|FROM ||Rick Moen
|SUBJECT ||Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives!
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Subject: Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives!
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Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
> But they do need them because they have prisoners.
Of whom there should be way, way, way fewer. Thus my point.
Having the prisoner population balloon from 25,000 to around 130,000 --
more than a factor of _five_ -- while the state's population rose by
75%, is totally insane, and is the barest exterior indicator of the
system having gone bonkers for some decades. Fortunately, this is
slowly getting fixed.
> Your ideas about the 3 strikes rule et al, was answered before....
Not on this mailing list. Perhaps in a cupboard somewhere?
> They were implemented because of real problems and they worked
> and now you need more prisons.
They 'worked' by screwing up the administration of justice, creating
oversentencing and obviously wrong and arbitrary results that differed
greatly between similar cases, and also coming close to bankrupting the
state. Keep the day job, Ruben. You have absolutely no future in
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