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DATE 2003-09-16
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] The latest on the WTC Development

September 13, 2003 Ground Zero Plan Seems to Circle Back By EDWARD WYATT

When the revised master plan for the rebuilding of the World Trade
Center is released this month, it will include scores of changes to
Daniel Libeskind's design, both major alterations and minor refinements,
many of them never before seen in public.

The plan will retain its signature elements ? the recessed memorial
area, the 1,776-foot spire that will be taller than the original towers,
and a grand new transportation terminal. But other features will come
into sharper focus, like a giant waterfall that has so far attracted
scant attention and shrinking "urban parks" that in reality are little
more than streets with flower beds.

The secretive evolution of the plan contrasts sharply with the
continuing portrayal of the rebuilding process as one of the most open
and inclusive civic building projects in memory. Government officials,
architects, civic groups and developers still speak in awestruck tones
about the town hall meeting in the summer of 2002, when more than 4,000
New Yorkers spent hours discussing, of all things, urban planning.

Ever since, the officials overseeing the rebuilding effort have
congratulated themselves for their courage to go back to the drawing
board after the public rejected the original six designs for the site.
And they have cited that process for their defense of the Libeskind plan
from mutations that would rob it of its singularity.

"It was the aggressive outreach to a broader public that resulted in the
consensus behind this plan," Gov. George E. Pataki said in an interview
last month.

As much as the Libeskind plan evolved by the will of the public,
however, it also turned on the political needs of Mr. Pataki, who was
running for re-election last fall. The governor's decrees, like his
early declaration under pressure from victims' families that the
footprints of the towers be preserved as a memorial, sometimes created
public opinion as much as reflected it.

Mr. Libeskind's plan, for all its ingenious originality, was just as
prized for its flexibility. There also were financial considerations:
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the owner of the trade
center, wanted to guarantee its revenues from the site, and its
leaseholder, the developer Larry A. Silverstein, stood alone in his
ability to pay for the rebuilding, thanks to his control of the twin
towers insurance money.

Though the new master plan could be further revised in the environmental
impact review, by most accounts it will be superior to that of the World
Trade Center design of the 1970's. It will reconnect neighborhoods that
were split apart by the original project and provide a somber memorial
to the victims of the 9/11 attack.

In the minds of some officials, though, it also seems reminiscent of a
design rejected by the thousands of citizen planners who packed that
July 2002 town hall meeting in the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center.

Politics of the Memorial

Months before that huge meeting, rebuilding officials knew that almost
all the decisions about the site would be driven by the memorial to the
victims of the Sept. 11 attack, leaving few options for its basic
design.

In early 2002, Louis R. Tomson, the president of the Lower Manhattan
Development Corporation, and others advised Mr. Pataki that the most
sensible plan was to re-establish Fulton and Greenwich Streets through
the site. That would carve the property into quadrants, saving the
largest section ? the southwest corner, where the towers had stood for
some 30 years ? for a memorial. The restored streets would physically
separate the memorial from the remaining nine acres, which could then be
used for office space and the rail connections that carried commuters to
the financial district.

"It was pretty obvious where the memorial was going," Mr. Tomson said in
an interview last month. "And it was clear we were going to put the rail
station where the rails are."

The proposal would satisfy several critical constituencies: the victims'
relatives, who wanted significant space for a memorial; neighborhood
residents and architects, who wanted to break up the much-lamented
16-acre superblock; and the Port Authority, which wanted to keep
receiving $120 million in annual rents from the site.

By doing so, it would help to fulfill another significant goal: muting
any significant controversy over the ground zero project that could
disrupt Mr. Pataki's re-election campaign.

When development officials unveiled the six original proposals, all of
them had streets and pedestrian walkways running through the site, and
four preserved the footprints of the towers for a memorial. It quickly
became evident, however, that the Port Authority's goal of rebuilding
all 10 million square feet of lost office space was fundamentally
incompatible with leaving so much open space.

"We all knew from the beginning that you can't take half of the site
away and put the same bulk back," said Alexander Garvin, who was then
the director of planning, design and development for the Lower Manhattan
Development Corporation.

Even Beyer Blinder Belle, the architecture firm that created most of the
six designs, told the Port Authority as much. And the thousands of
private citizens at the Javits Center said it even more loudly.

