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DATE 2003-05-14
FROM Dave Williams
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] For future reference

Perhaps someone will forward this to the next person who invites
Microsoft to an Open Source Event (according to this, they'll sneak in
anyway):

"For Microsoft, market dominance doesn't seem enough"
Thomas Fuller/IHT International Herald Tribune
Wednesday, May 14, 2003

- Discounts for biggest users are aimed at keeping software rivals at
bay

BRUSSELS: More than 90 percent of the world's personal computers run on
Microsoft software. For Orlando Ayala, that was not enough.

Last summer, Ayala, then the top sales executive at Microsoft Corp.,
sent an e-mail titled "Microsoft Confidential" to senior managers laying
out a strategy to dissuade governments across the globe from choosing
cheaper alternatives to the ubiquitous Windows operating system.

Ayala's e-mail told executives that if a deal involving governments or
large institutions looked doomed, they were authorized to draw from a
special internal fund to offer software at a steep discount, or free, if
necessary. Steve Ballmer, the Microsoft chief executive, was sent a copy
of the e-mail.

The memo, which focused on system software for desktop computers,
specifically targeted Linux, a still small but emerging competitor.
"Under NO circumstances lose against Linux," Ayala said.

This memo as well as other e-mails and internal Microsoft documents
obtained by the International Herald Tribune offer a rare glimpse into
the inner workings of a company with so much cash - $43.4 billion, as of
December - that it can aggressively discount its products in a bid to
protect its huge market share amid the wreckage of the technology
sector.

The documents show the muscle that the world's largest software company
is prepared to use to protect its dominance, including a relatively
benign form of corporate spying and discounts to capture "big plays" - a
Microsoft term for deals involving the world's biggest clients.

Yet these sales tactics also come with risks. The covert intelligence
gathering - including one case where a Microsoft employee attended a
Linux trade show pretending to be a consultant to an elementary school -
raises questions about whether Microsoft has pulled back from the
aggressive business practices that got it into so much trouble with
antitrust regulators in the 1990s.

Perhaps more importantly, certain discounts may run afoul of European
market regulators, who are currently investigating claims that Microsoft
violated antitrust laws.

Discounting is a normal corporate practice. But under European law,
companies that hold a dominant market position, such as Microsoft, are
prohibited from offering discounts that are designed to block
competitors from the market.

Microsoft has been concerned with the legality of its discounts in the
past, at one point consulting a London law firm on a specific discount
plan.

But in an interview Wednesday, the chairman of Microsoft operations in
Europe, Africa and the Middle East, Jean-Philippe Courtois, defended the
use of the special fund described in Ayala's e-mail, saying it was part
of a strategy to be "competitive" and "relevant" in the market for big
government and educational deals.

"Linux is obviously a key competitor," Courtois said. Rivals use similar
tactics, he said.

Sun Microsystems Inc., for example, "is giving away StarOffice to
basically governments and schools," he said. The suite of programs runs
on both Windows and Linux systems.

Courtois also said Microsoft sometimes gave away software to "very low
income countries." He cited a program where Microsoft donated software
in South Africa and helped train teachers to use it.

Ayala's memo says the discounting fund could be used for "developed and
developing countries" but says an "initial focus" was being put on Latin
America, Africa, the Middle East, India and China.

In his e-mail, Ayala focused on governments and large institutions. A
separate memo obtained by the IHT shows a discounting program for
corporate customers worldwide. Two days after Ayala sent his memo, Mike
Sinneck, head of Microsoft's services department, sent an e-mail giving
details of what he called Business Investment Funds, established to
provide corporate clients with discounts on the hourly rates charged by
Microsoft's consulting business.

The memo said nearly $180 million had been allocated for this purpose in
the 2003 financial year, which ends in June; $140 million of that was
earmarked for consulting services for server software, where Microsoft
has a leading market share but still faces lively competition.

Servers are the powerful computers corporations use to store data,
manage Web sites or perform other network tasks. The software that runs
servers is the subject of one of the two antitrust cases now open
against Microsoft in the European Union. European antitrust laws are
generally more strict than those of the United States. In broad terms,
Microsoft is accused of illegally leveraging its overwhelming dominance
in the PC software market into the server market.

Among the documents obtained by the IHT is an e-mail from outside legal
counsel to Microsoft that offers a precise interpretation of EU law on
the question of discounts, including his view that short-term
discounting would be more likely to escape EU scrutiny. The lawyer's
e-mail advised Microsoft that its discounts should not be
"discriminatory" among clients. The e-mail also said discounts could not
be designed to exclude competitors from the market.

