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DATE 2002-01-07
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Hi, I wanted to follow up to the group about our last educational
institue meeting. The Free Software Institute had its first planning
meeting last Thursday. It went pretty well. We had a lot of things on
the agenda and we covered all of them to some degree.

The first thing we talked about, and what we spent most of our time on
was developing a curriculum. As you all know, the point is to develop a
cradle-to-grave Linux/Unix training. As it currently stands we have the
following worked out. [snip, i put the draft of the curriculum outline
at the end (this is also on the web site)].

We have a deal worked out with a reliable hardware vendor to provide us
with inexpensive boxes. Each student can (they are highly encouraged
to..) buy themselves one of these boxes, and use them to install and
practice on. They will then be able to take these systems home with
them for their own use.

The first of these classes (Intro to Linux 1) is starting soon. Check
the web site for details. I highly reccomend this class if you would
like to get up to date on (and feel comfortable with) the topics
covered, remember the classes will build on each other. But you'll need
to act quickly.

There will also be some classes not listed as part of the core
curriculum (electives if you will) covering different toolsets and
languages. (think LISP and GTK) They are a great way to expand your
knowledge. The GTK workshop (check the web site) is also starting soon.
And this is an exceelent way to get started or hone your programming
skills.

We also discussed setting up an online distance learning curriculum.
these would be designed to supplement the classes themselves and in the
beginning be similar to course materials. We also discussed creating a
variety of training materials for other outlets that need better
Unix/Linux/Free Software materials. These needs a lot more thought and
planning. The current thinking is that this would help us generating
funds as well.

This brought us inevitably to licencing and permissions issues. This is
something we will need to discuss further in the future. Don't worry,
we'll work all of this out together.

Teaching stipends were also discussed. We feel that $500 is a
reasonable ammount. And what we may be able to afford at thins point.
This is a volunteer organization.

We talked a lot about volunteering and meeting different people's needs.
This is an open discussion. If anybody would like to discuss
volunteering please don't be hesitant about getting ahold of me. We can
discuss what you can do. We need a lot of help with different things
and a lot of work can accomodate varying levels of commitment. Don't
worry, just call me (or email).

We also talked about our lecture series and inservice meetings (same
thing). These are really exciting too. We're looking at a monthly
schedule here (maybe bi-weekly if we have enough volunteers?). We also
want to be able to digitally record these in the future. These lectures
and talks are a way to come together as a community and share our
knowledge. There are a variety of different things that each of us do
on a regular basis that we would be ineterested in sharing with others.
Please get ahold of me if you think you might be interested in holding
one. This is really an open subject area thing, as long as it has to do
with free software. This is also an excellent way to hone your teaching
and public speaking skills. (We're a pretty forgiving audience.) and if
you are considering teaching a class or even just playing with the idea,
this is a great way to warm up.

We're holding another one tonight, by the way. Please try to make it.
Brendan McAdams is talking about Creating Secure Transactions over the
Web with Free Software at the Killarny Rose, 82 Beaver Street, 2nd
Floor, 6:30PM.

We also talked about securing space for our classes. While we have a
location for our first two classes, we are looking for a secure and
stabel place to hold our classes untill we have our own place. We need
storage space for the computers, as well as enough room to hold a class.
Community or education oriented space is a possibilty. If you think you
might know of a place we can use, or might be able to secure us a
location, please get ahold of me or Ruben ASAP.

Anyway, that's pretty much last Thursday's meeting.

Things are definately moving along. Please let me know if there is
anything you want to discuss. If you think you might like to volunteer,
email or IM me. You can also feel free to call. I think this can
really be an incredible thing here, with your help. :) I hope to see
you all tonight.

-Paul Rodríguez

email: sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com
AIM: sangretoro
phone: 201-864-4323



Introduction to Linux
Installation
Introduction to the Shell
Introduction to VI, vim,
vi commands:
Basic Shell comands
Directory tree
files, ownership, group permissions
Setting up X
sysinit - /etc/rc.d/init.d - turning services off and on
network setup
adding users - different on different systems
ifconfig - see network connections
modules - modprobe, demode, lsmod, kernel compile



Introduction to unix
Unix Tool, find, locate, man, grep, AWK, sort, df, ls, gcc, make
cp, ln, mv Permissions, tcp networking,route.


Introduction to Programming with Perl


Advanced Unix2
shell scripting, C programming, Desktop X.

Introduction to Apache: Linux 2
Install of mod perl, install of Apache, Install of embperl,
and mason, basic apache configuration with files and virtual
servers, etc


Advanced Web Programming with Perl
embperl, modperl, the apache request cycle, cgi's, html, forms,
cookies and sessions

Database Programming 1
MYSQL installation, Creating tables, performance evalutions,
SQL seelcts, Inserts, user permissions, Perl DBI, C API.


