a good Menu
  288. 2002-08-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] A recision is a good thing
  289. 2002-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Pagging Joe Grastara
  290. 2002-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Pagging Joe Grastara
  291. 2002-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Beer Ball
  292. 2002-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Beer Ball
  293. 2002-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Houston to Ruben, Houston to Ruben, Houston to Ruben
  294. 2002-08-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
  295. 2002-08-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
  296. 2002-08-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Causative reasons for the Civil War
  297. 2002-08-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] ASHA move
  298. 2002-08-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> RE: [hangout] ASHA move
  299. 2002-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [dplist-admin-at-danielpipes.org: #247: Pipes & Schanz er on "Saddam's Rap Sheet"]
  300. 2002-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Office tutorial from the Line Journal
  301. 2002-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Open Office tutorial from the Line Journal
  302. 2002-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn News
  303. 2002-08-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn News
  304. 2002-08-21 From: <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Wednesday 21 August 2002 WWWAC Drinking and Eating
  305. 2002-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [procmail-at-tradersdata.com: Reciepe Problem
  306. 2002-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [procmail-at-tradersdata.com: Reciepe Problem
  307. 2002-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I miss...
  308. 2002-08-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Debian install
  309. 2002-08-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  310. 2002-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ann
  311. 2002-08-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  312. 2002-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  313. 2002-08-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  314. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  315. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  316. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  317. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  318. 2002-08-19 Justin Clift <justin-at-postgresql.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  319. 2002-08-19 Justin Clift <justin-at-postgresql.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  320. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hurry, get links to nyfairuse and NYLXS in at this story just posted
  321. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] OOo...the Vision thing
  322. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] All Hail PHPGROUPWARE
  323. 2002-08-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] All Hail PHPGROUPWARE
  324. 2002-08-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  325. 2002-08-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  326. 2002-08-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  327. 2002-08-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  328. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A New Way to Influence Washington
  329. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] A New Way to Influence Washington
  330. 2002-08-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] A New Way to Influence Washington
  331. 2002-08-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] A New Way to Influence Washington
  332. 2002-08-19 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] A New Way to Influence Washington
  333. 2002-08-19 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] A New Way to Influence Washington
  334. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  335. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL
  336. 2002-08-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RPM HELL
  337. 2002-08-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RPM HELL
  338. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Think bigger than Tara
  339. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Think bigger than Tara
  340. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  341. 2002-08-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  342. 2002-08-19 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  343. 2002-08-19 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  344. 2002-08-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: nylxs move (fwd)
  345. 2002-08-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [novalug] Fwd: Re: [hangout] Fwd: Department of Commerce Report [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com] [a1enviro-at-cloud9.net]
  346. 2002-08-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show on Sunday..
  347. 2002-08-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Department of Commerce Report [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  348. 2002-08-31 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: GNU/Linux Free SOftware Organization to offer you free (as in Beer)training [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  349. 2002-08-29 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] ASHA
  350. 2002-08-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Hangout-Clone List Admin Message for Brett Wynkoop
  351. 2002-08-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  352. 2002-08-28 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  353. 2002-08-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  354. 2002-08-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  355. 2002-08-28 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  356. 2002-08-28 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  357. 2002-08-28 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  358. 2002-08-28 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] [events-at-mail.lokmail.net: Tonight! Reverend Billy at Den of Cin- Campaign to ReClaimThe.Net]
  359. 2002-08-28 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] [events-at-mail.lokmail.net: Tonight! Reverend Billy at Den of Cin- Campaign to ReClaimThe.Net]
  360. 2002-08-28 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FW: Linux Oct 23 at LAGCC
  361. 2002-08-28 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FW: Linux Oct 23 at LAGCC
  362. 2002-08-28 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  363. 2002-08-28 From: <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  364. 2002-08-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RADIO SHOW
  365. 2002-08-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RADIO SHOW
  366. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  367. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  368. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  369. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  370. 2002-08-27 Joe Villari <joev-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  371. 2002-08-27 Joe Villari <joev-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] June Journal HTML Complete
  372. 2002-08-27 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  373. 2002-08-27 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  374. 2002-08-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  375. 2002-08-27 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  376. 2002-08-27 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Important read...
  377. 2002-08-27 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Important read...
  378. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  379. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  380. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  381. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Denmark
  382. 2002-08-27 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  383. 2002-08-27 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  384. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Suggestions for classes
  385. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Suggestions for classes
  386. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Suggestions for classes
  387. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Membership Web Pages
  388. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  389. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  390. 2002-08-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  391. 2002-08-27 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  392. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  393. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  394. 2002-08-27 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  395. 2002-08-27 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  396. 2002-08-27 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  397. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  398. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Closing Down Asha
  399. 2002-08-27 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Walmart
  400. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Denmark
  401. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Demo topics and schedule, [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  402. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Demo topics and schedule, [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  403. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Walmart
  404. 2002-08-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Walmart
  405. 2002-08-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] cruise 2
  406. 2002-08-26 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  407. 2002-08-26 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  408. 2002-08-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  409. 2002-08-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  410. 2002-08-26 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  411. 2002-08-26 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia Demo: Nailing down the program
  412. 2002-08-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Demo topics and schedule,
  413. 2002-08-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Demo topics and schedule,
  414. 2002-08-26 bruce ingalls <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> Subject: [hangout] cruise 2
  415. 2002-08-26 bruce ingalls <bingalls-at-fit-zones.com> Subject: [hangout] cruise 2
  416. 2002-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Recording Music
  417. 2002-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [novalug] Recording Music
  418. 2002-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Last Nights Boat Ride
  419. 2002-08-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Last Nights Boat Ride
  420. 2002-08-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Last Nights Boat Ride
  421. 2002-08-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Last Nights Boat Ride
  422. 2002-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Demo topics and schedule,
  423. 2002-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Demo topics and schedule,
  424. 2002-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Nights Boat Ride
  425. 2002-08-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Nights Boat Ride
  426. 2002-08-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] GPS Log
  427. 2002-08-25 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Bordeaux Freance had a good Menu
  428. 2002-08-25 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Demo topics and schedule,
  429. 2002-08-25 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: Demo topics and schedule,
  430. 2002-08-19 From: "j . ercole" <ercole-at-speakeasy.org> Re: [hangout] RPM HELL

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