"Discounts are not per se unlawful," Charles Stark, a former antitrust
official at the U.S. Justice Department and a partner at Wilmer, Cutler
Pickering in Brussels, said in an interview. "It depends on the market
circumstances and how they use them and what their impact is."

Stark, who has not seen the documents, added: "But pricing behavior can
be viewed differently by a dominant firm than by a nondominant firm."

Asked whether the discounting program for server software consulting was
legal in Europe, given Microsoft's dominant position, Courtois, the
Microsoft executive, said consulting was a "break-even" business for the
company.

"We are not a global services company," he said, adding at a different
time: "We need to compete against the big guys." Courtois cited
International Business Machines Corp. and Oracle Corp. as companies with
large consulting businesses, unlike Microsoft, which he said was a "pure
software company."

- Battling the 'open-source' threat

The Microsoft documents show a particular preoccupation among top
managers with the so-called open-source movement, made up of programmers
who believe the software that runs computers should be freely available.
The code behind open-source software is available to the public,
allowing companies to customize their programs. This is in stark
contrast to Microsoft, which keeps most of its source code secret -
although governments and some corporations are increasingly allowed to
view the code, but not alter it.

Linux, the biggest open-source threat to Microsoft, has a tiny share of
the market for personal computer software. But Linux was installed with
26 percent of the server hardware sold to corporations last year,
according to International Data Corp., a market research company.
Windows was shipped with about 44 percent of servers, according to IDC.

The server market is one area where Linux has momentum. As economic
gloom persists in most developed countries, the use of Linux is being
encouraged by many governments, especially in Europe, as a cheaper and
perhaps more secure alternative to Windows software. The French
government, for example, has a Web site that recommends Linux systems
for its departments.

Ballmer once referred to Linux's licensing as "a cancer that attaches
itself in an intellectual-property sense to everything it touches."

In the face of this competition, the Microsoft documents show the
significant resources the company devotes to combat Linux, and the
unconventional tactics it sometimes uses.

Chris O'Rourke, a Microsoft employee, has described attending Linux
World, a trade fair in California, where he "purported to be an
independent computer consultant working with several K12 school
districts," according to his e-mail, which was sent on Aug. 20 last
year. K-12 schools include students from ages to 5 to 18.

"Ha!" O'Rourke wrote in the e-mail to his colleagues, referring to his
assumed identity. "In general, people bought this without question ...
hook, line and sinker."

O'Rourke said his goal was to glean intelligence about the competition.
His guise, he said, "got folks to open up and talk." O'Rourke did not
respond to a fax and voice-mail message seeking comment.

Another employee, Todd Brix, said he attended a Linux conference in June
2001 in San Jose, California, pretending to be an "ambivalent OEM."
Original equipment manufacturers, or OEMs, are companies such as
Hewlett-Packard Co. and Dell Computer Corp. that buy Windows software
licenses.

Reached at his office Tuesday, Brix said that when attending such a
show, "you don't broadcast that you're a Microsoft person."

"You don't disguise that fact," he said. "You just don't lead with your
chin."

The Microsoft documents also show a sophisticated and complex lobbying
program aimed at getting governments on their side. A confidential
document titled "Open Source Software Government: World Wide Initiative"
outlines the company's lobbying objectives.

One aim, the document says, is to "prevent adoption of procurement
policies favoring OSS," or open-source software. Legislators in several
European countries, including Denmark, France and Germany, have proposed
laws that would encourage or require government offices to adopt
open-source software.

Part of the company's strategy, the Microsoft document says, is to
emphasize to customers the pitfalls of the open-source movement.

The document says Microsoft employees lobbied ministries in Germany,
sought out favorable coverage in the French press and built "alliances"
with opinion leaders in Denmark.

But of all the tactics described in these documents, the two discount
programs appear to be the most aggressive - and perhaps most legally
questionable.

- A strategy to 'tip the scales'

Ayala sent his memo at 8:17 a.m. on Tuesday, July 16, 2002. In addition
to Ballmer, the recipients included the heads of major departments - Jim
Allchin and Jeff Raikes, both vice presidents - some of the company's
top lawyers and the general managers of Microsoft operations in Asia,
Europe, Africa and the Middle East.

Ayala said in the memo that in the "difficult economic environment,"
some institutions and companies were focusing on cheaper software.