But the rough outlines of some rejected designs seem to have endured.
One in particular, called Memorial Plaza, included an eye-catching tower
at one corner, topped by a huge television antenna, and a large, open
memorial space including the tower footprints. Long-absent streets were
re-established through the middle of the former superblock, and a row of
office buildings joined with the tower in an L-shaped formation around
the memorial.

Mr. Libeskind and Mr. Garvin reject the similarity as coincidental at
best. But Joseph Seymour, the executive director of the Port Authority,
sees it differently. "When we roll it out," he said, "the land-use plan
is going to be almost exactly what Beyer Blinder Belle proposed."

To address the perceived shortcomings in the early proposals, in August
2002 the development corporation called for the world's most prominent
architects to think grandly about the future of ground zero.

Port Authority officials were livid at the development corporation's
attempt to establish its own design for what the authority saw as its
site, so the call for entries deliberately stated: "This is not a design
competition and will not result in the selection of a final plan."

Still, Kevin Rampe, who succeeded Mr. Tomson as president of the
development corporation, said the project evolved into a full-blown
competition because of "the prestige of the architects involved and what
they did in exhibiting their plans."

"They ignored the rules and did what they did best," Mr. Rampe said. "I
don't think any of them thought about whether it was a competition of
ideas or a competition of plans."

In December, the agency unveiled nine plans from seven groups of
architects at the World Financial Center's Winter Garden. First to
present was Mr. Libeskind. When he finished, applause echoed through the
Winter Garden. None of the eight plans that followed received as great a
response.

It was not an accident that Mr. Libeskind was the first to present his
design, officials said later. As the design teams met with rebuilding
officials every two weeks during the competition, they said, it became
clear that Mr. Libeskind's "Memory Foundations" was the plan to beat.

When the public weighed in, it favored Sir Norman Foster's "kissing
towers," which evoked the original twin towers but left little room for
a restored street grid. In the minds of the officials, however, the only
feasible alternatives were the World Cultural Center, by the Think team,
which included Rafael Viñoly and Frederic Schwartz, and a design by
Peterson/Littenberg Architecture and Design. Peterson/Littenberg hurt
its cause when Barbara Littenberg, one of the principals, criticized the
design competition and rebuilding officials at a public forum,
infuriating Mr. Tomson and others.

And Then There Were Two

The competition was soon whittled down to Mr. Libeskind and Think. Yet
the final decision was made less by consensus or by appeal to the
public, than by fiat, born of indignation.

The two teams approached the final weeks of the competition in very
different ways, which had significant bearing on their fortunes. The
Think team spent nearly all of its time working on the elaborate
engineering of its cultural towers, twin cylinders of scaffolding within
which multiple buildings and viewing platforms would be suspended.

Mr. Libeskind, meanwhile, spent several days cloistered with Port
Authority officials, working to satisfy their desires for underground
parking and mechanical systems.

"The genius of Daniel Libeskind," said Mr. Seymour, the Port Authority
official, "is that he worked hard with us to understand all the
engineering and transportation elements on the site. He showed his
flexibility."

For example, Mr. Libeskind agreed to raise the floor of the memorial
site from 70 feet below ground level to 30 feet, allowing for the
bracing of the foundation walls and an expanded train station and
pedestrian concourses below the memorial.

When the two teams made presentations in late February to the officials
who would choose the winner, nearly all of the Think team's time was
spent explaining the engineering of its towers. Mr. Libeskind, however,
reprised his stirring monologue portraying his design as the embodiment
of America's hopes and dreams.

The day before the architects made their final pitches, a committee of
development corporation directors had recommended that the Think team's
design be chosen, and one committee member told The New York Times, "We
don't expect anyone to overrule us." Aides say that comment incensed Mr.
Pataki and caused him to favor Mr. Libeskind.

The Think design was favored by Daniel E. Doctoroff, the deputy mayor
for economic development and rebuilding. But his boss, Mayor Michael R.
Bloomberg, was dismayed by the cost of the towers, which without
accounting for any office buildings was estimated at more than $800
million, compared to $330 million for the Libeskind plan.

