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DATE 2008-11-02
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SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The protection of the GPL
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Linux.com

Everything Linux and Open Source
Alleged Israeli GPL violation settled out of court
October 27, 2008 (6:00:00 PM) - 5 days, 18 hours ago

By: Bruce Byfield

After two years of litigation, the parties involved in an Israeli law
suit that centered on the validity of the GNU General Public License
(GPL) have settled out of court. The result leaves the legal status of
the GPL in Israel unresolved.

As reported earlier on Linux.com, the case began in early 2006 when
Alexander Rabinovitch, CEO of International Chess University (IchessU)
approached Alexander Maryanovsky, the developer of Jin, a Java-based
chess client, about writing a chess client and server for IchessU. When
Maryanovsky declined, IchessU produced its own software, which
Maryanovsky described as "95% my code and 5% theirs."

When Maryanovsky's attempts to discuss the matter in person with
Rabinovitch were refused, he retained Jonathan J. Klinger, an Israeli
attorney with a familiarity with free and open source licenses and a
member of the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

In filing the case against Rabinovitch and IchessU, Maryanovsky claimed
that the IchessU software violated the GPL because its copyright refused
to give him credit, and because the client was released with a
proprietary end-user license agreement. In addition, he suggested that
an audio-visual module developed by IchessU was a derivative work, since
it could not compile without his code. Maryanovsky also alleged bad
faith negotiations and copyright violation. He asked for 110,000 NIS
($25,000) in damages -- an amount deliberately kept small so he could
take advantage of a fast-track option that would bring a judgment in 30
days.

Events became complicated because Rabinovitch immigrated to North
America, and could not be served notice in the case. Maryanovsky claimed
that Rabinovitch discussion of the case with Linux.com was proof that he
was aware of the law suit, and filed for default judgment.

However, by this point, Rabinovitch, who earlier showed an inclination
not to take the case seriously, had retained Haim Ravia, an Israeli
lawyer expert in intellectual property law, and was actively defending
himself. By April 2007, Ravia had filed a detailed defense, which
suggested that the case "was submitted in bad faith, and without legal
or factual basis as a mere publicity stunt. As such, the plaintiff has
widely publicized the lawsuit on Internet sites both in Israel and
abroad" -- a reference to Maryanovsky's postings on his Web site and his
interview with Linux.com.

While the defense showed no deep understanding of the GPL, it had the
effect of moving the case out of the fast-track proceedings and into
regular court. At that point, Maryanovsky, Rabinovitch, and their
respective lawyers both stopped talking to the media, and a news
blackout descended on the case for 18 months.
The settlement

News of the settlement finally came in the form of identical
announcements on both the Jin and IchessU sites. The announcement is
short on details, but, since it is described as mutual, it seems clear
that the wording was negotiated between the two parties.

The main focus of the announcement seems to be that both parties went to
extremes in discussing each other in public. IchessU and Rabinovich
state that:

their conduct in relation to the use of Jin personally hurt
Maryanovsky and was against his wishes, and they regret doing so. Mr.
Rabinovich emphasizes that IchessU and himself were acting in good faith
and in accordance to their legal consultation at the time.

For Maryanovksy's part, he acknowledges that:

his actions in response to IchessU and its manager's use of Jin hurt
their business reputation and their name, and he emphasizes that this
was not his aim but he was acting in order to protect what he saw as
infringement of his rights.

The announcement ends by saying "the parties express satisfaction in
ending their dispute and thank their attorneys," and that "the content
of the settlement is kept confidential."
The GPL in the case

Although requested to say what they could, particularly about the
effects that the case might have on the GPL, those involved are keeping
largely silent. Haim Ravia would say only, "Since the parties agreed to
keep the details of the settlement confidential, it will not be
appropriate for me to relate to this case in any way."

Klinger was only slightly more forthcoming. "The settlement was out of
court and therefore does not affect the enforceability of other GPL
claims," he told Linux.com. "The only effect it has is on the parties.
How other parties may see this settlement is another issue. It might
have done some effect on other parties acquaintance with GPL and open
source and might cause more interest in open source projects."

However, despite Klinger's statement, it seems that the GPL emerges
somewhat stronger from the case. Although short, the announcement goes
out of its way to specify that Jin "was licensed under the GNU General
Public Announcement" -- a detail that would seem out of place if the GPL
and its enforceability was not at the heart of the case. Moreover, since
the case lasted 18 months from the time that the defense filed its case,
apparently the GPL was not easily dismissed under Israeli law.

However, the most telling indication of what happened in the case
appears on the IchessU download page. If you click to download, you are
taken to a page that states that the download includes "the IchessU AV
program" and "the third party software known as Jin client for chess
servers," which is copyright by Alexander Maryanovsky. Click on the end
user license agreement, and it turns out to be a standard proprietary
license. Presumably, the license refers either to the IchessU AV program
or the bundle, since the download clearly states that the Jin client is
freely distributable.

