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DATE 2002-01-05
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] Berkly to close down internet if given a chance
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This is an article with underlines the importance of Fair Use today and outlines
just how aweful are the results when Universities (ALL of which are funded by
the Government) use their results and reseach to undermine their mission
and privatize their research. Berkly says straight out that they would close
the interent down if given the chance.


Ruben

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/01/04/university_open_source/print.html


Public money, private code
The drive to license academic research for profit is stifling the spread of software that could be of universal benefit.

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By Jeffrey Benner

Jan. 4, 2002 | Would the creation of the Internet be allowed to happen today?

The networked society we live in is in large part a gift from the University of California to the world. In the 1980s, computer scientists at Berkeley working under contract for the Defense Department created an improved version of the Unix operating system, complete with a networking protocol called the TCP/IP stack. Available for a nominal fee, the operating system and network protocol grew popular with universities and became the standard for the military's Arpanet computer network. In 1992, Berkeley released its version of Unix and TCP/IP to the public as open-source code, and the combination quickly became the backbone of a network so vast that people started to call it, simply, "the Internet."

Many would regard giving the Internet to the world as a benevolent act fitting for one of the world's great public universities. But Bill Hoskins, who is currently in charge of protecting the intellectual property produced at U.C. Berkeley, thinks it must have been a mistake. "Whoever released the code for the Internet probably didn't understand what they were doing," he says.

Had his predecessors understood how huge the Internet would turn out to be, Hoskins figures, they would surely have licensed the protocols, sold the rights to a corporation and collected a royalty for the U.C. Regents on Internet usage years into the future. It is the kind of deal his department, the Office of Technology Licensing, cuts all the time.

Hoskins' "privatize it" attitude has become the norm among administrators at many universities and federal labs across the country. As a result, computer-science professors and researchers who want to release their work to the public as open-source software often face an uphill battle.

Some familiar with the situation say the problem is that universities and federal research labs have become more interested in making money than serving the public interest.

Larry Smarr, a professor of computer science at U.C. San Diego and one of the country's top experts on supercomputing, is one of them. As former director of the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where the original Mosaic Web browser was created, he's quite familiar with both sides of the debate.

"Some universities are dead set against giving [software code] away," says Smarr. "But I don't think universities should be in the moneymaking business. They ought to be in the changing-the-world business, and open source is a great vehicle for changing the world."

Open-source software describes program code that is made publicly available for anyone to copy, change or even sell. The best-known open-source programs, such as Linux and Apache, are the product of a collaborative process of software development that takes advantage of the contributions of thousands of programmers all over the world. It's not only a cheap way to produce software; with so many eyes looking at the code, the theory is, bugs are found and fixed more quickly than with proprietary software.

Over the past several years, open-source software development has won high-profile adherents in the business world -- including the likes of IBM and Sun Microsystems. But it has always had its strongest fans in the academic world, where open-source software is seen as a natural extension of the idea that the fruits of academic research should be shared with everyone.

But now some academic programmers on the cutting edge have found that the licensing office is proving a more formidable obstacle to progress than the limits of their imagination and skill.

Pete Beckman, formerly a senior computer scientist at the federal laboratory in Los Alamos, N.M., is a pioneer in creating clusters of servers that rival the power of mainframe supercomputers. He had to fight with lab lawyers for months before receiving permission to open-source his department's work on the clusters.

Part of the lab's reticence was concern about letting computer technology fall into the hands of America's enemies, according to Beckman. "But the lab's other motive for keeping technology private is the misguided belief they can license it and make money on the lab system," he says. "They have whole departments dedicated to extracting intellectual property from the labbies."

Before Beckman led the fight at Los Alamos to establish a protocol for making lab software public, "the only way to get your code released [open source] was to declare it worthless," he says. Beckman won his fight back in 1999, but the old standard still applies at other federal labs.

"Some federal labs can release code, others can't," Beckman says. "There are whole departments that create valuable new technology, and they can't get it out to the world because [the lab] is trying to make money off it." Software for modeling global climate change, the behavior of viral epidemics and traffic patterns are among the programs researchers can't get released, he says.