Ayala said, "it is important that we have a way to address large PC
purchases that involve low-cost/no-cost competitors in the education
(and government) sectors, especially in emerging markets."

The solution, he said, was to "tip the scales" toward Microsoft in these
deals by using the special fund that he called the "Education and
Government Incentive Program."

The fund was to be used "only in deals we would lose otherwise," Ayala
said.

Ayala gave what he called an "example scenario" of a government that was
advocating using open-source software "in order to keep 'x' dollars
inside the country and save the taxpayers millions of dollars."

In his example scenario, the government was considering buying 50,000
PCs installed with locally produced software that cost $5 per computer.
(Microsoft software, by contrast, typically retails for hundreds of
dollars.)

"In order to compete more effectively against Linux and other providers
on these deals, we can now leverage the Education and Government
incentive [EDGI] program to help tip the scales to MS in the deal,"
Ayala said.

The discounts were "not to exceed" the royalties that Microsoft received
from the makers of the PCs, he said. In other words, managers could give
away the software free, if necessary, but were not authorized to offer a
discount amounting to more than Microsoft was actually receiving in
royalties.

The "effectiveness" of the fund would be evaluated at three-month
intervals.

When he wrote the memo, Ayala was the No. 3 executive at Microsoft, in
charge of sales and marketing and responsible for roughly 22,000 of the
company's more than 50,000 employees.

In March, Ayala was transferred to lead a new division that focuses on
small and medium-sized companies. This new push is one of Microsoft's
top priorities, the company has said. Ayala was not available for
comment.

- Serving up discounts on consulting

At 9:08 a.m. on July 18, two days after Ayala sent his e-mail, Sinneck
sent his memo. It was sent to a handful of the top managers in
Microsoft's consulting business.

The memo included a table that showed how much Microsoft had earmarked
for discounts on its consulting services in each market: $65.7 million
in the United States, $8.9 million in the Asia-Pacific region, $13.7
million for Canada and Latin America, $8 million for Japan, $5.4 million
for Germany and $2.8 million for France. In addition, $22 million was
earmarked for other parts of Europe, the Middle East and Africa. The
accompanying table showed that the discounts specifically targeted
consulting services for servers.

Sinneck said that the fund would be used to cover the difference between
the "discounted customer rate and the standard services billing rate per
hour."

Reached this week, Larry Meadows, marketing manager for Microsoft's
services group at its Redmond, Washington, headquarters, said the fund
could be used "anywhere it needs to be. There's not really a limit to
say that you can use it only in certain geographies. We want to use it
worldwide."

He said the funds would be used again in the company's next financial
year, which starts in July.

- Learning the letter of the law

In 1998, Microsoft, which works with several major law firms in
Brussels, sought legal advice on the question of what kind of discounts
are legal under European law.

Microsoft asked Bill Allan, a lawyer at Linklaters, a London-based firm,
about the legality of a particular discount program covering bulk sales
to dealers. Their e-mail exchange, a copy of which was obtained by the
IHT, is significant both because it shows Microsoft was concerned about
discounts and because Allan set out a broad interpretation on discounts
in general.

Allan said that according to European law, discounts should not be
exclusionary - "liable to exclude competitors or restrict their
expansion," he said. Discounts should also not differentiate "without
objective justification" among customers, Allan said.

"If the European Commission has to take a formal position in relation to
any case," Allan said, "it states quite dogmatically that
market-dominant companies may only offer long-term discount schemes
which are justified by cost savings or other countervailing benefits."

In other words, Microsoft would have to show that it could offer
discounts because they generated internal cost savings, rather than
because the discounts were designed to exclude competitors from the
market.

The "likelihood" that the European Commission would actually challenge a
discount, Allan wrote, depended on whether a competitor actually issued
a complaint to the commission.

Two years later, the commission announced an antitrust investigation
against Microsoft, spurred by a complaint from Sun Microsystems, a
competitor in the server software market.

The complaint did not pertain to discounts but something known in the
computer industry as interoperability: The European Commission
investigated allegations that Microsoft refused to supply essential
information on its Windows operating systems to competitors. Because
Microsoft had "undisputed market dominance" in operating systems for
personal computers, the executive panel said, competitors in the server
market were at a disadvantage because their servers could not operate
properly with networks of PCs running on Windows.

"All companies that want to do business in the European Union must play
by its antitrust rules," Mario Monti, the commissioner in charge of
competition, said when the investigation was announced. "I'm determined
to act for their rigorous enforcement."