The likeliest way to read this information is that IchessU acknowledges
borrowing from Jin, and has come into GPL compliance for the client. In
return, Maryanovsky seems to have agreed to drop his claim that the
audio-visual module is a derivative work. In other words, the validity
of the GPL has apparently been upheld, but at the cost of leaving a
program uninvestigated that may very well be a GPL violation. Although
the question of whether Maryanovsky received any damages remains open,
the news that most interests the free software community seems
reasonably clear.

If these suppositions are valid, then the Jin-IchessU case may have the
same effect in Israel that the cases filed on behalf of BusyBox by the
Software Freedom Law Center have had in the United States. In other
words, although these cases have been settled before a judgment could be
delivered, the fact that defendants chose to settle and come into
compliance creates the impression that the GPL cannot be contested. The
result, with any luck, will be that others will think twice before
others violate the GPL or contest cases that involve it.

If that is so, then the outcome is not as satisfying as a complete
vindication of the GPL would be. All the same, it provides a happy
ending of a sort -- a qualified one, but, for free software supporters,
a happy ending all the same.
Read in the original layout at: http://www.linux.com/feature/151484

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  80. 2008-11-10 mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux
  81. 2008-11-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux
  82. 2008-11-10 mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux
  83. 2008-11-10 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux post on craigs list
  84. 2008-11-10 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux post on craigs list
  85. 2008-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux
  86. 2008-11-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux
  87. 2008-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux
  88. 2008-11-10 From: "Ronny Abraham" <ronny.coder-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Does any one have a copy of the jesus linux post on craigs list
  89. 2008-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Score a Job in the Big Leagues from Monster and MLB.com]
  90. 2008-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Backup Network Services
  91. 2008-11-14 Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Backup Network Services
  92. 2008-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: (forw) How Mirka Got Her Sword]
  93. 2008-11-14 From: "Spencer Guiley" <sales-at-hilltop.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  94. 2008-11-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  95. 2008-11-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  96. 2008-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  97. 2008-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [sk-at-accessnyc.com: C++ full-time opportunities in NYC]
  98. 2008-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  99. 2008-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  100. 2008-11-15 From: "Spencer Guiley" <sales-at-hilltop.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  101. 2008-11-15 From: "Spencer Guiley" <sales-at-hilltop.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  102. 2008-11-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The all new and improved installfest.org site is online
  103. 2008-11-16 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The all new and improved installfest.org site is
  104. 2008-11-16 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  105. 2008-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  106. 2008-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] BTW - Time for an NYLXS planning meeting and installfest.
  107. 2008-11-16 From: "Spencer Guiley" <sales-at-hilltop.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  108. 2008-11-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  109. 2008-11-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on the Network Question
  110. 2008-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Embperl Abandoned: Next Steps?
  111. 2008-11-17 mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Law professor fires back at song-swapping lawsuits
  112. 2008-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  113. 2008-11-21 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  114. 2008-11-21 From: "Tameek" <tameek-at-gmail.com> R: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  115. 2008-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  116. 2008-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: R: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  117. 2008-11-21 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  118. 2008-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  119. 2008-11-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  120. 2008-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  121. 2008-11-22 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  122. 2008-11-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  123. 2008-11-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: MONDAY, November 24 6:30-8PM Sunny Dubey on The Linux DJ (Live
  124. 2008-11-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New President - Same Iran
  125. 2008-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  126. 2008-11-23 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] BTW - Time for an NYLXS planning meeting and
  127. 2008-11-23 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  128. 2008-11-23 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  129. 2008-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  130. 2008-11-24 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  131. 2008-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  132. 2008-11-24 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  133. 2008-11-24 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  134. 2008-11-24 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  135. 2008-11-24 From: "Tameek" <tameek-at-gmail.com> R: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  136. 2008-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  137. 2008-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting at the Brooklyn Marriot Tuesday at 7:00PM
  138. 2008-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting at the Brooklyn Marriot Tuesday
  139. 2008-11-25 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  140. 2008-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  141. 2008-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  142. 2008-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  143. 2008-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Coin Design with Free Software
  144. 2008-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest Priminary Schedule
  145. 2008-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Coin Design with Free Software
  146. 2008-11-27 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy thanks giving
  147. 2008-11-27 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy thanks giving
  148. 2008-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MTA Blackmail - you should read
  149. 2008-11-28 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest Priminary Schedule
  150. 2008-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest Priminary Schedule
  151. 2008-11-28 mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FW: Form 990-N E-filing Receipt - IRS Status: Accepted
  152. 2008-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FW: Form 990-N E-filing Receipt - IRS Status:
  153. 2008-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 02 2008 Brooklyn
  154. 2008-11-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 02
  155. 2008-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  156. 2008-11-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 02 2008 Brooklyn
  157. 2008-11-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 02
  158. 2008-11-29 From: "Tameek" <tameek-at-gmail.com> R: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 022008 Brooklyn
  159. 2008-11-29 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  160. 2008-11-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  161. 2008-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  162. 2008-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 02
  163. 2008-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Board Meeting
  164. 2008-11-30 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Installfest: Tuesday Evening: Dec 02 2008 Brooklyn

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