"How can we spend so much on the memorial?" Mr. Bloomberg asked in a
meeting after the two presentations, according to two people who were
present.

Both the mayor and the governor also expressed a basic dislike for the
Think design. Mr. Bloomberg compared it to industrial natural-gas
storage tanks, and Mr. Pataki said it reminded him of a skeleton. Hours
before a 10-member steering committee of officials from the Port
Authority, the development corporation and the mayor's and governor's
offices was to meet to choose a winner, the decision was already sealed.

Though they picked the design, neither Mr. Pataki nor Mr. Bloomberg was
in a position to pay for its construction. That would fall to Mr.
Silverstein, the developer and leaseholder, who was expecting billions
of dollars in insurance payments for the destroyed towers.

Just before the competition had been narrowed to the two finalists, Mr.
Silverstein sent a letter to rebuilding officials claiming that none of
the proposed designs met his requirements.

After Mr. Libeskind was selected, Mr. Silverstein continued to push for
his own priorities. This summer, Mr. Libeskind agreed that David M.
Childs, who had designed the new 7 World Trade Center for Mr.
Silverstein, would be the primary architect on the 1,776-foot Freedom
Tower, which will dominate the Manhattan skyline.

Mr. Libeskind said that made sense because he has never built a
skyscraper. But Mr. Silverstein went further, asking other architects
about their interest in designing the remaining commercial buildings.

Already the Port Authority has hired another architect, Santiago
Calatrava, to design the train station. Although he will follow
guidelines set by Mr. Libeskind, his characteristic style, gracefully
symmetrical forms, could conflict with Mr. Libeskind's angular
geometries.

Mr. Libeskind says these are all normal accommodations that an architect
has to make for any client on any project. "People are being educated by
the process," Mr. Libeskind said. "They say to me, `You won, what's the
problem?' But I tell them, `No, there's an investor who has a say in
this.' "

An Evolving Master Plan

The accommodations in Mr. Libeskind's design, however, are extensive.
For example, rebuilding officials gushed about his plans for the
intersection of the restored Fulton and Greenwich Streets.

John C. Whitehead, the development corporation chairman, said it would
be "one of the world's most majestic crossroads," a grand piazza on a
par with the open plazas of European capitals, bounded by Mr.
Libeskind's Wedge of Light and the Park of Heroes.

But the open space has been shrinking. Fulton Street, rather than being
part of an open pedestrian plaza, is likely to be active with buses
traveling from the Hudson River ferry terminal to the South Street
Seaport.

The green space in the Park of Heroes, which originally was to mirror
the Wedge of Light across Greenwich Street, has been cut roughly in half
by a redesign of the Freedom Tower and the attached office building.

So the grand piazza appears to be, in recent renderings, more like a
street with flower beds. And at the site's southern edge, the proposed
Liberty Street Park is not much wider than the sidewalk next to it.

"They are urban parks," Mr. Libeskind said last month. "No, it's not
Central Park. But the point is to make a connection through West Street
to the Hudson."

Mr. Libeskind also said he has made changes to the borders of the Wedge
of Light ? a feature meant to mimic how the sun was shining on the
morning of Sept. 11, 2001 ? but he declined to elaborate.

The architect acknowledged that he has not fully designed the waterfall
proposed for the eastern edge of the south tower footprint, which would
help filter out street noise. The waterfall has received almost no
attention in public reviews, but as originally depicted, it would be
mammoth ? up to 100 feet tall, rivaling the world's largest man-made
waterfalls.

The effect of these prospective changes has unnerved some people who
have supported the planning process. Robert Yaro, the president of the
Regional Plan Association, a civic group, said rebuilding officials were
very responsive to public opinion last year. "Since then, it's been a
less open process," he said. "That has been unfortunate."

But Mr. Doctoroff, the deputy mayor, said the general lack of dissension
indicated that the public supported what has happened. "I think it's
remarkable the level of praise that not only the process but the end
result got," he said.