In a white paper Beckman authored on the problem, he wrote, "Seeking to control computer-science research by putting intellectual property concerns before the goal of good science has destroyed countless projects."

Just how many is hard to say. Most researchers are reluctant to criticize their administrators. It is rare that universities flat out refuse a request to release software, but the hassle of getting permission can discourage those who might otherwise release their work. "It's tricky to find examples," says Rebecca Eisenberg, a law professor at the University of Michigan who specializes in intellectual property policy. "Because most technology fails, it's hard to say something would have succeeded" if only it had been put in the public domain.

Nevertheless, Eisenberg is convinced that university interest in licensing intellectual property for profit is often at odds with the advancement of science. "You can make a clear case that research is being slowed by intellectual property claims," she says.

"Universities aren't distinguishing between times when it's important to have a patent in place to get something disseminated and times when it's not," Eisenberg says. "They're just looking to see if they can make money. It retards innovation and taxes development."

It took Chris Johnson, a computer-science professor at the University of Utah, several years of negotiation with his technology transfer office to get permission to make public a program his team had worked on for years.

Called SCIRun (pronounced "ski run"), the program is a software platform for modeling and solving all sorts of complicated scientific problems. One of its most promising applications is as a tool for designing new medical devices. Because it is a foundation upon which other programs can be built, Johnson felt that making it an open-source-code project was fundamental to its value.

"The hope is people will take this and put in their own applications and share those back with the community," Johnson says. But to do that, they have to be able to see and use the code without having to pay for it or get permission. "A lot of smart people out there can show you new and better ways for you, if they can see under the hood," Johnson says.

But when he tried to explain to the university administration that the best way to maximize the value of SCIRun was to give it away, he ran into a roadblock. "We wanted to open-source it," Johnson says. "But they said that would undermine its commercial value."

The negotiations began, a clash of differing cultures and interests. "No one really knew what we were doing at the beginning," Johnson says. "We didn't really understand intellectual property law, and they didn't really understand open source. The university just didn't want to let commercial value go. We're academics who wanted to push the envelope."

After two years of haggling, they reached a compromise. In March, the software was released under a license that allows academics free access to the code but reserves the right to royalties if the code makes its way into a commercial software product.

It hasn't always been this way. In the eighties, UC Berkeley was a pioneer in giving away software for the betterment of society. The rapid dissemination of "BSD Unix" allowed Internet-connected computers to speak the same language, helping to make our networked world possible.

But now the University of California is often mentioned as one of the institutions that have taken the craze for exclusive patents and licenses too far. "It changed in the late eighties and early nineties," says Susan Graham, a professor of computer science at Berkeley. She didn't remember there even being an Office of Technology Licensing back when the department gave away Unix and the Internet protocols.

If those innovations were discovered today, Graham worries they would end up in corporate hands. "I don't know whether they would let us release software like TCP/IP today," she says. "If they thought it had monetary value, they would want a revenue stream. There would be companies who could pay for it. I'm not sure we would have the same outcome [as in the past], and that's what concerns me."

The trend at universities toward trying to profit from intellectual property began with the passage of the Bayh-Dole Act in 1980. Bayh-Dole allows institutions doing research for the federal government -- mostly universities -- to own the intellectual property they produce, and sell the rights to private companies. Because most cutting-edge research at both public and private universities involves some federal funding, Bayh-Dole allows universities to lay claim to many of their faculty's inventions. The same rights were later extended to the federal research labs.

The philosophy behind Bayh-Dole is economic stimulation through privatization. When the law passed, the federal government held roughly 28,000 patents, but fewer than 5 percent of these were licensed to industry for development of commercial products, according to the Council on Government Relations, a lobbying group for research universities. By giving contractors a chance to sell the rights to technology developed in the course of publicly funded research, Congress hoped to spark an economic boom with taxpayer-funded technology.

Overall, the model has been a dramatic success. The transfer of technology from university labs into offices, factories and stores was fundamental to the growth of Silicon Valley and the success of the new economy. Since 1980, university inventions licensed to the private sector under Bayh-Dole have spawned over 2,200 new companies that generate about $30 billion in economic activity every year, according to the Association of University Technology Managers.

