|Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] over ruled on OBL targeting.....
|Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu):
> no, I'm done playing. Your not listening and I don't feel like being
> told that it was OK that the Clintons had AlQuadia in Yemen but we
> shouldn't have saved NYC from being attacked for fear of upsetting
This is nothing at all like anything I've ever said, so you have a hell
of lot of gall talking about 'not listening'.
> If you vote for her, your voting for a former regime that....
Ah, this is your familiar 'the First Lady was the secret supreme
dictator over everything that happened in the Clinton Administration'
line. Read Alex Jones a lot, Ruben?
And that is followed by your equally familiar 'the one-term Secretary of
State under Obama has been the secret supreme dictator over everything
that happened during both Obama terms' line. Which is no saner, and
basically a five-year-old's model of how things work.
> allowed nuclear arms to be developed by Iran and then paid
> them to do it,
'Allowed'? I don't think they are asking our permission. And the only
money 'paid' to them so far is their own money that had been seized
You got a way to totally control what Iran is doing, feel free to run
for global dictator. I have a feeling your proposed solution involves
carpet bombing a la Cambodia and a resulting global round of irregular
warfare for the next fifty years that would make 9/11 look like a walk
in the park.
> who has allowed chemical weapons to be used in Syria
Again, I don't think our permission was asked. Your alternative course
of action, that would be the one with carpet bombings and invasions,
> allowed the Russians to land troops for the first time in the
> Persian gulf
Again, I don't think our permission was asked. And the Russians had
actually had a military presence in Tartus and elsewhere in Syria for
_decades_ (1971 in the case of Tartus), because they're an ally of the
regime. So, I imagine your alternative would be not just carpet
bombings and invasions, but maybe nuking Moscow?
> that caused unnecessary deaths in the embassy in Algeria
Excuse me? People are dying in our embassy in Algiers, Algeria? What
say? (I hope this isn't another incompetent effort to talk about the
temporary consulate and CIA annex building in one of the most volatile
towns in Libya.)
> refuses to recognize Jews as the rightful owners of Jerusalem
The following US presidents have all refused to recognise Jerusalem
(even west Jerusalem) as the capital of Israel: Truman, Eisenhower,
Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Obama.
That's the complete list. I think all of the _other_ presidents who've
done otherwise were correct, which... um... of course is the null set.
> who's foreign policy has cause the great movement of refugees since
> WWII in the slaughter of Syrian civilians
Syria has been a ludicrously unstable powderkeg since the Sykes-Picot
treaty of 1916 that created it. But if you want to find the guys who
lit the match, that would be Bush and Cheney more than anyone else.
> and she killed Ron Brown... she did.
With her magic wand that creates low cloud cover and causes USAF pilots
to go off-course and fly into mountains. Of _course_ she did! Probably
used that squad of flying monkeys.
Remind me what her motive was for this sinister and extremely messy and
Rube Goldberg-esque murder of 35 people, because I'm unclear on this, and
don't subscribe to Alex Jones's newsletter.
> and its obvious to everyone but the most petulant of individuals.
Projection: not just a psychopathy, now it's a lifestyle!
Anyway, I won't be voting for her. I'll be voting for a slate of 55
state electors pledged to vote for her and Kaine the Vanilla. There's a
Tell you what: Go be crazy on your own time. I'm on vacation.
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