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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-05-23
FROM Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop

To be honest, Burlington Coatrack factrory is making a mistake.



The Free Software desktops are actually better than the slave-ware
versions of Software.


There is a problem, however, of verticle application markets. I was
hoping that the FSCC would beable to begin filling in these needs, but
I haven't been able to jump start that aspect of things .... (yet).

>From a functionality POV, X is hugely better than either Mac or Windwos,



Ruben


On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:21:00PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
>
> You can be honest just don't say the words "Linux is not ready for the
> desktop". People will accept a product with weak points. If you tell them
> it is not ready they won't accept it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 1:13 PM
> To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the
> Des ktop
>
>
>
> And My Point is that you should be brutally honest when describing the
> strong points and weak points of any product, irregardless of whether its
> BSD, GPL, lGPL, or Proprietary licensed.
>
> Its sometimes more helpful to criticize a product with the hopes that the
> developers (Not in MS case though..) will make modifications/changes.
>
> "The Truth Will Set Ye Free"
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:05 PM
> To: 'Inker, Evan'; Michael Richardson; 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
> ktop
>
>
> My point is that so long as those who produce, upgrade and promote a product
> says it is not ready, most people will not want to invest in it or use it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: 'Michael Richardson'; 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
> ktop
>
>
>
> Michael,
>
> You are not getting the point! "Business Perception" is business perception,
> not fact nor revelations nor truly unbiased Technical statistics. MS has
> raised this to a "pissing and media contest" and nothing else.
> Unfortunately, your idea of "Most of the people won't know if you don't keep
> saying it" is just plain stupid! If you follow that logic, you are just as
> bad as MS. Whether its MS or Linux, lets be honest regarding capabilities
> (not just pricing) of the OS. While I have issues with MS practices, media
> blitzes and security, Linux is not the "End All" of all OSs. I would like to
> see Open Source OSs and applications flourish and prosper but in all
> reality, proprietary systems are not going to totally disappear.
>
> As far as MS not being ready for the desktop, I would say its not ready for
> the Back-End/Server side more so than for the desktop. Due to the
> proliferation of insecure MS Desktop/Office products (mind you I said
> insecure and badly developed but nevertheless effective and productive
> software). This is an area where Linux, BSD and Unix must play a game of
> producing their own reliable and easily integrated Open Source "Office Like
> products (similar but lets not play a game of copying MS designs; Evolution
> and GIMP are great examples of good Linux Open Source products which any MS
> user can utilize) which doesn't need a "Rocket Scientist" to install.
>
> Bottom Line for Business is "Use the Right Product for the Right Job". I
> would hope that the "Right Product" would be Open Source but that isn't
> always the case....
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Richardson [mailto:MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:11 AM
> To: 'Inker, Evan'; 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
> ktop
>
>
> First thing those in the Free and Open Source community have to stop saying
> "Linux is not ready for the desktop". STOP SAYING THAT!!!. Most of the
> people won't know if you don't keep saying it. M$ is not ready for the
> desktop (it keeps crashing). But they don't keep that in the buyer's face.
> Look at where they are at.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inker, Evan [mailto:EInker-at-gam.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 10:01 AM
> To: 'hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
>
>
>
> Linux lags on the desktop
> Jennifer Maselli, InformationWeek
> Friday, 11 April 2003
>
> Associates at Burlington Coat Factory Warehouse Corp.'s more than 330 stores
> have used Linux-based point-of-sale systems, inventory applications, and
> gift registries for more than two years. But CIO Michael Prince drew the
> line at desktops in the company's headquarters: Linux wasn't ready, for a
> slew of technical reasons.
>
> Until now. A lot has changed in the last six months, Prince says. Support
> from key vendors and advancements in the compatibility of Linux software
> gave him reason to put StarOffice, Sun Microsystems' desktop software suite
> that runs on Linux and other operating systems, on 300 office PCs. He uses
> it himself. But here's the catch: The corporate PCs still run Microsoft's
> Windows, and Prince hasn't abandoned Microsoft Office. He wants Burlington
> office staff to have the same applications as the retail stores, but he
> doesn't yet think a corporate transition to Linux on the desktop is worth
> the trouble of migrating existing data and retraining employees.
