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DATE 2016-10-07
FROM Rick Moen
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Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):

> it is not like guns and butter...

It's a fair point that, unlike the production of and trade in guns and
butter, spending directed towards state prisons has only an extremely
weak multiplier effect, no matter how high the marginal propensity to
consume in the larger economy.

(Oh, wait, that's _not_ the point you were trying to make. You were
having a go at that thing where, if you tell reality it doesn't exist
consistently enough, it might go away.)

I should explain, here, I'm talking about economics and public policy,
so I'm not participating in the exchange of ideological positions you
try to reduce nearly every discussion to. Anyway, try to teke notes.


> ...and if it was, it would still be irrelevant.

Again, thank you for not being a California voter, because _this_
citizen of the Golden State places keen interest in decisions about
where to use limited public funds. Again, your basic guns or butter
decision.

To put it in Economics 101 terms (which I regret is probably a bit out
of your experience, but, as Bobbie Burns said, a man's reach should
exceed his grasp, eh?), there was an explosion of artificial demand for
state prison services starting in the 1980s, driven by crude and
ineffective attempts at social engineering that failed utterly, leaving
an absurdly vast prison population, many of whom obviously did not
belong them, and at staggering expense to the state.

The voters and Legislature have walked back from the brink of disaster
on this one, but the spending and rates of incarceration remain far too
high as a hangover effect, gradually getting fixed.

Maybe one day we'll be able to afford higher education, again.
Meanwhile, please keep concentrating your screwing-up-states efforts on
the Empire State, as the resumption of relative sanity around here is
hard-won and I'd hate to lose it again.

It wasn't 22 prisons, it turns out, but rather 23. And it's just sad
that most of that was just pure wasteage.

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  109. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  110. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  111. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  112. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  113. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  114. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  115. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  116. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  117. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  118. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  119. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  120. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  121. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  122. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  123. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  124. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  125. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  126. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  127. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  128. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  129. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bucharest, here we come
  130. 2016-10-13 ruth02-at-web.de Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  131. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bucharest, here we come
  132. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  133. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  134. 2016-10-13 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: How to Decrease Priority of a Process Beyond
  135. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  136. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  137. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  138. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bucharest, here we come
  139. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] UNESCO declares Jews don't exist
  140. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  141. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  142. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  143. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  144. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  145. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  146. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  147. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  148. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  149. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  150. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  151. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  152. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  153. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  154. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  155. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  156. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  157. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  158. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [luny-talk] Fwd: [LUNY!] UNIGROUP 20-OCT-2016
  159. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] AlQuadia in Yemen? Where? Not over here!
  160. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  161. 2016-10-13 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] AlQuadia in Yemen? Where? Not over here!
  162. 2016-10-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  163. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  164. 2016-10-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  165. 2016-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: News from Hackster.io
  166. 2016-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] a new generation discovers freedom
  167. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] oldie but goodie
  168. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] The First Lady behind all those criminal plots
  169. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  170. 2016-10-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  171. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Secretary of Commerce Ronald Harmon "Ron" Brown
  172. 2016-10-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: phishtank
  173. 2016-10-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  174. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  175. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [Learn] 3d scanning in the field
  176. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Jobs
  177. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] mandated decryption
  178. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  179. 2016-10-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  180. 2016-10-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Secretary of Commerce Ronald Harmon "Ron" Brown
  181. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  182. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Secretary of Commerce Ronald Harmon "Ron" Brown
  183. 2016-10-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Secretary of Commerce Ronald Harmon "Ron" Brown
  184. 2016-10-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  185. 2016-10-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Secretary of Commerce Ronald Harmon "Ron" Brown
  186. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  187. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  188. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  189. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  190. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  191. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  192. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  193. 2016-10-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  194. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  195. 2016-10-18 From: "American Museum of Natural History" <email-at-amnh.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The Science of Predicting an Election and Brain 101
  196. 2016-10-18 IEEE Computer Society <csconnection-at-computer.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] FINAL WEEK: Registration Discount Ends Friday for
  197. 2016-10-18 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  198. 2016-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] paleo projects
  199. 2016-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] and one chain to control them all
  200. 2016-10-20 IEEE Computer Society <csconnection-at-computer.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Can Artificial Intelligence Be Safe? Find out at
  201. 2016-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] publication
  202. 2016-10-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] and one chain to control them all
  203. 2016-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] and one chain to control them all
  204. 2016-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  205. 2016-10-21 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2016:2592-1: important:
  206. 2016-10-21 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] openSUSE-SU-2016:2584-1:
  207. 2016-10-21 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2016:2585-1: important:
  208. 2016-10-21 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2016:2589-1: important:
  209. 2016-10-21 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2016:2592-1: important:
  210. 2016-10-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] and one chain to control them all
  211. 2016-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] and one chain to control them all
  212. 2016-10-21 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rubin please stop sending opensuse security alerts
  213. 2016-10-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Rubin please stop sending opensuse security
  214. 2016-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  215. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie Night
  216. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie Night
  217. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie Night
  218. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  219. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  220. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  221. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Clinton is positively unqualified for public office
  222. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  223. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  224. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  225. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  226. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  227. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  228. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  229. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  230. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  231. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  232. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  233. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  234. 2016-10-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  235. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  236. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  237. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  238. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  239. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  240. 2016-10-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  241. 2016-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] movie week
  242. 2016-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is just
  243. 2016-10-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  244. 2016-10-27 ISOC-NY announcements <announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5Bisoc-ny=5D_JOB=3A_Adjunct_Prof_for_C?=
  245. 2016-10-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  246. 2016-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] New member
  247. 2016-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] FSF - times passses
  248. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  249. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  250. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  251. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  252. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  253. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
  254. 2016-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  255. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  256. 2016-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  257. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  258. 2016-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  259. 2016-10-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  260. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  261. 2016-10-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  262. 2016-10-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  263. 2016-10-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  264. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  265. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Michelle Obama of Chicago tells all that elections
  266. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] clinton is just not qualified ... and this is
  267. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Apache 2.4, mod_perl 2.0.9,
  268. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] third parties run amuck
  269. 2016-10-30 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Apache 2.4, mod_perl 2.0.9,
  270. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Apache 2.4, mod_perl 2.0.9,
  271. 2016-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Orders for the Thesis,
  272. 2016-10-31 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] older programmers
  273. 2016-10-31 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] what happened to your Dad at Boeing ? ( if not
  274. 2016-10-31 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] military ? What, when, where ?
  275. 2016-10-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] military ? What, when, where ?
  276. 2016-10-30 From: "D. Pipes Mailing List" <dplist-at-danielpipes.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=22The_Mundane_Origins_of_Germany=27s_H?=
  277. 2016-10-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] what happened to your Dad at Boeing ? ( if not

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