Mr. Libeskind and others credit the aggressiveness of civic groups with
helping to preserve elements of his plan. "The vigilance of the public
in this process has raised the stakes," he said. "People feel very much
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  53. 2003-09-03 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  54. 2003-09-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  55. 2003-09-03 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  56. 2003-09-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  57. 2003-09-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  58. 2003-09-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  59. 2003-09-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Board meeting
  60. 2003-09-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Busin
  61. 2003-09-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  62. 2003-09-03 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  63. 2003-09-03 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] We Have Met the Enemy, and He is Us
  64. 2003-09-03 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] We Have Met the Enemy, and He is Us
  65. 2003-09-03 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  66. 2003-09-02 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months
  67. 2003-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [seminars-at-covalent.net: Web Seminar on Apache 2.0]
  68. 2003-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Very instersting job with School System
  69. 2003-09-02 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  70. 2003-09-02 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] unInteresting article on Valenti
  71. 2003-09-02 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  72. 2003-09-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Rockin' on without Microsoft
  73. 2003-09-02 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months
  74. 2003-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Developers Summit
  75. 2003-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting
  76. 2003-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Bank and FSI Classes
  77. 2003-09-02 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Bank and FSI Classes
  78. 2003-09-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] please join in the protest
  79. 2003-09-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] please join in the protest
  80. 2003-09-10 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Domestic political terrorists
  81. 2003-09-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Domestic political terrorists
  82. 2003-09-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Paging David Sugar
  83. 2003-09-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ms Crips
  84. 2003-09-10 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Ms Crips
  85. 2003-09-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Developers Summit at Brooklyn College
  86. 2003-09-10 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  87. 2003-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Class Announcements
  88. 2003-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SCO Pleads ...
  89. 2003-09-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Vacation in the Persian Gulf
  90. 2003-09-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCO Pleads ...
  91. 2003-09-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] IRC meeting tommorow night at 11:00
  92. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [html-at-ssc.com: SuitWatch - September 11]
  93. 2003-09-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: 911
  94. 2003-09-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell eyes role of Linux champion
  95. 2003-09-08 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell 'puts entire ecosystem behind Linux'
  96. 2003-09-09 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Report says schools are unfair to America
  97. 2003-09-11 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Wind River terminating BSD/OS
  98. 2003-09-11 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Domestic political terrorists
  99. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Domestic political terrorists
  100. 2003-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Volunteers needed for leafleting of the classes
  101. 2003-09-11 Joe Grastara <joe-at-endeavor.med.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months
  102. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Interesting article on Valenti in this months Business2.0.
  103. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh .. You Gotta have Heart.....
  104. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft bit by patents
  105. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Broad band and the law Suites
  106. 2003-09-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: IRC meeting tommorow night at 11:00
  107. 2003-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] More on the RIAA Lawsuites: We should start a Brianna LaHara Defense Fund
  108. 2003-09-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] IRC meeting tommorow night at 11:00
  109. 2003-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The RIAA is finally making our case
  110. 2003-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [ NYLXS Education Committee ] Re: Free Software Meeting in NYC [rms-at-gnu.org]
  111. 2003-09-11 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software Developers Summit at Brooklyn College
  112. 2003-09-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft bit by patents
  113. 2003-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Microsoft bit by patents
  114. 2003-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNIME Meeting Planning Meeting
  115. 2003-09-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: IRC meeting tommorow night at 11:00
  116. 2003-09-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] [nylug-talk] The RIAA is finally making our case [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  117. 2003-09-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [nylug-talk] The RIAA is finally making our case [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  118. 2003-09-12 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Ex-Apple Employee Slams Company / Who Killed Apple Computer?
  119. 2003-09-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Unix Error
  120. 2003-09-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [ NYLXS Education Committee ] Re: Free Software Meeting in NYC
  121. 2003-09-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Taxation without Representation: The Microsoft Nation
  122. 2003-09-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Coder needed - Graduate of Perl 1 and Perl 2 perfered
  123. 2003-09-12 Robert Marino <prmarino-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] System Specs - Mike (fwd)
  124. 2003-09-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] The Unix Error
  125. 2003-09-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] The Unix Error
  126. 2003-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Paging Bill Putney
  127. 2003-09-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Nite tonight