Statistics like these explain the enduring enthusiasm among most policy experts for privatizing the public's intellectual property. But a few eloquent dissenters have begun to argue that taking privatization of the nation's intellectual property too far could stifle innovation and suffocate economic growth.

The champion of this broad thesis is Stanford law professor Larry Lessig, who has just outlined this argument in a new book, "The Future of Ideas." Lessig worries that the proper balance between private intellectual property (Microsoft) and the public good (the Internet) has been lost, and our society is blindly moving toward too much private control over intellectual property. "The shift is not occurring with the idea of balance in mind," he wrote; "instead, the shift proceeds as if control were the only value."

The most powerful examples that privatizing technology does not always equal progress are public code like the Internet's and open-source software. They are cases of technology that derive their value from being public and free; fences kill them. "The open-source movement is an endorsement of the value of the public domain," Eisenberg says. "It's a striking counter-example to the bias of public policy: that the public domain dooms technology to obscurity."

The systemic bias toward privatization, which Bayh-Dole codified into law, has the scientists working on improved versions of the Internet worried.

"For the last 20 years, public money has backed proprietary systems software," says Rick Stevens, who is working on "grid computing" software at Argonne National Lab. "We're saying, stop putting public money there."

Ian Foster, another computer scientist working at Argonne, agrees. "I believe that in almost all cases, the interests of science and society alike are best served by free distribution of software produced in research labs and universities. Unfortunately, there are still institutions that place significant obstacles in the way of researchers who wish to follow this path. Agencies funding research could help things by making strong statements in favor of open source, so that this is the norm rather than the exception."

Some government agencies are starting to get the message. Open-source development for grid software and other supercomputing applications is getting some government funding. The Department of Energy, which runs Argonne, has been supporting open-source projects for years. In April, the National Security Agency announced it would help to make a version of the Linux-based operating system secure enough for the Defense Department to use.

Universities are starting to rediscover the value of open-sourcing software, too. Stanford, the institution at the hub of Silicon Valley, lets its faculty release software under a public license. "We pretty much go with what our faculty members want to do," says Kathy Ku, who heads the licensing office there. "We care about the academic mission more that the money."

Elsewhere, the struggle goes on. "It's trying to find a balance between the academic mission and commercialization," Johnson, the Utah professor, says. "This is a hot topic in universities right now, and everyone is really struggling with it. Some universities have really gone overboard. It's not going to be an easy thing to resolve."

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About the writer
Jeffrey Benner is a contributing writer at Wired News.

