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DATE | 2008-11-05 |
FROM | From: "Ronny Abraham"
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Nov 5 18:44:21 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mA5NiJlr013685 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:44:21 -0500 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id mA5NiIQr013684 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:44:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mA5NiFLg013681 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:44:18 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so181039fge.1 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:44:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wA/CtE3qpUFqCoUeu9gZgE6lxbpxaRtzSr9STh4YanY=; b=YEBmTDy0VjQo34GGnFVVBuNiUxRGq/oRMVRAwv9sbCAKWrjsjK66Pp0JnLD76hH/68 vZHsB5zkOjuUokmIhDj/a74Bowyg/HZ8Th9afW+MhqdiGL4Kx47rVzwprlYeBJSM8kTh +GT+2cr7an9tW27Z6psSZu0NoSbReIr9beUKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GxrE+9gzaATEJmuLpnDF+aMmZACzF/NxwLcK/lobnSiSvYchcS4Zb3Tsrcgom4VkgO h1dGW031ir/Yz5FNlWQm6Suix/F1sgVn6joBh/mRi3DHQJZNnFppyCTkkg/LgRMfMpSJ FSaI6TWzJWQRwy8Hb2Nr3SlHjHhjzd86UF1cA= Received: by 10.181.143.6 with SMTP id v6mr471605bkn.2.1225928653131; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.232.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:44:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7405d1440811051544j76bc370te85840a3a6f0562-at-mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:44:13 -0500 From: "Ronny Abraham" To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police In-Reply-To: <0MKp8S-1Kxrqx2Tgp-0001hh-at-mrelay.perfora.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0MKp8S-1Kxrqx2Tgp-0001hh-at-mrelay.perfora.net> Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
I'm confused. If they stopped you many times and never attacked you, then what makes you think they will? I'm trying to understand this, so please excuse me if I don't quite get it. Are they insulting? Threatening? When you say "stopped" it sounds like stopped as in "traffic ticket". Is that accurate? Or do they give you a very hard and frightening time? Please explain.
-ron
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:31 PM, mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com wrote: > I have been stopped by them many times. Some they had a valid reason some they did not. Statistics is one thing. Thinking is this the day I get shot by the police is another. And no I do not think about getting shot in a drive by or by thugs. I no longer have peace of mind. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:05:17 pm > To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com > From: Ronny Abraham > Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police > > Just out of curiosity, have you ever been attacked or harassed by the > police? I'm also no longer impressed with the NYPD. I have a friend > who works there and he can barely tolerate it. On the other hand, > Ruben has a point, statistically, your odds of getting their attention > in the first place are pretty low. > > -ron > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 2:02 PM, mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com > wrote: >> Uniform police one on one I can deal with it is the undercover ones that are the real threat. >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:24:55 pm >> To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com >> From: Ruben Safir >> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Police >> >> On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 01:21:35PM -0500, Michael L. Richardson wrote: >>> >>> Ruben, my fear of being shot by the police is real, I live with it every >>> day, and have not come to terms with it. Consider my neighbors did not >>> take a oath to protect me, the police did. When I was growing up I >>> learned that if I needed help to call the Fire Department, not the >>> Police in 56 years I have not found a reason to change that. Yes I >>> know we call 911 now and they send who they think is best (if I need >>> help I will report a fire and take my chances with the courts). >>> >> >> >> Your fear might be real, but it is irrational. Your neighbors are far >> more dangous to you than the police. >> >> When we were stopped for that ticket that evening a few months back, >> I was the one nervous. You were cool as a cat. >> >> Ruben >> >>> Ruben Safir wrote: >>> >Michael L. Richardson wrote: >>> >>the presidency is a job you do not learn until you are in it no >>> >>matter what other positions ou have had. As I have said ever sense >>> >>the 1950's I have been told and expect NYC to be nuked. I do not let >>> >>that stop me from living. my biggest concern is getting shot by the >>> >>police and that has and does affect my life. >>> > >>> > >>> >Yeah I know, this irrational fear of the police whe > >
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