A year later, the commission accused Microsoft of violating antitrust
law by bundling its Media Player software into its operating system.
Both investigations are ongoing. Sources at the European Commission said
a decision in the cases would not be announced until late this year at
the earliest.

Microsoft has said on several occasions that it is fully cooperating
with the commission in the antitrust investigations. But Allan's 1998
e-mail offered clues as to how Microsoft might defend itself if accused
of illegal discounting.

The European Commission "would regard Microsoft as market-dominant" in
the field of software for personal computers, Allan said.

"Obviously, should any case be brought, we would contest that
assumption," Allan said. It was a remarkable insight into Microsoft's
possible legal strategy: Despite the widely recognized monopoly of the
Windows operating system, Microsoft would contest the idea that it is
dominant.

Allan seemed to acknowledge the difficulties in making this claim. He
said that "for the purpose of deciding our route forward," the
determination of market dominance was a "realistic assumption."

International Herald Tribune

Copyright © 2002 The International Herald Tribune

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  50. 2003-05-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] lost all information on home partition
  51. 2003-05-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  52. 2003-05-02 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Sobro venture center
  53. 2003-05-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] lost all information on home partition
  54. 2003-05-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  55. 2003-05-02 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  56. 2003-05-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] New OOdraw format logos in /docs
  57. 2003-05-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  58. 2003-05-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  59. 2003-05-01 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  60. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Future Jobs
  61. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Cisco Spyware
  62. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Digital TV
  63. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam Fight
  64. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Suite
  65. 2003-05-01 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  66. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  67. 2003-05-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Your know you made the big time when
  68. 2003-05-01 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  69. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  70. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: What's with this Stanco guy?
  71. 2003-05-01 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] What's with this Stanco guy?
  72. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] City Free Software use and the Board of Education
  73. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] City Free Software use and the Board of Education
  74. 2003-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  75. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Free software center - donation [wfitzgerald-at-livetechnology.com]
  76. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  77. 2003-05-01 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Mailing list in evolution
  78. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Adam - Call me now
  79. 2003-05-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] monitor pickup tomorrow
  80. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Handbilling
  81. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Last Chance to make the trip to Washington for DMCA hearings
  82. 2003-05-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] P2P legal
  83. 2003-05-31 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn has free Wi-Fi???
  84. 2003-05-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IMPORTANT CHANGE IN Previous Class Schedule
  85. 2003-05-30 From: "Rob Stupay" <vze3426u-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] 3d
  86. 2003-05-30 From: "Rob Stupay" <vze3426u-at-verizon.net> Subject: [hangout] a newsletter question
  87. 2003-05-30 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [ Speakeasy ] Notice: Network Outage in NYC - Recap
  88. 2003-05-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule Changes
  89. 2003-05-30 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Education meeting report soon to come
  90. 2003-05-30 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] CSS issue fixed
  91. 2003-05-29 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Arguments made in DVD-cracking case
  92. 2003-05-29 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Good News for NYLXS
  93. 2003-05-29 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Good News for NYLXS
  94. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  95. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  96. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Good News for NYLXS
  97. 2003-05-29 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Destros needed
  98. 2003-05-29 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Destros needed
  99. 2003-05-29 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Novell's letter to SCO
  100. 2003-05-28 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO's response to Novell
  101. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Novell's letter to SCO
  102. 2003-05-28 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell's letter to SCO
  103. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell calls on SCO to prove allegations about Linux
  104. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] German software group threatens to sue SCO on Linux
  105. 2003-05-28 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC- Tuesday Minutes
  106. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  107. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Agenda for Meeting
  108. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva NYLXS Recording Secretary <selsok-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educational committee meeting tomorrow
  109. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Agenda for Meeting
  110. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Agenda for Meeting
  111. 2003-05-28 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  112. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  113. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  114. 2003-05-28 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  115. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  116. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  117. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  118. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  119. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  120. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  121. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  122. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  123. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  124. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  125. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  126. 2003-05-28 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  127. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  128. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  129. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  130. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  131. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Need Phone number and Mailing address for NYLXS
  132. 2003-05-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  133. 2003-05-28 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Needs replenishing
  134. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  135. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: add RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  136. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> add RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  137. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  138. 2003-05-28 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Destros needed
  139. 2003-05-28 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Destros needed
  140. 2003-05-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
  141. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Possible attacks in Brooklyn this week
  142. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] CSS fun!
  143. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
  144. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  145. 2003-05-27 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  146. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  147. 2003-05-27 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  148. 2003-05-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
  149. 2003-05-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  150. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  151. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  152. 2003-05-27 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [mbac-at-netgraft.com: [wwwac] MySQL AB is looking for New York hires]