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  61. 2002-01-24 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institue Write-Up (plain-text)
  62. 2002-01-24 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute Write-Up (HTML)
  63. 2002-01-24 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute Write-Up (HTML)
  64. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Photo Id's
  65. 2002-01-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Photo Id's
  66. 2002-01-24 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Install Help
  67. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  68. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Install Help
  69. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  70. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  71. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  72. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  73. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  74. 2002-01-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  75. 2002-01-24 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  76. 2002-01-24 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] linux one
  77. 2002-01-24 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] linux one
  78. 2002-01-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] We Need Booth Volunteers
  79. 2002-01-23 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  80. 2002-01-23 Jon Bober <bober-at-acm.cs.nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  81. 2002-01-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Which version of Windows should I upgrade to? [scott-at-granneman.com]
  82. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  83. 2002-01-22 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  84. 2002-01-22 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Brochure Write-ups, Booth Volunteers, etc
  85. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I'm Back
  86. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] transition to Linux
  87. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] I'm Back
  88. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] nylxs logo for buttons/poster
  89. 2002-01-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] nylxs logo for buttons/poster
  90. 2002-01-22 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I'm Back
  91. 2002-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free SOftware Institute Pages
  92. 2002-01-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  93. 2002-01-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  94. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  95. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  96. 2002-01-22 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] New blurb for Linux 1
  97. 2002-01-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Expo Booths signup for NYLXS/LXNY/NYLUG
  98. 2002-01-21 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] Expo Booths signup for NYLXS/LXNY/NYLUG
  99. 2002-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Wednesday 23 January 2002 NYLUG: Simon Lok on Email Privacy and Key Signing
  100. 2002-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fair Use Meeting
  101. 2002-01-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Jobs Info
  102. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure (HTML)
  103. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure (HTML)
  104. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure
  105. 2002-01-20 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] FSI - brochure
  106. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux One Class Clarification
  107. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Educating the Feds about Free Software
  108. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educating the Feds about Free Software
  109. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educating the Feds about Free Software
  110. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast Success
  111. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfeast Success
  112. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] New Teaching Space is opening for us
  113. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Teaching Space is opening for us
  114. 2002-01-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Teaching Space is opening for us
  115. 2002-01-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Lost RAM and Printer Port
  116. 2002-01-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Lost RAM and Printer Port
  117. 2002-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  118. 2002-01-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  119. 2002-01-17 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  120. 2002-01-16 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: Typo in last Re: [hangout] ssh
  121. 2002-01-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] No Source Code Changes?
  122. 2002-01-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lobbying Writeup of Linux World
  123. 2002-01-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL
  124. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] SECURITY WIRE DIGEST, VOL. 4, NO. 3, JANUARY 14, 2002 [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  125. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Fwd: Re: [hangout] SECURITY WIRE DIGEST, VOL. 4, NO. 3, JANUARY 14, 2002 [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  126. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SECURITY WIRE DIGEST, VOL. 4, NO. 3, JANUARY 14, 2002
  127. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] know site to list programming job? know programmer?
  128. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InService Announcement
  129. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] InService Announcement
  130. 2002-01-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  131. 2002-01-13 From: "Salvatore Denaro" <sdenaro-at-speakeasy.net> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  132. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM WANTS HELP FROM LINUX PROGRAMMERS
  133. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IBM WANTS HELP FROM LINUX PROGRAMMERS
  134. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  135. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  136. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  137. 2002-01-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: LinuxWorld in New York
  138. 2002-01-12 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Palm Datebook
  139. 2002-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: perl classes [frallon-at-yahoo.com]
  140. 2002-01-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: perl classes [frallon-at-yahoo.com]
  141. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  142. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  143. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  144. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  145. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Quote for Linux Class [jhelf-at-aa.acinc.com]
  146. 2002-01-11 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Subject: [hangout] Tunney Act Ending
  147. 2002-01-11 From: "Brendan W. McAdams" <rit-at-jacked-in.org> Subject: [hangout] Tunney Act Ending
  148. 2002-01-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Desktop Publisher
  149. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What's wrong with Yahoo
  150. 2002-01-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] What's wrong with Yahoo
  151. 2002-01-11 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] LinuxWorld Expo: General info
  152. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] FreeDevelopers.net [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  153. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse-discuss] FreeDevelopers.net [seth.johnson-at-RealMeasures.dyndns.org]
  154. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Resources
  155. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Job Training Expenses - Paid for by the City of NY
  156. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCHOOLFORGE COALITION FORMED TO ADVANCE OPEN RESOURCES IN EDUCATION
  157. 2002-01-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SCHOOLFORGE COALITION FORMED TO ADVANCE OPEN RESOURCES IN EDUCATION
  158. 2002-01-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] SCHOOLFORGE COALITION FORMED TO ADVANCE OPEN RESOURCES IN EDUCATION
  159. 2002-01-10 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] New to the World
  160. 2002-01-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] booth sign up list
  161. 2002-01-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] booth sign up list
  162. 2002-01-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Testimonials for the NYLXS JOURNAL
  163. 2002-01-09 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Testimonials for the NYLXS JOURNAL
  164. 2002-01-09 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Fwd: [nylug-talk] New To The World
  165. 2002-01-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] thelinuxshow.com
  166. 2002-01-08 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] thelinuxshow.com
  167. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Emperor Linux
  168. 2002-01-08 Alex Pilosov <alex-at-pilosoft.com> Re: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  169. 2002-01-08 Rubn Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Consultants
