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| DATE | 2016-10-07 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hey, Ruben! Plastic bag initiatives!
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On 10/07/2016 11:50 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
>
>> On 10/07/2016 05:34 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>>> It turns out, within the last thirty years, California has built 22
>>> prisons. In that same time span, it's built _one_ additional University
>>> of California campus.
>>
>>
>> That is an irrelevant comparison.
>
> Exactly like guns and butter!
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_versus_butter_model
> (That's an Economics 101 thing. You wouldn't have heard of it.)
>
>
If they remove more supervising against checking for plastic bags, they
could afford more jails and campuses, not that they NEED more campuses.
>> Why did you need more campuses?
>
> Um, how about because of vastly more people?
>
> 1980: 23 million
> 2016: 40 million
>
> Seriously, Ruben? Was this _actually_ difficult for you to figure out?
>
>> You build campuses when you need them and you build prisons when you
>> need them.
>
> Oh, you mean when the state population increases by 75%, we ought to
> increase the number of University of California campuses by 75%?
> I agree. But we iCalifornia citizens were able to afford only a 10%
> increase -- in large part because the money got diverted to building
> those 22 prisons.
>
>> That stupid 3 strike law was created by a population desperate to
>> solve a crime problem that was swallowing them....
>
> Shoplifting and minor drug offences, two of the major categories on the
> books that stuffed the state prisons to such bulging proportions that
> the US Supreme court started intervening, were not 'swallowing' the
> citizenry of my state.
>
> I care about my tax money not getting wasted on account of broken public
> policy. You appear to not care about my tax money. Which is
> predictable, but screw you on that. And, again, thank you for not being
> a California voter.
>
>> And that is state level. I'm sure there is Municipal jails also. There
>> are about 40million people in California, FWIW.
>
> So, you're not _totally_ innumerate; you just cannot handle long
> division?
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