>
> Linux looks increasingly like a technically viable option as an operating
> system for PCs, but it's still one that's rarely considered seriously in
> business environments. That's despite wide use of the open-source system in
> many companies' IT infrastructures: Research firm IDC says Linux has 14% of
> the US$50.9 billion market for server operating systems and will climb to
> No. 2 behind Windows by 2006. Replacing server software and training IT
> staff to use Linux is one thing; getting knowledge workers to use a new
> system makes even the several-hundred-dollar savings between the Microsoft
> Office productivity suite and a Linux suite such as StarOffice not enough
> for most IT execs. "They're not willing to make a change from Microsoft when
> the Windows software is handling their needs and users are comfortable with
> it," says Nicholas Petreley, an analyst for research company Evans Data.
>
> Linux on the desktop is confined mostly to workstations that rely heavily on
> graphics for digital-content creation and product engineering, says Jim
> McDonnell, senior VP of marketing for Hewlett-Packard's personal systems
> group. "This makes sense because it's taking advantage of the operating
> system for performance," he says.
> But vendors haven't given up trying. Sun's latest low-cost Linux PC, slated
> to ship this summer, could spur wider use of the system on desktops, says
> Bill Claybrook, research director for Linux and open source at the Aberdeen
> Group. "Linux hasn't made a dent in the desktop marketplace so far, but
> things will change," he predicts.
>
> Other changes are under way. Oracle said last month it will offer technical
> support to customers using open-source software from the UnitedLinux
> consortium. In February, CodeWeavers Inc. and Tarantella Inc. started
> bundling together Tarantella's Enterprise 3 access software with
> CodeWeavers' CrossOver Office Server Edition, to let users access Office
> applications from a client running Linux via a Java-enabled Web browser.
> Also, Ximian Inc., a maker of Linux-based desktop-productivity applications,
> says a version of its software, to be released this spring, will tightly
> integrate with Windows.
>
> The technical barriers are steadily falling away, Burlington's Prince says.
> Many of the company's applications have been loaded using Oracle's toolsets,
> and IT workers at Burlington use those same Oracle toolsets to do
> development work. Until recently, the toolset used to develop and deploy the
> applications required a special version of Java called Oracle J-Initiator,
> and up until a few months ago it had been available only on Windows. Oracle
> teamed with Sun to add Linux support, Prince says. Still, some of the
> company's older Oracle applications aren't Linux-compatible.
>
> StarOffice 6.0 can open Microsoft Word and Excel documents, removing one of
> the most annoying problems of the past, Prince says. By deploying both
> StarOffice and Windows on corporate PCs, he hopes to ease any eventual
> transition to Linux. Still, a migration is a migration, so Prince isn't
> making a major operating system or productivity-suite change right now. "I'm
> not sure there's any payback in migrating people," he says. "Cost-wise,
> Linux is better, and it's more reliable, but migrating users one-by-one is a
> big effort." Prince will encourage new employees to use Linux instead of
> Windows, but he won't force them. "We want people to use what they're
> comfortable with," he says.
>
> Linux still has shortcomings. Rory Hudson, retail systems manager for Zumiez
> Inc., a retailer with 100 stores, deployed PCs running Linux in stores so
> managers can access a company intranet and Linux-based E-mail and
> spreadsheets for financial reporting. But he's keeping Windows at
> headquarters to do some of the company's more-complicated PC-based work. "We
> wouldn't consider switching off of Windows, because we have advanced
> spreadsheets and Excel handles those really well," Hudson says. "We've found
> a really good niche for each operating system." That includes Apple
> Macintoshes for the company's graphic designers.
>
> Aberdeen analyst Claybrook has his own Linux experience. He dabbled with the
> open-source system on his desktop but dropped it because some document
> formatting was lost when files were sent to a Windows machine. "We have a
> specific format that we need to follow when we send reports, so I couldn't
> afford those discrepancies," Claybrook says.
> Laptop users also face challenges. "Laptops are tougher to run Linux [on]
> because they've got more proprietary devices, and not very many are designed
> for Linux," Prince says. "It's doable, but it's a lot of work."
>
> Some business-technology executives are just getting comfortable with
> running Linux on their servers, where it has something of a track record for
> value and performance; Linux on the desktop isn't even in the planning
> stages. PNC Bank is evaluating whether to move some servers to Linux and
> plans a limited test this year. The bank is confident it can lower costs and
> increase performance using Linux. But it isn't even considering a desktop
> change. "We don't really have a need for faster performance at the desktop
> level, so there's not the same push to evaluate Linux on the desktop," a
> spokeswoman says.