Introdution to Networking 1
REVIEW tcp/id, introduce mail, sendmail, bind, DNS, DHCP,
SAMBA, NFS, SSH, ROUTE







It was a good first meeting. had a great meeting the other night. We
talked for a few hours planning out a general curriculum, the setting up
of an online learning center to assist the classes, creating other sorts
of training materials as well, teaching stipends, volunteerism, and
sharing wisdom, opinions and annecdotes. :)



On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 09:17, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Following up on last nights wildly successful first Free Software
> Institute Meeting, the Chair of the Institute, and myself, wish to
> introduce the first class of our cradle to grave Linux/Free Software
> program.
>
> Paul will followup on the complete program, but I would like to
> announce the first class. This is a very exciting begining.
>
> The first class is called Intoduction to Linux. The cost is $200
> plus you can get purchase a computer through our network of
> hardware vendors to participate in the class. This class goes
> through the installation process of Linux on standard hardware
> and ONLY hardware which we order through our vendor will
> be allowed to be used in the classroom. This prevents us from
> turning into installfest maddness.
>
> People who spring for the machine (for less than $500) will
> beable to use it in further classes as we learn to build a powerful
> system.
>
> The class will be 5 classes in 5 weeks from
> Monday Febuary 4th until March 4th. All students
> MUST pay in advanced.
>
> The time of the class will be 7PM - 10:30PM We might push later is
> required. We will also meet on line for instruction on an agreed upon
> weeksly time to fill out about 6 hours a weeks instruction.
>
> We will hold class at
> Rosenswieg and Maffia at 845 3rd Avenue in Midtown Manhattan
>
>
> A maximum of 20 students can be accomedated.
>
> Checks are made payable to NYLXS.
>
> Final exams of this class is the installation of a system with
> basic setup.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________
>
> This is the Syllabus for the first class:
>
> Introduction to Linux
> Installation
> Boot Media, Kernels
> Hard Drives
> Partitions
> fdisk, type 82, 83 etc
> swap partitions, mkswap, swapon, partition types,
> patition tables, /boot /home /usr /var
> file systems, ext2, reiser, ext3, mke2fs
>
>
> Intro to the Shell
> Kernel ->getty->login-shell
> /etc/passwd
> adduser
> /etc/group
>
> Introduction to VI
> VI Commands (and vim)
> Command mode
> i=>insert
> o=>open
> a=>append
> dd=>delete
> yy=>yank
> p=> paste
> jklim
>
> edit more
> Typing to the screen
>
>
> execute mode
> :w write
> :q quit
>
> /search
> :wq! at all costs
> 1,$s/old/new/g - global substitutions
>
>
> Basic Shell Commands
> ls
> cp
> mv
> ls glob*
> cat
> ps
> pstree
> top
>
> Files, ownershop, group permission
>
>
> Setting up X
> XF86Setup
> Knowing your hardware
>
> Network Setup Basics
> ipaddress
> host name
> domain name
> gateway
> dns entries
>
> adding users on different systems
>
> ifconfig
> modules - lsmod, modprobe, depmode
>
>
> This class will be followed up by the Unix 1 Class.
>


