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| DATE | 2003-04-25 |
| FROM | Michael Richardson
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| SUBJECT | RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Apr 25 10:00:37 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3PE0b77018629 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:00:37 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h3PE0bkr018628 for hangout-desteny; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:00:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from nycsv1.abc.state.ny.us ([12.152.250.216]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3PE0a77018621 for ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:00:36 -0400 Received: by NYCSV1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:58:56 -0400 Message-ID: <069D219A1FFED611983300A0C9A02A560176C2-at-NYCSV1> From: Michael Richardson To: "'Joe Villari'" , Ruben Safir Cc: Marco Scoffier , hangout Subject: RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:58:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Michael Richardson List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 000003d6-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 11835 Status: RO Content-Length: 2998 Lines: 87
Thanks Joe. I like the flyer.
-----Original Message----- From: Joe Villari [mailto:joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:12 AM To: Ruben Safir Cc: Marco Scoffier; hangout; MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us Subject: Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
OO is a word processing program NOT a page layout one. Although it is useful for doing generic flyers, letters, papers and manuscripts; if you show them to a graphic artist, production artist or designer there reaction would all be the same, "Done In Word."
I didn't see anything done for the expo but I'm guessing it was the usual sub-standard, quality that OO, Word, Corel, etc produce.
I tried doing this in Scribus but for some stupid reason it would not print the logo. So I recreated it in Illustrator and it printed fine but you needed to have a white background in the picture box which lead to other design problems. Plus Scribus doesn't have, at least anywhere that I could see, a spell check; which was needed. You could not control and flow text, graphics and elements the way I did in OO easily. After trying for many hours it was just a plain waste of time when I did what needed doing in about an hour.
Sorry to say that quality graphic design is still not supported well enough by Free Software to be of any real value. I also feel that if NYLXS wants to be considered a true professional organization we need to produce literature that reflects this. After all, are you going to fork over your hard earned $$$ to someone who's promotional material looks like his kid did it.
Believe me, if I could get the results from Srcibus, GIMP and a vector drawing program that I need; I'm there. I've been searching for this for 5 years and it's just not there yet.
Joe
Ruben Safir wrote: > We've done a dozen flyers with the OO word processor. > > I'm interested in knowing how this flyer was harder to do than say > the 8 we did for Linux Expo? > > > Ruben > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 07:47:37PM -0400, Joe Villari wrote: > >>I put two files in the nylxs.com/docs folder named kings_flyer.ps and >>kings_flyer.pdf. Yes this is the flyer. >> >>Now for the rest of the news; I had to do it using non-free non-open >>source software. I spent 5 hours with OO and Scribus and could not get >>anything I liked or wanted. I was able to bang it out in 1 hour using >>Quark and Illustrator. >> >>Sorry but there as just too many limitations in OO and Scribus is just >>not there yet. >> >>Joe >> >>____________________________ >>NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene >>Fair Use - >>because it's either fair use or useless.... >>NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > >
____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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