>
> For those who choose to take the plunge, however, there are savings to be
> had. Zumiez's Hudson says that running either Windows or Unix on
> point-of-sale computers in all stores would have cost about US$1,000 per
> store. Zumiez went with free Linux systems for the 19 stores it opened last
> year. Sun's StarOffice suite lists at US$50 per machine for 125 users, to
> US$25 for 10,000; that compares with an average price of about US$400 for
> Office.
>
> Ernie Ball Inc. turned to Linux out of crisis more than cost savings. Three
> years ago, the global manufacturer of guitar strings was slammed by the
> Business Software Alliance for running more copies of Windows than the
> company had paid for. Then there were the pirated copies of software from
> Autodesk Inc. and FileMaker Inc. It was the spark that turned Ernie Ball
> into a Linux hot spot. "We had 120 days to comply with the BSA, and we
> complied by throwing everything out," says Jeff Whitmore, an IT manager at
> Ernie Ball.
>
> The company operates almost all of its business on open-source software,
> including Red Hat Linux on its desktops and servers, StarOffice on PCs, and
> E-mail from Ximian. Whitmore says the company spent about US$20,000 to make
> the switch and cut US$80,000 to US$100,000 a year from its IT budget. With a
> little more than 70 users, the IT staff handled training on the fly. "There
> wasn't a lot of training involved, and we just handled questions from users
> as they popped up," he says.
>
> For now, Microsoft commands more than 90% of the desktop market, and most
> users seem comfortable with what its productivity apps cost for what they
> deliver. With its upcoming Office suite, Microsoft will try to pull further
> ahead of competitors. That leaves only a little wiggle room for Linux, as it
> battles the inertia of an installed base.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan
>
>
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  36. 2003-05-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Proposed PR process resolution
  37. 2003-05-04 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] RIAA attacking our culture, the American mind
  38. 2003-05-04 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Proposed PR process resolution
  39. 2003-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More PR Resources
  40. 2003-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] NY Times Suprise
  41. 2003-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Times Suprise
  42. 2003-05-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PR Outlets
  43. 2003-05-03 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylug-talk] what is copyright abuse?
  44. 2003-05-03 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Suse upgrade
  45. 2003-05-02 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Rolls Out iLoo
  46. 2003-05-02 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Free Junk - is Apache ready for
  47. 2003-05-02 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use nails Content Industry on several lies
  48. 2003-05-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [rms-at-gnu.org: Re: Free Junk - is Apache ready for the enterprise]
  49. 2003-05-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] lost all information on home partition
  50. 2003-05-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] lost all information on home partition
  51. 2003-05-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  52. 2003-05-02 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Sobro venture center
  53. 2003-05-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] lost all information on home partition
  54. 2003-05-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  55. 2003-05-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  56. 2003-05-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] New OOdraw format logos in /docs
  57. 2003-05-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  58. 2003-05-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  59. 2003-05-01 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  60. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Future Jobs
  61. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Cisco Spyware
  62. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital TV
  63. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Fight
  64. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Suite
  65. 2003-05-01 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  66. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  67. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  68. 2003-05-01 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  69. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  70. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: What's with this Stanco guy?
  71. 2003-05-01 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] What's with this Stanco guy?
  72. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] City Free Software use and the Board of Education
  73. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Free Software use and the Board of Education
  74. 2003-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  75. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Free software center - donation [wfitzgerald-at-livetechnology.com]
  76. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  77. 2003-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  78. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Adam - Call me now
  79. 2003-05-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  80. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Handbilling
  81. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Chance to make the trip to Washington for DMCA hearings
  82. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] P2P legal
  83. 2003-05-31 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn has free Wi-Fi???