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  3. 2002-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Core Perl is out - Reuven Lerner ]
  4. 2002-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS WebSite
  5. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  6. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  7. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
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  11. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  12. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  13. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  14. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  15. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction
  16. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  17. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  18. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  19. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  20. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  21. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  22. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  23. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  24. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  25. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
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  27. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
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  29. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  30. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
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  34. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  35. 2002-01-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
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  37. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  38. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  39. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  40. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  41. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  42. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  43. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [nylxs-announce] Fwd: Re: [hangout] First Public Relations
  44. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [nylxs-announce] Fwd: Re: [hangout] First Public Relations
  45. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  46. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  47. 2002-01-02 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  48. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  49. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  50. 2002-01-02 From: "joseph maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction
  51. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  52. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  53. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] GNUCHESS
  54. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] GNUCHESS
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  57. 2002-01-03 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Computerworld newletter Joke?
  58. 2002-01-04 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Audio InService
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  61. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hardware vendor
  62. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hardware vendor
  63. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  64. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  65. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  66. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  67. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  68. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  69. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  70. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
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  72. 2002-01-04 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  73. 2002-01-04 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  74. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  75. 2002-01-04 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  76. 2002-01-04 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Audio InService
  77. 2002-01-04 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Audio InService
  78. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fax from Widows
  79. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fax from Widows
  80. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  81. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  82. 2002-01-04 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  83. 2002-01-04 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  84. 2002-01-04 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WTC Update
  85. 2002-01-04 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WTC Update
  86. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  87. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  88. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  89. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  90. 2002-01-05 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  91. 2002-01-05 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  92. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Berkly to close down internet if given a chance
  93. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Berkly to close down internet if given a chance
  94. 2002-01-05 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Charlie Rose interviews Lawrence Lessig
  95. 2002-01-05 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Charlie Rose interviews Lawrence Lessig
  96. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  97. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  98. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Events Page
  99. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Time to kill? Help a UN site for kids...
  100. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Time to kill? Help a UN site for kids...
  101. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Time to kill? Help a UN site for kids...
  102. 2002-01-06 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  103. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  104. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  105. 2002-01-07 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  106. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  107. 2002-01-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Free Software Institute - Last Meeting, where we st
  108. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software Institute - Last Meeting, where we st and.
  109. 2002-01-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] hardware vendor
  110. 2002-01-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] hardware vendor
  111. 2002-01-07 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute - Last Meeting, where we stand.
  112. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In Service Tonite
  113. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In Service Tonite
  114. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux
  115. 2002-01-08 Alex Pilosov <alex-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  116. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  117. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  118. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] to education committee FYI
  119. 2002-01-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  120. 2002-01-08 Rubn Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Consultants
  121. 2002-01-08 Rubn Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Consultants
  122. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Emperor Linux
  123. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYACC [barry-at-weiser.net]
  124. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYACC [barry-at-weiser.net]
  125. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Public relations Comittee
  126. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Public relations Comittee
  127. 2002-01-08 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  128. 2002-01-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] thelinuxshow.com
  129. 2002-01-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] thelinuxshow.com
  130. 2002-01-08 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] to education committee FYI
  131. 2002-01-08 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] to education committee FYI
  132. 2002-01-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] booth sign up list
  133. 2002-01-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] booth sign up list
  134. 2002-01-09 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [nylug-talk] New To The World
  135. 2002-01-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Testimonials for the NYLXS JOURNAL
  136. 2002-01-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Testimonials for the NYLXS JOURNAL
  137. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCHOOLFORGE COALITION FORMED TO ADVANCE OPEN RESOURCES IN EDUCATION
  138. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCHOOLFORGE COALITION FORMED TO ADVANCE OPEN RESOURCES IN EDUCATION
  139. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] FreeDevelopers.net [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  140. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] FreeDevelopers.net [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  141. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Training Expenses - Paid for by the City of NY
  142. 2002-01-10 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] New to the World
  143. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Resources
  144. 2002-01-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] SCHOOLFORGE COALITION FORMED TO ADVANCE OPEN RESOURCES IN EDUCATION
  145. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  146. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  147. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  148. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Publisher
  149. 2002-01-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] LinuxWorld Expo: General info
  150. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  151. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  152. 2002-01-11 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Subject: [hangout] Tunney Act Ending
  153. 2002-01-11 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Subject: [hangout] Tunney Act Ending
  154. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What's wrong with Yahoo
  155. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What's wrong with Yahoo
  156. 2002-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: perl classes [frallon-at-yahoo.com]
  157. 2002-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: perl classes [frallon-at-yahoo.com]
  158. 2002-01-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Palm Datebook
  159. 2002-01-13 From: "Salvatore Denaro" <sdenaro-at-speakeasy.net> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  160. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM WANTS HELP FROM LINUX PROGRAMMERS