  153. 2003-05-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des
  154. 2003-05-27 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [mbac-at-netgraft.com: [wwwac] MySQL AB is looking for New York hires]
  155. 2003-05-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] CSS fun!
  156. 2003-05-27 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] New Yawk Unjacked
  157. 2003-05-27 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Darl McBride Interview
  158. 2003-05-26 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] fscc
  159. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  160. 2003-05-26 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  161. 2003-05-26 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] we need nylxser
  162. 2003-05-26 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  163. 2003-05-26 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  164. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] we need nylxser
  165. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  166. 2003-05-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  167. 2003-05-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  168. 2003-05-25 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  169. 2003-05-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> another word on this Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  170. 2003-05-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  171. 2003-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  172. 2003-05-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  173. 2003-05-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Some terms I did not know existed.
  174. 2003-05-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] media and fcc on ch 13 now
  175. 2003-05-23 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Evening FSCC Meetings
  176. 2003-05-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Why can't they do it here?
  177. 2003-05-23 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Prepare yourself to feel the hate
  178. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] It's not just Microsoft taking advantage of ignorance
  179. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Jamie.Katz-at-Workstreaminc.com: Career Event: Seminar in New York City, May 28th]
  180. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [miker-at-internetmovies.com: [DMCA-Activists] INTERNETMOVIES.COM appeals to U.S. Ninth Circuit Court against MPAA]
  181. 2003-05-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  182. 2003-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  183. 2003-05-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  184. 2003-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  185. 2003-05-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  186. 2003-05-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] God almighty
  187. 2003-05-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Des ktop
  188. 2003-05-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Big Business & World Perceptions - Linux on the Desktop
  189. 2003-05-23 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Ulimate Geek-Network Event
  190. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] God almighty
  191. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] mbox_splitter.py
  192. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] More weaseling
  193. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] God almighty
  194. 2003-05-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] God almighty
  195. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  196. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes
  197. 2003-05-22 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  198. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  199. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  200. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Idiocy, or Incompetence?
  201. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes small correction
  202. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  203. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR for Classes
  204. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  205. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Correction
  206. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Correction
  207. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes
  208. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  209. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] we need nylxser
  210. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  211. 2003-05-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] PR for Classes
  212. 2003-05-22 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Re: [hangout] Congratulations
  213. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Congratulations
  214. 2003-05-22 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Congratulations
  215. 2003-05-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] PR for Classes
  216. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] the NYLXS site
  217. 2003-05-22 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] we need nylxser
  218. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Crains NY for PR
  219. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia FS Business Demo
  220. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  221. 2003-05-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  222. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  223. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Cartoons
  224. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Education and more read me
  225. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Education and more read me
  226. 2003-05-21 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Education and more read me
  227. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLUG Meeting tonight
  228. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] It's more than an Installfeast!
  229. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  230. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  231. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  232. 2003-05-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  233. 2003-05-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] It's more than an Installfeast!
  234. 2003-05-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  235. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  236. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Re: Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  237. 2003-05-20 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  238. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  239. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  240. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Re: [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  241. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  242. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: A thought]
  243. 2003-05-20 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: A thought
  244. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  245. 2003-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  246. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  247. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  248. 2003-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  249. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  250. 2003-05-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  251. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FS Classes start tonight
  252. 2003-05-20 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  253. 2003-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  254. 2003-05-20 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM to sell Linux Biz desktops
  255. 2003-05-20 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  256. 2003-05-20 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Some Encouraging News from Abroad...
  257. 2003-05-20 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Wording: Free Software Classes
  258. 2003-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Wording: Free Software Classes
  259. 2003-05-20 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  260. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  261. 2003-05-20 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Brought to you by:
  262. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tech Commitee Meeting
  263. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: A thought
  264. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  265. 2003-05-19 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Subject: [hangout] Wireless Broad Band Security
  266. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linux 1 Class
  267. 2003-05-19 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSCC Meeting
  268. 2003-05-19 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Subject: [hangout] Re: A thought
  269. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  270. 2003-05-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Commitee Meeting
  271. 2003-05-19 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 Class