  84. 2003-05-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IMPORTANT CHANGE IN Previous Class Schedule
  85. 2003-05-30 From: "Rob Stupay" <vze3426u-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] 3d
  86. 2003-05-30 From: "Rob Stupay" <vze3426u-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] a newsletter question
  87. 2003-05-30 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [ Speakeasy ] Notice: Network Outage in NYC - Recap
  88. 2003-05-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule Changes
  89. 2003-05-30 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Education meeting report soon to come
  90. 2003-05-30 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] CSS issue fixed
  91. 2003-05-29 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Arguments made in DVD-cracking case
  92. 2003-05-29 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Good News for NYLXS
  93. 2003-05-29 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Good News for NYLXS
  94. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  95. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  96. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Good News for NYLXS
  97. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Destros needed
  98. 2003-05-29 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Destros needed
  99. 2003-05-29 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Novell's letter to SCO
  100. 2003-05-28 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO's response to Novell
  101. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell's letter to SCO
  102. 2003-05-28 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell's letter to SCO
  103. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell calls on SCO to prove allegations about Linux
  104. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] German software group threatens to sue SCO on Linux
  105. 2003-05-28 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC- Tuesday Minutes
  106. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  107. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Agenda for Meeting
  108. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva NYLXS Recording Secretary <selsok-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educational committee meeting tomorrow
  109. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Agenda for Meeting
  110. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Agenda for Meeting
  111. 2003-05-28 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  112. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  113. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  114. 2003-05-28 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  115. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  116. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  117. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  118. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  119. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  120. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  121. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  122. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  123. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  124. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  125. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  126. 2003-05-28 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  127. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  128. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  129. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  130. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  131. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  132. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  133. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  134. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  135. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: add RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  136. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> add RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  137. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  138. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  139. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Destros needed
  140. 2003-05-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
  141. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Possible attacks in Brooklyn this week
  142. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CSS fun!
  143. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
  144. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  145. 2003-05-27 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  146. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  147. 2003-05-27 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  148. 2003-05-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
  149. 2003-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  150. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  151. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  152. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [mbac-at-netgraft.com: [wwwac] MySQL AB is looking for New York hires]
  153. 2003-05-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
  154. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [mbac-at-netgraft.com: [wwwac] MySQL AB is looking for New York hires]
  155. 2003-05-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] CSS fun!
  156. 2003-05-27 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] New Yawk Unjacked
  157. 2003-05-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Darl McBride Interview
  158. 2003-05-26 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fscc
  159. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  160. 2003-05-26 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  161. 2003-05-26 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] we need nylxser
  162. 2003-05-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  163. 2003-05-26 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  164. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] we need nylxser
  165. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  166. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  167. 2003-05-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  168. 2003-05-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  169. 2003-05-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> another word on this Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  170. 2003-05-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  171. 2003-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  172. 2003-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  173. 2003-05-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Some terms I did not know existed.
  174. 2003-05-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] media and fcc on ch 13 now
  175. 2003-05-23 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Evening FSCC Meetings
  176. 2003-05-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Why can't they do it here?
  177. 2003-05-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Prepare yourself to feel the hate
  178. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] It's not just Microsoft taking advantage of ignorance
  179. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Jamie.Katz-at-Workstreaminc.com: Career Event: Seminar in New York City, May 28th]
  180. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [miker-at-internetmovies.com: [DMCA-Activists] INTERNETMOVIES.COM appeals to U.S. Ninth Circuit Court against MPAA]
  181. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  182. 2003-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  183. 2003-05-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  184. 2003-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  185. 2003-05-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  186. 2003-05-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] God almighty
  187. 2003-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  188. 2003-05-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
  189. 2003-05-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Ulimate Geek-Network Event
  190. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] God almighty
  191. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] mbox_splitter.py
  192. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] More weaseling
  193. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] God almighty
  194. 2003-05-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] God almighty
  195. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  196. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes
  197. 2003-05-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  198. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  199. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  200. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Idiocy, or Incompetence?
  201. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes small correction
  202. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  203. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  204. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  205. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Correction
  206. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Correction
  207. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes
  208. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  209. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] we need nylxser
  210. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  211. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes
  212. 2003-05-22 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Re: [hangout] Congratulations
  213. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Congratulations
  214. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Congratulations
  215. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] PR for Classes
  216. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  217. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] we need nylxser
  218. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Crains NY for PR
  219. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia FS Business Demo
  220. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  221. 2003-05-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  222. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  223. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Cartoons
  224. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Education and more read me
  225. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  226. 2003-05-21 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Education and more read me
  227. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLUG Meeting tonight
  228. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] It's more than an Installfeast!
  229. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  230. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  231. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  232. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  233. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  234. 2003-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  235. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  236. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Re: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  237. 2003-05-20 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  238. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  239. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  240. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  241. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  242. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  243. 2003-05-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: A thought
  244. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  245. 2003-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  246. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  247. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  248. 2003-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  249. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  250. 2003-05-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  251. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  252. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  253. 2003-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  254. 2003-05-20 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM to sell Linux Biz desktops
  255. 2003-05-20 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  256. 2003-05-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Some Encouraging News from Abroad...
