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DATE | 2016-10-07 |
FROM | Rick Moen
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives!
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Fri Oct 7 19:10:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E16A163E9C; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:10:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from linuxmafia.com (linuxmafia.COM [198.144.195.186]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922E1161469 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rick by linuxmafia.com with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1bseHe-0000a8-E4 for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Fri, 07 Oct 2016 16:10:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 16:10:30 -0700 From: Rick Moen To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Message-ID: <20161007231030.GB31140-at-linuxmafia.com> References: <00948582-276b-e037-b502-c72b49468340-at-panix.com> <20161005043319.GN13715-at-linuxmafia.com> <20161007093439.GA29845-at-linuxmafia.com> <1ef74260-168d-9fe8-b494-4652624d3d49-at-panix.com> <20161007155059.GE13715-at-linuxmafia.com> <6420e9a1-d4c7-a163-3903-084ac9a5f558-at-panix.com> <20161007194135.GF13715-at-linuxmafia.com> <302586ec-49e6-be71-e26c-b6df97a18f6b-at-panix.com> <20161007220138.GA31140-at-linuxmafia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already. X-Mas: Bah humbug. X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: rick-at-linuxmafia.com X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on linuxmafia.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives! X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: NYLXS Discussions List List-Id: NYLXS Discussions List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "hangout"
Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
> But they do need them because they have prisoners.
Of whom there should be way, way, way fewer. Thus my point. Having the prisoner population balloon from 25,000 to around 130,000 -- more than a factor of _five_ -- while the state's population rose by 75%, is totally insane, and is the barest exterior indicator of the system having gone bonkers for some decades. Fortunately, this is slowly getting fixed.
> Your ideas about the 3 strikes rule et al, was answered before....
Not on this mailing list. Perhaps in a cupboard somewhere?
> They were implemented because of real problems and they worked > and now you need more prisons.
They 'worked' by screwing up the administration of justice, creating oversentencing and obviously wrong and arbitrary results that differed greatly between similar cases, and also coming close to bankrupting the state. Keep the day job, Ruben. You have absolutely no future in public administration.
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