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On 10/16/2016 09:14 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
>> He has been a pretty good supporter of the Jewish community for decades
>> and he has helped the Russian Emigres with man and material. He has
>> been generous with donations to Synagogues and Yeshiva. All
>> anti-Semites should be so inclined.
> You must be right. People never change their positions dramatically in =
> politics in just a couple of years for expediency's sake. And what
> would ADL know about Anti-Semitism, after all?
> Jonathan Greenblatt
> -at-TeamTrump should avoid rhetoric&tropes that historically have been
> used ag. Jews & still spur #antisemitism. Lets keep hate out of cmpgn
> Trump's Anti-Semitic Speech Came From Breitbart, The Alt-Right, And
> Alex Jones
> October 14, 2016 12:30 PM EDT ALEX KAPLAN
> Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump=E2=80=99s October 13 speech
> pushed the conspiracy theory that the media, corporations, and =E2=80=
> financial powers=E2=80=9D such as banks are, in concert, harming Americ=
> working with Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to defeat
> him. This claim -- which several journalists noted was an anti-Semitic
> dog whistle -- comes from the white nationalist =E2=80=9Calt-right=E2=
> which includes the website of Trump=E2=80=99s campaign CEO, Breitbart N=
> radio host conspiracy theorist Alex Jones.
> WASHINGTON =E2=80=93 Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump =
> Thursday invoked a series of stereotypes about Jews that are often
> deemed offensive and even anti-Semitic =E2=80=94 in an address to Jewish
> =E2=80=9CI=E2=80=99m a negotiator like you folks were negotiators,=E2=
=80=9D the controversial
> candidate declared to his audience at the Republican Jewish Coalition,
> as he explained that he would broker a stronger nuclear deal with Iran
> than the one concluded earlier this year. At another point in his
> speech, he said: =E2=80=9CIs there anyone in this room who doesn=E2=80=
> deals? Probably more than any room I=E2=80=99ve ever spoken.=E2=80=9D
> His speech came at the tail end of a morning of addresses in which the
> other Republican candidates boasted of their pro-Israel credentials and
> their close ties to the US Jewish community.
> Although Trump did reiterate his tight ties with his =E2=80=9Cfriend=E2=
> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the audience wasn=E2=80=99t tolerant of th=
> attempts to duck a question on Jerusalem. Asked about his position on
> the unification of the Israeli capital, Trump refused to commit =E2=80=
> most Republican candidates have =E2=80=93 to declaring the city to be t=
> eternal capital of the Jewish state, and was greeted with boos.
> However, the audience did not offer any negative response when Trump
> told them, =E2=80=9CYou=E2=80=99re not gonna support me even though you =
know I=E2=80=99m the
> best thing that could ever happen to Israel. And I=E2=80=99ll be that.=
> continued, evoking a stereotype about Jews, money and control, =E2=80=
> know why you=E2=80=99re not going to support me. You=E2=80=99re not goi=
ng to support me
> because I don=E2=80=99t want your money. Isn=E2=80=99t it crazy?=E2=80=
> According to AP, he added: =E2=80=9CYou want to control your own politi=
> Donald Trump shares images and tweets from white supremacists with his
> millions of followers. They, in turn, use social media to attack Jews
> who publicly oppose Trump=E2=80=99s election or simply ask Trump to sto=
> footsie with fascists. These attacks are often explicitly anti-Semitic.
> For most of these Jews, this is their first time being subjected to
> anti-Semitic attacks. As we have seen from their testimonials, it is an
> unnerving experience.
> Dana Schwartz found herself in this situation. Among the threats and
> jeers, an image of Schwartz in a gas chamber and a smiling Trump with
> his finger on the button. But unlike most journalists, she happened to
> work at the New York Observer, a newspaper owned by Donald Trump=E2=80=
> son-in-law, Jared Kushner.
> Kushner is more than just a Trump by marriage. He is a confident of the
> candidate, an advisor and a fixer. He is also, like Lieberman,
> religiously devout Jew and an ardent Zionist.
> So Schwartz wrote a public letter to Kushner. How, she asked, could he
> support a man who promotes anti-Semitic propaganda and whose followers
> attack Jews with anti-Semitic language and imagery? =
> Kushner responded. He testified to Trump=E2=80=99s acceptance of him a=
> wife, who converted to Judaism. He told his own family=E2=80=99s harrow=
> Holocaust story. He asserted that the accusations against Trump are
> He condemned the attacks on Schwartz. And then he seemed to concede the
> obvious. The Star of David money shot was a problem. It was no ordinary
> star. It had been posted in haste. Trump (or his team) can be =E2=80=9C=
> and make =E2=80=9Csmall mistakes.=E2=80=9D
> Later that day, at a press conference, Trump disagreed. He hadn=E2=80=
> careless and no mistakes had been made. The tweet, which had been
> removed, should have stayed up. The Jewish star on the pile of money
> held no deeper meaning. While he didn=E2=80=99t mention Kushner by name=
> rebuke was plain.
> According to classic anti-Semitic myth, Jews exert control from behind
> the scenes. So a Lieberman or a Sanders, while undesirable to the
> typical anti-Semite, is ironically less of a threat than Jewish
> reporters, financiers, and intellectuals pulling the strings behind the
> scenes. And, less of a threat than a Jew like Jared, whispering in
> Trump=E2=80=99s ear.
> When push comes to shove, and push certainly will come to shove, Jews
> should know that Trump doesn=E2=80=99t need them. That=E2=80=99s what h=
e told the
> assembled at the Republican Jewish Coalition this past December; it=E2=
> what he told the press when he undercut his son-in-law.
> He needs only the mob. Jews are expendable. =
> I'm sure you're right. All of this is just paranoid imagination. He'd
> never just try to use you, and have fallen in love with the support of =
> anti-Semitic mobs and organizations (Breitbart News, Alex Jones). I
> mean, that would be wrong.
> hangout mailing list
I'm a negotiator like you folks, we are negotiators," Trump said,
drawing laughter before pivoting to how he would renegotiate the Iran
deal. "Is there anybody that doesn't renegotiate deals in this room?
This room negotiates them -- perhaps more than any other room I've ever
The comments were largely met with laughter and smirks, and RJC
spokesman Mark McNulty downplayed suggestions that Trump's comments
pointed to Jewish stereotypes.
"Donald Trump is well aware of the composition of our board and our
audience -- one that includes many successful businessmen and women as
well as deal makers like him," McNulty told CNN.
But while Trump tried to win over the audience of wealthy Jewish
Republicans, the billionaire presidential candidate said he didn't
believe the assembled crowd would support him.
"You're not gonna support me because I don't want your money. You want
to control your politicians, that's fine. Five months ago I was with
you," Trump said, pointing to his recent past as a much sought-after
political donor who filled the campaign coffers of both Republicans and
Democrats. "I do want your support, but I don't want your money."
And while those comments also faced scrutiny, the Anti-Defamation
League, a leading hate speech and anti-Semitism watchdog, said Thursday
in a statement that ***"we do not believe that it was Donald Trump's
intention to evoke anti-Semitic stereotypes."***
No shit? Really?
"Here, context is everything," ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt said. "In
this case he is speaking to a group of Jewish Republicans, a significant
portion of whom are business people. We do not believe he intended his
comments regarding negotiations and money to relate specifically to
their Jewishness, but we understand that they could be interpreted that
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