  257. 2003-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Wording: Free Software Classes
  258. 2003-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Wording: Free Software Classes
  259. 2003-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  260. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  261. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Brought to you by:
  262. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tech Commitee Meeting
  263. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: A thought
  264. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  265. 2003-05-19 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Wireless Broad Band Security
  266. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linux 1 Class
  267. 2003-05-19 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  268. 2003-05-19 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: A thought
  269. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  270. 2003-05-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Commitee Meeting
  271. 2003-05-19 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  272. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] A thought
  273. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] For some of us, it was already clear...
  274. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  275. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] egovos 3
  276. 2003-05-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] egovos 3
  277. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Alt schools demo
  278. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  279. 2003-05-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: Alt schools demo
  280. 2003-05-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft to license Unix code
  281. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Federal Solution
  282. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Alt schools demo
  283. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft to license Unix code
  284. 2003-05-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft to license Unix code
  285. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Tech Commitee Meeting
  286. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  287. 2003-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Desktop Linux Ready to Roll Over Windows] (fwd)
  288. 2003-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Desktop Linux Ready to Roll Over Windows] (fwd)
  289. 2003-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  290. 2003-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Desktop Linux Ready to Roll Over Windows] (fwd)
  291. 2003-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  292. 2003-05-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  293. 2003-05-18 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  294. 2003-05-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] irc security news and the law
  295. 2003-05-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD Software takes a legal blow vs DMCA
  296. 2003-05-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] So how did it go?
  297. 2003-05-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Petition
  298. 2003-05-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Comuters Work Reguations from the Dept of Labor
  299. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] baby is comming
  300. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] the things i have
  301. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] links to edu stuff
  302. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] baby comming
  303. 2003-05-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  304. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  305. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] These are some articals
  306. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  307. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  308. 2003-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  309. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  310. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] found another one that proves computers don't work in schools
  311. 2003-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting Tomorrow
  312. 2003-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  313. 2003-05-16 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO is full of it...
  314. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  315. 2003-05-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  316. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  317. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] updated flyers for may-june classes
  318. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  319. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 7.1 dropped from support
  320. 2003-05-15 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Ballmer on Linux
  321. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] More details for sat.
  322. 2003-05-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: alt-tech seminar talks
  323. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE (fwd)
  324. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] alt-tech seminar talks
  325. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Edited and Proofed after discussing with Marco NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE (fwd)
  326. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  327. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Edited and Proofed after discussing with Marco NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE (fwd)
  328. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  329. 2003-05-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Edited and Proofed after discussing with Marco NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE
  330. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  331. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  332. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  333. 2003-05-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  334. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  335. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  336. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] you can get tha address from this link
  337. 2003-05-15 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] you can get tha address from this link
  338. 2003-05-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Up to No-Good Again!
  339. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  340. 2003-05-15 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  341. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  342. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Classes - Registration Form -
  343. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Announcement
  344. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [ANN] Novusweb Creates Innovative Cooperative - Seeks Talented Web Specialists [bill-at-blueworld.com]
  345. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Announcement
  346. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ebay Scam you should be aware of
  347. 2003-05-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] For future reference
  348. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  349. 2003-05-14 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  350. 2003-05-14 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] SCO's Letter to Linux Users/Customers
  351. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO's Letter to Linux Users/Customers
  352. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  353. 2003-05-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO's Letter to Linux Users/Customers
  354. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Subway Fare scaled Back Again!
  355. 2003-05-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  356. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  357. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  358. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  359. 2003-05-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  360. 2003-05-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  361. 2003-05-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  362. 2003-05-14 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  363. 2003-05-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  364. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  365. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  366. 2003-05-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  367. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  368. 2003-05-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  369. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What do I put here?
  370. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Can you email the NYLUG List
  371. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Can you email the NYLUG List
  372. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] The Matrix Reloaded
  373. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  374. 2003-05-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Headline - When copy protection backfires
  375. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] looking at headers - ignor
  376. 2003-05-20 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  377. 2003-05-19 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] hello again
  378. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  379. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  380. 2003-05-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [!CrackMonkey!] The Eric Aldred Act]

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