  128. 2003-09-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Security Alert: In the wild exploit damages data and OS
  129. 2003-09-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The shaping of young minds:
  130. 2003-09-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] P2P is moral and upright
  131. 2003-09-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Downloading in the News
  132. 2003-09-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] Free Software Institute Classes
  133. 2003-09-19 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] DRM and the Upgrade Escalator is starting Now
  134. 2003-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Balmer: MS is being ripped off by the net
  135. 2003-09-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Balmer: MS is being ripped off by the net
  136. 2003-09-19 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Balmer: MS is being ripped off by the net
  137. 2003-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  138. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Balmer: MS is being ripped off by the net
  139. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Balmer: MS is being ripped off by the net
  140. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] update from WindowsRefund.net
  141. 2003-09-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  142. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  143. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  144. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] News from the Middle East: Report of tourture chambers in Iraq
  145. 2003-09-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  146. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  147. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  148. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  149. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  150. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  151. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  152. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  153. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  154. 2003-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Museum of the Day 2
  155. 2003-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  156. 2003-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYC Job for Linux
  157. 2003-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  158. 2003-09-19 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] 65% of ATMs will run Windows by 2005
  159. 2003-09-19 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] September 12, 2001
  160. 2003-09-19 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] sspamassassin
  161. 2003-09-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  162. 2003-09-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] rms-at-gnu.org: Re: GNOME Summit
  163. 2003-09-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Will a New Software Strategy Lift the Dark Clouds Over Sun?
  164. 2003-09-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Your Linux Today Security Letter for September 18, 2003 [reply-52dc-1808-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com]
  165. 2003-09-18 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: openssh (second release) (SuSE-SA:2003:039) [draht-at-suse.de]
  166. 2003-09-18 Nat Friedman <nat-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  167. 2003-09-18 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  168. 2003-09-18 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  169. 2003-09-18 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  170. 2003-09-18 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  171. 2003-09-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: What's going on with Embperl???
  172. 2003-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Memebership Committee Meeting
  173. 2003-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Memebership Committee Meeting
  174. 2003-09-17 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  175. 2003-09-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  176. 2003-09-17 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  177. 2003-09-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] September 12, 2001
  178. 2003-09-17 Luis Villa <louie-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  179. 2003-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Looking for
  180. 2003-09-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Gnome Summitt Web Page
  181. 2003-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME SUmmit Plan
  182. 2003-09-17 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] job: (Recruiter) contract - Nassau county, NY - C# SQL-server]
  183. 2003-09-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] job: (Recruiter) contract - Nassau county, NY - C# SQL-server]
  184. 2003-09-17 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] job: (Recruiter) contract - Nassau county, NY - C#
  185. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [learn] In IBM we trust
  186. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In IBM we trust
  187. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM and the Upgrade Escalator is starting Now
  188. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The latest on the WTC Development
  189. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FCC is being undressed in a broad way. Can the RIAA be far behind?
  190. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Librarians strike back
  191. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Who to do Business With - and it is not Alex Pilosoft
  192. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ISP Privacy in apealet court
  193. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Pluggin Patents Upheld - Threatens Internet
  194. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] American Graphitti
  195. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Twistie Turnie WTC
  196. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Flyer
  197. 2003-09-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer/Systems Administrator (onsite), United States, NY, New York]
  198. 2003-09-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Los Alamos Linux cluster to keep watch on nukes
  199. 2003-09-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Los Alamos Linux cluster to keep watch on nukes
  200. 2003-09-16 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Perl DBI Applications Programmer wanted for small company. Telecommute. (telecommute), United States, MD, Baltimore]
  201. 2003-09-16 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Los Alamos Linux cluster to keep watch on nukes
  202. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Los Alamos Linux cluster to keep watch on nukes
  203. 2003-09-16 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Los Alamos Linux cluster to keep watch on nukes
  204. 2003-09-15 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] JOB: Full-time E-Marketing Manager for Consumer
  205. 2003-09-15 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] JOB: STAFF DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHER - E-Commerce Site]