  170. 2002-01-08 Rubn Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Consultants
  171. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Public relations Comittee
  172. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Public relations Comittee
  173. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYACC [barry-at-weiser.net]
  174. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: NYACC [barry-at-weiser.net]
  175. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Emperor Linux
  176. 2002-01-08 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  177. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  178. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  179. 2002-01-08 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] ssl info questions...
  180. 2002-01-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] to education committee FYI
  181. 2002-01-08 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] to education committee FYI
  182. 2002-01-08 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] to education committee FYI
  183. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software Institute - Last Meeting, where we st and.
  184. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  185. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  186. 2002-01-07 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  187. 2002-01-07 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Free Software Institute - Last Meeting, where we st
  188. 2002-01-07 Paul =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rodr=EDguez?= <sangrelinux-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institute - Last Meeting, where we stand.
  189. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee - EXPO
  190. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In Service Tonite
  191. 2002-01-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] In Service Tonite
  192. 2002-01-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] hardware vendor
  193. 2002-01-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] hardware vendor
  194. 2002-01-06 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  195. 2002-01-05 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  196. 2002-01-05 From: "Alan Wiess" <bandie-at-linuxfreemail.com> RE: [hangout] WTC Update
  197. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  198. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  199. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Time to kill? Help a UN site for kids...
  200. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Events Page
  201. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Time to kill? Help a UN site for kids...
  202. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [wwwac] Time to kill? Help a UN site for kids...
  203. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Berkly to close down internet if given a chance
  204. 2002-01-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Berkly to close down internet if given a chance
  205. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  206. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  207. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  208. 2002-01-05 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  209. 2002-01-05 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Charlie Rose interviews Lawrence Lessig
  210. 2002-01-05 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Charlie Rose interviews Lawrence Lessig
  211. 2002-01-04 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  212. 2002-01-04 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  213. 2002-01-04 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  214. 2002-01-04 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  215. 2002-01-04 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] toshiba tecra
  216. 2002-01-04 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Audio InService
  217. 2002-01-04 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Audio InService
  218. 2002-01-04 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Audio InService
  219. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Audio InService
  220. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Audio InService
  221. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hardware vendor
  222. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] hardware vendor
  223. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  224. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  225. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  226. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  227. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  228. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  229. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  230. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  231. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  232. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  233. 2002-01-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS JOURNAL ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING
  234. 2002-01-04 Vagn Scott <vagn-at-ranok.com> Re: [hangout] WTC Update
  235. 2002-01-03 Kevin Mark <kmark-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Computerworld newletter Joke?
  236. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  237. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  238. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction
  239. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software News
  240. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Software News
  241. 2002-01-02 Peter Lehrer <pl-at-eskimo.com> Subject: [hangout] getting off hangout email list
  242. 2002-01-02 From: "joseph maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction
  243. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] GNUCHESS
  244. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] GNUCHESS
  245. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  246. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  247. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  248. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  249. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  250. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  251. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  252. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  253. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  254. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  255. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  256. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  257. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  258. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  259. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  260. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  261. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  262. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  263. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  264. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [nylxs-announce] Fwd: Re: [hangout] First Public Relations
  265. 2002-01-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  266. 2002-01-02 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  267. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [nylxs-announce] Fwd: Re: [hangout] First Public Relations
  268. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  269. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  270. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  271. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  272. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  273. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  274. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  275. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  276. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  277. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  278. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  279. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  280. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  281. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] First Public Relations Committee
  282. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  283. 2002-01-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Installfest
  284. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  285. 2002-01-02 From: <joeg-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Installfest
  286. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  287. 2002-01-02 From: <mconti-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Introduction to Free Software for Schools
  288. 2002-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Core Perl is out - Reuven Lerner ]
  289. 2002-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS WebSite
  290. 2002-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Comments requested
  291. 2002-01-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Comments requested
  292. 2002-01-04 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WTC Update
  293. 2002-01-04 Brooklyn Linux Solutions CEO <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] WTC Update
  294. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fax from Widows
  295. 2002-01-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fax from Widows

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