  161. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM WANTS HELP FROM LINUX PROGRAMMERS
  162. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  163. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  164. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  165. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  166. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] SECURITY WIRE DIGEST, VOL. 4, NO. 3, JANUARY 14, 2002 [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  167. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] SECURITY WIRE DIGEST, VOL. 4, NO. 3, JANUARY 14, 2002 [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  168. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SECURITY WIRE DIGEST, VOL. 4, NO. 3, JANUARY 14, 2002
  169. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  170. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InService Announcement
  171. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InService Announcement
  172. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] know site to list programming job? know programmer?
  173. 2002-01-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL
  174. 2002-01-16 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: Typo in last Re: [hangout] ssh
  175. 2002-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lobbying Writeup of Linux World
  176. 2002-01-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  177. 2002-01-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lost RAM and Printer Port
  178. 2002-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  179. 2002-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  180. 2002-01-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  181. 2002-01-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Lost RAM and Printer Port
  182. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Educating the Feds about Free Software
  183. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Teaching Space is opening for us
  184. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educating the Feds about Free Software
  185. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educating the Feds about Free Software
  186. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast Success
  187. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast Success
  188. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux One Class Clarification
  189. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Teaching Space is opening for us
  190. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Teaching Space is opening for us
  191. 2002-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wednesday 23 January 2002 NYLUG: Simon Lok on Email Privacy and Key Signing
  192. 2002-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use Meeting
  193. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure
  194. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure
  195. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure (HTML)
  196. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure (HTML)
  197. 2002-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs Info
  198. 2002-01-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Expo Booths signup for NYLXS/LXNY/NYLUG
  199. 2002-01-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Expo Booths signup for NYLXS/LXNY/NYLUG
  200. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  201. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I'm Back
  202. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I'm Back
  203. 2002-01-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  204. 2002-01-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  205. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  206. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  207. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] nylxs logo for buttons/poster
  208. 2002-01-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] nylxs logo for buttons/poster
  209. 2002-01-22 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  210. 2002-01-22 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  211. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free SOftware Institute Pages
  212. 2002-01-22 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I'm Back
  213. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  214. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] transition to Linux
  215. 2002-01-23 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  216. 2002-01-23 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  217. 2002-01-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Which version of Windows should I upgrade to? [scott-at-granneman.com]
  218. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  219. 2002-01-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  220. 2002-01-24 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Install Help
  221. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Photo Id's
  222. 2002-01-24 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  223. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  224. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  225. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  226. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  227. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  228. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  229. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  230. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  231. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  232. 2002-01-24 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institue Write-Up (plain-text)
  233. 2002-01-24 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute Write-Up (HTML)
  234. 2002-01-24 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute Write-Up (HTML)
  235. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Help
  236. 2002-01-24 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] linux one
  237. 2002-01-24 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] linux one
  238. 2002-01-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Photo Id's
  239. 2002-01-25 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  240. 2002-01-25 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  241. 2002-01-25 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Install Help
  242. 2002-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OPENSSH trouble
  243. 2002-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OPENSSH trouble
  244. 2002-01-26 Alex Pilosov <alex-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Photo Id's
  245. 2002-01-26 Alex Pilosov <alex-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] Photo Id's
  246. 2002-01-26 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Perl training
  247. 2002-01-26 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Perl training
  248. 2002-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Suggestions for SSL Certificate Authorities [wwwac-at-underwood.electricmindcontrol.net]
  249. 2002-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Suggestions for SSL Certificate Authorities [wwwac-at-underwood.electricmindcontrol.net]
  250. 2002-01-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Perl training
  251. 2002-01-27 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> RE: [hangout] Brooklyn Boro Hall Needs to get Wired
  252. 2002-01-27 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> RE: [hangout] Brooklyn Boro Hall Needs to get Wired
  253. 2002-01-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: How to bid govt contracts 101 :)
  254. 2002-01-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: How to bid govt contracts 101 :)
  255. 2002-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Suggestions for SSL Certificate Authorities [wwwac-at-underwood.electricmindcontrol.net]
  256. 2002-01-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Photo Id's
  257. 2002-01-27 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] what the L
  258. 2002-01-27 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] what the L
  259. 2002-01-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn Boro Hall Needs to get Wired
  260. 2002-01-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Brooklyn Boro Hall Needs to get Wired
  261. 2002-01-27 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Dmitry is free but Jon Johansen has been indicted. New York City
  262. 2002-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: How to bid govt contracts 101 :) [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  263. 2002-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: How to bid govt contracts 101 :) [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  264. 2002-01-27 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] kernal panic
  265. 2002-01-27 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [hangout] what the L
  266. 2002-01-27 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [hangout] what the L
  267. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Writeups Revisited
  268. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux World Writeups Revisited
  269. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  270. 2002-01-28 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  271. 2002-01-28 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  272. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hosting Linuxworld
  273. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hosting Linuxworld
  274. 2002-01-28 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Linux World Writeups Revisited
  275. 2002-01-28 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] linuxworld flyer
  276. 2002-01-28 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] linuxworld flyer
  277. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  278. 2002-01-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  279. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware for Class
  280. 2002-01-29 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  281. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  282. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  283. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  284. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  285. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  286. 2002-01-29 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  287. 2002-01-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Regarding your NYLXS training program
  288. 2002-01-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] From the floor of the Expo...
  289. 2002-01-29 From: "News" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Hardware for Class
  290. 2002-01-29 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Specs for NYLXS class computer
  291. 2002-01-30 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linux 1 flyer
  292. 2002-01-30 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Booth Coverage
  293. 2002-01-30 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Booth Coverage
  294. 2002-01-30 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux 1 flyer
  295. 2002-01-30 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] MOGLEN at LWE (fwd)

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