  206. 2003-09-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Free Software Developers Summit at Brooklyn College
  207. 2003-09-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] follow ups
  208. 2003-09-15 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [reply-517e-1807-2f6b114cd7-at-nl.internet.com: Your Linux PR newsletter for September 15, 2003]
  209. 2003-09-15 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] follow ups
  210. 2003-09-15 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Bottom Line is closing
  211. 2003-09-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] See I am BRILENT
  212. 2003-09-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Public could care less about RIAA
  213. 2003-09-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Public could care less about RIAA
  214. 2003-09-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Need to get the phone put in at Kings Games
  215. 2003-09-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYC is hostage to the Microsoft nation:
  216. 2003-09-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Web Page
  217. 2003-09-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I'll be a little late tonight
  218. 2003-09-14 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Back in touch
  219. 2003-09-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Scene Calender for Today
  220. 2003-09-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly NYLXS Announcments
  221. 2003-09-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The RIAA is finally making our case
  222. 2003-09-14 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The RIAA is finally making ourcase
  223. 2003-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Reporting and Application Developer. (onsite), NY, New York, New York]
  224. 2003-09-13 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] FSI Web Page
  225. 2003-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Job
  226. 2003-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] FSI Web Page
  227. 2003-09-13 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI Web Page
  228. 2003-09-21 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] tomorrow: Orientation Board Meeting and FSI Planning Meeting
  229. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  230. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  231. 2003-09-30 Nat Friedman <nat-at-ximian.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  232. 2003-09-30 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  233. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  234. 2003-09-30 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  235. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  236. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: GNOME Conference Plans
  237. 2003-09-30 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> Subject: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  238. 2003-09-30 Nat Friedman <nat-at-ximian.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Conference Plans
  239. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  240. 2003-09-30 From: "Mark S. Gold" <MARK-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> Subject: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  241. 2003-09-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: GNOME Conference Plans
  242. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  243. 2003-09-30 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) RE: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  244. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] GNOME Conference Plans
  245. 2003-09-30 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) RE: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  246. 2003-09-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  247. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  248. 2003-09-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  249. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  250. 2003-09-30 bruce-at-perens.com (Bruce Perens) Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  251. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Spam from your Circuits
  252. 2003-09-30 From: "J L" <lokokool-at-hotmail.com> Subject: [hangout] Putting a lid on broadband use
  253. 2003-09-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  254. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] How to Get Attention without dropping your pants
  255. 2003-09-30 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ransom Love on SCO
  256. 2003-09-29 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Need Apple PowerBook G4 Power supply
  257. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Technite Move? Vote?
  258. 2003-09-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need Apple PowerBook G4 Power supply
  259. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mysqlcc
  260. 2003-09-29 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] mysqlcc
  261. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Anyone up for an actual tech meeting? [dan-at-acm.poly.edu]
  262. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Need Apple PowerBook G4 Power supply
  263. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mysqlcc
  264. 2003-09-29 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] mysqlcc
  265. 2003-09-29 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Need Apple PowerBook G4 Power supply
  266. 2003-09-29 Kenneth Dombrowski <kenneth-at-ylayali.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Anyone up for an actual tech meeting? [dan-at-acm.poly.edu]
  267. 2003-09-29 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Need Apple PowerBook G4 Power supply
  268. 2003-09-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: RE: computer resources [MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu]
  269. 2003-09-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Chicago Tribune Copyright Ethics Quiz
  270. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  271. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  272. 2003-09-29 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jobs-admin-at-perl.org: [Perl Jobs] Junior programmer for financial institution (onsite), United States, New York, New York]
  273. 2003-09-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Anyone up for an actual tech meeting? [dan-at-acm.poly.edu]
  274. 2003-09-29 joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com Re: [hangout] Scribus 1.1.0
  275. 2003-09-29 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Scribus 1.1.0
  276. 2003-09-28 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Scribus 1.1.0
  277. 2003-09-26 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  278. 2003-09-26 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Re: [hangout] Tech Nite changes
  279. 2003-09-26 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  280. 2003-09-26 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  281. 2003-09-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  282. 2003-09-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  283. 2003-09-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  284. 2003-09-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  285. 2003-09-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  286. 2003-09-26 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  287. 2003-09-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  288. 2003-09-26 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  289. 2003-09-26 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  290. 2003-09-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  291. 2003-09-26 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] hangout archive is password protected