  272. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] A thought
  273. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] For some of us, it was already clear...
  274. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers for Classes
  275. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] egovos 3
  276. 2003-05-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] egovos 3
  277. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Alt schools demo
  278. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  279. 2003-05-19 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: Alt schools demo
  280. 2003-05-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft to license Unix code
  281. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Federal Solution
  282. 2003-05-19 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Alt schools demo
  283. 2003-05-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft to license Unix code
  284. 2003-05-19 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft to license Unix code
  285. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Tech Commitee Meeting
  286. 2003-05-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  287. 2003-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Desktop Linux Ready to Roll Over Windows] (fwd)
  288. 2003-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Desktop Linux Ready to Roll Over Windows] (fwd)
  289. 2003-05-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  290. 2003-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Desktop Linux Ready to Roll Over Windows] (fwd)
  291. 2003-05-18 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  292. 2003-05-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  293. 2003-05-18 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  294. 2003-05-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] irc security news and the law
  295. 2003-05-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DVD Software takes a legal blow vs DMCA
  296. 2003-05-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] So how did it go?
  297. 2003-05-17 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Petition
  298. 2003-05-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Comuters Work Reguations from the Dept of Labor
  299. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] baby is comming
  300. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] the things i have
  301. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] links to edu stuff
  302. 2003-05-17 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] baby comming
  303. 2003-05-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  304. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  305. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] These are some articals
  306. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  307. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  308. 2003-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  309. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] found 3rd artical
  310. 2003-05-16 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] found another one that proves computers don't work in schools
  311. 2003-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Meeting Tomorrow
  312. 2003-05-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  313. 2003-05-16 From: "Rene Ferrer" <ferrer_rene-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO is full of it...
  314. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  315. 2003-05-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  316. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] class flyers
  317. 2003-05-16 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] updated flyers for may-june classes
  318. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  319. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSe 7.1 dropped from support
  320. 2003-05-15 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Ballmer on Linux
  321. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] More details for sat.
  322. 2003-05-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: alt-tech seminar talks
  323. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE (fwd)
  324. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] alt-tech seminar talks
  325. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Edited and Proofed after discussing with Marco NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE (fwd)
  326. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  327. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Edited and Proofed after discussing with Marco NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE (fwd)
  328. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  329. 2003-05-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Edited and Proofed after discussing with Marco NYLXS AT THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE
  330. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Flyers
  331. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  332. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  333. 2003-05-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  334. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers
  335. 2003-05-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  336. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] you can get tha address from this link
  337. 2003-05-15 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] you can get tha address from this link
  338. 2003-05-15 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Up to No-Good Again!
  339. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  340. 2003-05-15 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  341. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: We got into the THE ALTERNATIVE TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE as A Exhibtor
  342. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Classes - Registration Form -
  343. 2003-05-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS VICE PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Announcement
  344. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [ANN] Novusweb Creates Innovative Cooperative - Seeks Talented Web Specialists [bill-at-blueworld.com]
  345. 2003-05-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Announcement
  346. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ebay Scam you should be aware of
  347. 2003-05-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] For future reference
  348. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  349. 2003-05-14 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  350. 2003-05-14 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] SCO's Letter to Linux Users/Customers
  351. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO's Letter to Linux Users/Customers
  352. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  353. 2003-05-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO's Letter to Linux Users/Customers
  354. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Subway Fare scaled Back Again!
  355. 2003-05-14 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO warns commercial Linux users of potential 'legal liability'
  356. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  357. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  358. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  359. 2003-05-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  360. 2003-05-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS webserver suggestion: MIME [Was: funny flyer penguin rides GNU]
  361. 2003-05-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  362. 2003-05-14 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  363. 2003-05-14 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  364. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  365. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  366. 2003-05-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  367. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  368. 2003-05-14 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] funny flyer penguin rides GNU
  369. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What do I put here?
  370. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Can you email the NYLUG List
  371. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Can you email the NYLUG List
  372. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] The Matrix Reloaded
  373. 2003-05-14 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux In education Needs YOU
  374. 2003-05-14 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Headline - When copy protection backfires
  375. 2003-05-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] looking at headers - ignor
  376. 2003-05-20 Sunny Dubey <dubeys-at-bxscience.edu> Re: [hangout] Alt schools demo
  377. 2003-05-19 Ray Connolly <ray-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] hello again
  378. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  379. 2003-05-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com>
  380. 2003-05-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [!CrackMonkey!] The Eric Aldred Act]

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