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DATE | 2008-11-05 |
FROM | tameek@gmail.com
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SUBJECT | R: Re: R: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Presidential Politics and the Press
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Respectly Ruben i'm paraphrasing John's judgement of himself. It's debatable he earned any of his successes in his life. For example he gets into the military academy after have the exactly same name as his general grand father, and his father who was also a decorated military service man. Second example, he hooks up with Cindy in 1980 and with the help of her money gets elected to the House of Rep in 1981.
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-----Original Message----- From: Ruben Safir
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:53:55 To: Subject: Re: R: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Presidential Politics and the Press
tameek-at-gmail.com wrote: > As opposed to Liebermann, and Bloomy, ObAma was running against someone with welll below average intelligence. The fact that McCain got as far as he did is a true testament to the racism, stupidity, and paranoia of many in our country. > > >
Well that is saying alot. I'm sure the wonders of the NYC Democratic party where smarter than McCain.
In your view, over McCains 15 + year record which I've watched fairly closely, which bills did he write which demonstrate his below average intelligence? And what racism, stupidity and paranoia has the public displayed with regard to supporting McCain?
Mark Green might be a guy with below average intelligence but McCain has largely been accomplished and intelligent in his time in the Senate. I didn't do this during the election because I didn't want to really inflame the list, but would you like to review the McCain record and we can determine just what kind of politician he has been?
Ruben
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ruben Safir > > Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:58:50 > To: > Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Presidential Politics and the Press > > > Michael L. Richardson wrote: > >> the presidency is a job you do not learn until you are in it no matter >> what other positions ou have had. As I have said ever sense the >> 1950's I have been told and expect NYC to be nuked. I do not let that >> stop me from living. my biggest concern is getting shot by the >> police and that has and does affect my life. >> > > > Michael, as a friend, maybe you can explain to me why Oboma received > nearly 97+ of the black vote? Neither Joe Lieberman > nor Mike Bloomburg gets 97% of the Jewish vote. > > Ruben > >> Ruben Safir wrote: >> >>> Ron Guerin wrote: >>> >>>> Ruben Safir wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Ron Guerin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Ruben Safir >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 04:08:30PM -0500, Ronny Abraham wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good point. haha. Time to pack up and leave then! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm figuring it out now. I have a position in Wyoming >>>>>>>> or Arizona, possibly upstate NY >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> That settles it. I'm not voting for Ruben as CEO of Brooklyn. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> There is not going to be a Brooklyn. It's pretty clear to me that >>>>> people simply don't understand and put >>>>> their theology over real politics and our safety. NYC has been safe >>>>> over the last 7 years because of an intense >>>>> effort and out military keeping the nut cases busy. And what does the >>>>> Chicago political machine care if NY >>>>> suffers a nuclear attack, or if truck bombs destroy the Brooklyn >>>>> Bridge >>>>> and Manhattan Bridges? >>>>> >>>>> It's not safe. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I admit that New York City is a dangerous place to live, but only given >>>> its world symbolism. I don't feel any less safe today than yesterday >>>> though. If you think those bozos in the executive branch have been >>>> keeping you safe, then I can understand why you're concerned that it's >>>> time for them to retire to a life of highly paid speaking engagements. >>>> Brooklyn won't be the same without you, but I'm not going to be >>>> leaving. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Since the war in Iraq there hasn''t been a PEEP of a threat against >>> the city and those that have >>> been uncovered have been incredibly amateurish in there nature...and >>> I've been watching very >>> closely since 9-11. Prior to that there was an escalation of but >>> threats and attempts, many of them >>> including the attempted gas attack on the LIRR terminal, the bomb van >>> uncovered prior to entering >>> the Manhattan Bridge, and the shooting of Ari Halperin on the >>> Brooklyn Bridge, showed serious >>> escalation in threats to the Borough and the city. >>> >>> The deportations of several Islamic clerics in Bay Ridge and >>> downtown Brooklyn put a serious >>> dent in things as well. >>> >>> This election, which was driven by racism with a 97%+ Black American >>> vote, gives me the same sick >>> feeling I had with the Dinkins election. These are both smooth >>> speaking black politicians pushed by >>> corrupt machine politicians into positions they are philosophically >>> in capable of handling the problems >>> that they will need to tackle, and have no experience in governing. >>> >>> >>> Ruben >>> >>> >>> > > >
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