  292. 2003-09-26 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Microsoft: National Security Threat?
  293. 2003-09-26 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Dave Please Follow Up [MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu]
  294. 2003-09-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Much Insite as an aside to the SCO case
  295. 2003-09-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Tech Nite changes
  296. 2003-09-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] No Call List hung up in Court
  297. 2003-09-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] P2P - front page of the NY Times
  298. 2003-09-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Deslexic Grandma Sued by RIAA: P2P Awakening
  299. 2003-09-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Target for NY Fair Use
  300. 2003-09-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Movies Fair Use
  301. 2003-09-25 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [gus-at-inodes.org: Re: What's going on with Embperl???]
  302. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Help needed this Embperl Development: What's going on with Embperl???
  303. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl 1 Class happening from tonight and notes
  304. 2003-09-24 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Perl 1 Class happening from tonight and notes
  305. 2003-09-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 1 Class happening from tonight and notes
  306. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nycwireless] RIAA's mistake highlights 802.11 vulnerability
  307. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nycwireless] RIAA's mistake highlights 802.11 vulnerability
  308. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Talking about 12 year-old copyright violators... See "The New Yorker" cover for Sept. 29.
  309. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fighting the Microsoft Mail Bomb
  310. 2003-09-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Fighting the Microsoft Mail Bomb
  311. 2003-09-24 From: "Ruben" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fighting the Microsoft Mail Bomb
  312. 2003-09-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Important Conference which we need to attend
  313. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Important Conference which we need to attend
  314. 2003-09-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Computer Associates' Open Innovation Strategy takes Linux to ente
  315. 2003-09-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] HP Expected to Indemnify Linux Customers
  316. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Important Conference which we need to attend
  317. 2003-09-24 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today
  318. 2003-09-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  319. 2003-09-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Important Conference which we need to attend
  320. 2003-09-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] RE:Business application SW for Linux
  321. 2003-09-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: computer resources
  322. 2003-09-23 Nat Friedman <nat-at-ximian.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: computer resources
  323. 2003-09-23 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: computer resources
  324. 2003-09-22 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.com> Subject: [hangout] Come out and hang flyers.
  325. 2003-09-22 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] RE: tomorrow: Orientation Board Meeting and FSI Planning Meeting
  326. 2003-09-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Identity Theft]
  327. 2003-09-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  328. 2003-09-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] sspamassassin
  329. 2003-09-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Slackware Linux 9.1 Beta 2 Available
  330. 2003-09-18 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Will a New Software Strategy Lift the Dark Clouds Over Sun?
  331. 2003-09-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Los Alamos Linux cluster to keep watch on nukes
  332. 2003-09-16 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Open source helps education effort in Third World
  333. 2003-09-30 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  334. 2003-09-30 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> RE: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  335. 2003-09-30 Mitzu Handy <MHandy-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> Subject: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  336. 2003-09-30 From: "Mark S. Gold" <MARK-at-brooklyn.cuny.edu> Subject: [hangout] RE: GNOME Conference Plans
  337. 2003-09-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft agrees to TRON tie-up
  338. 2003-09-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  339. 2003-09-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenBSD used in MS Services for Unix 3.0
  340. 2003-09-29 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Need Apple PowerBook G4 Power supply
  341. 2003-09-26 Mark Bucciarelli <mark-at-hubcapconsulting.com> Subject: [hangout] Chicago Tribune Copyright Ethics Quiz
  342. 2003-09-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft Holdout Massachusetts Opts For Open Source
  343. 2003-09-26 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft: National Security Threat?
  344. 2003-09-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Important Conference which we need to attend
  345. 2003-09-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Danger Zone
  346. 2003-09-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] China Linux lobby a major threat to Microsoft Windows
  347. 2003-09-19 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Board Meeting Minutes - Tahdah
  348. 2003-09-17 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] job: (Recruiter) contract - Nassau county, NY - C# SQL-server]
  349. 2003-09-09 From: "akbar pasha" <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] Sex Needed
  350. 2003-09-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Sex Needed
  351. 2003-09-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Sex Needed
  352. 2003-09-07 From: "Ray C." <ray-pub-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS Materials
  353. 2003-09-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: CYCLONES PLAYOFF TIX ON SALE NOW! [info-at-brooklyncyclones.com]
  354. 2003-09-16 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [DMCA_Discuss] Should Microsoft be Liable for Bugs? (fwd)
  355. 2003-09-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Moving from Slashdot to SlashDo

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