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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:44:13 -0500
From: "Ronny Abraham"
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police
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I'm confused. If they stopped you many times and never attacked you,
then what makes you think they will? I'm trying to understand this,
so please excuse me if I don't quite get it. Are they insulting?
Threatening? When you say "stopped" it sounds like stopped as in
"traffic ticket". Is that accurate? Or do they give you a very hard
and frightening time? Please explain.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM, mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com
> I have been stopped by them many times. Some they had a valid reason some they did not. Statistics is one thing. Thinking is this the day I get shot by the police is another. And no I do not think about getting shot in a drive by or by thugs. I no longer have peace of mind.
> -----Original Message-----
> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:05:17 pm
> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
> From: Ronny Abraham
> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police
> Just out of curiosity, have you ever been attacked or harassed by the
> police? I'm also no longer impressed with the NYPD. I have a friend
> who works there and he can barely tolerate it. On the other hand,
> Ruben has a point, statistically, your odds of getting their attention
> in the first place are pretty low.
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:02 PM, mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com
>> Uniform police one on one I can deal with it is the undercover ones that are the real threat.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:24:55 pm
>> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
>> From: Ruben Safir
>> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police
>> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 01:21:35PM -0500, Michael L. Richardson wrote:
>>> Ruben, my fear of being shot by the police is real, I live with it every
>>> day, and have not come to terms with it. Consider my neighbors did not
>>> take a oath to protect me, the police did. When I was growing up I
>>> learned that if I needed help to call the Fire Department, not the
>>> Police in 56 years I have not found a reason to change that. Yes I
>>> know we call 911 now and they send who they think is best (if I need
>>> help I will report a fire and take my chances with the courts).
>> Your fear might be real, but it is irrational. Your neighbors are far
>> more dangous to you than the police.
>> When we were stopped for that ticket that evening a few months back,
>> I was the one nervous. You were cool as a cat.
>>> Ruben Safir wrote:
>>> >Michael L. Richardson wrote:
>>> >>the presidency is a job you do not learn until you are in it no
>>> >>matter what other positions ou have had. As I have said ever sense
>>> >>the 1950's I have been told and expect NYC to be nuked. I do not let
>>> >>that stop me from living. my biggest concern is getting shot by the
>>> >>police and that has and does affect my life.
>>> >Yeah I know, this irrational fear of the police whe