|SUBJECT ||Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
On Friday 25 April 2003 00:37, Marco Scoffier wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 08:27:33PM -0400, vin wrote:
> > While NYLXS may not have the piece of paper that says it is a non-profit,
> > and therefore donations are tax-deductible, it might be worth mentioning
> > this to the graphic design company.
> Yes I told them.
> I haven't had alot of contact just an email confirming what Jonathan had
> told me.
> $15 is what the liquidator would have paid.
> (how do we get in on that business ?)
1. You find storage space where you can store dozens of container loads of
computers and office furniture prior to auction, at an affordable price.
Don't forget to deduct the storage costs, and all of the other overhead
mentioned below from the selling price. And don't forget throwing out all
the chairs whose gas has leaked past the seal while in storage. And the
broken plastic wheels while moving them. And all the other damage to the
furniture while moving.
2. You hire a work force that is unionized, because you have to be unionized
or you can't get into some buildings in NYC. And if you do get in to others,
you'll have problems with the elevator union.
3. You buy the moving vans/trucks at $40,000-$60,000 a piece, and get the
relevant truck insurance.
4. You get the workman's comp with the required deposit running around
$20,000-$40,000 or so if you are careful and have some experience with the
1,000 lb gorilla, the State Insurance Fund.
5. You get the $2,000,000 or better liability policy the publicly traded
6. You find an environmental waste disposer that will pick up the faulty
monitors that contain 5 lbs of lead and other toxins, and other toxin laden
computer parts that you can't sell. Be prepared to become his bitch, because
once you do business with one, that will be the only one for the rest of your
company's existence, and your rate will climb at a faster rate than health
insurance rates are climbing.
7. You hire a good auctioneer, who you'll need to sell everything, or sell
whatever you can't sell using other methods.
8. You design the web page for selling/advertising the merchandise.
9. You figure out how/who to contact for as many businesses as possible so
they know what you have available. No home calls unless you buy the NYS do
not call list for $500.00. No spam email contacts. No junk faxes for
10. You find a place to park the moving vans at night. Last I remember, the
rate was $250 per month per van, if you're lucky.
11. You find a good truck mechanic that will only steal you half blind
instead of completely blind. And if he really is only stealing you half
blind, and is a heavy truck mechanic, send me his number. I know a few
trucking companies that could use him.
12. Get the tip money ready for the elevator guys. Plan on $100.00 or better
per shift per elevator, or your elevator will develop "problems". And if its
just an hour? Still a $100.00 or more for the elevator guy. You might get
away with less if its less than a truckload and can be moved fast, but don't
plan on being back in that building while the same elevator guy is still
working there in his lifetime.
13. Lets not forget the elevator "rental" from management. At small (under
25 floors) I've seen $95 per hour, and $400 per hour, and everything in
13b. You did remember to take care of the local 3 electricians for the large
companies, right? You are aware that it takes a local 3 electrician to
disconnect the computer in those buildings, right? To disconnect the copy
machine. The printer. The water cooler. The desk lamps. The...right? You
are aware of local 3 rates, right? And local 3 tipping requirements, right?
If you're smart, you'll have the company do as much as possible prior to you
getting there, but once you get there, the hats will still be out. And last
I saw, the cost to physically remove the computer from the desk to the
loading dock exceeded $50.00 each. If I remember correctly, it far exceeds
that. You should be able to google it and find the real world rates on this.
14. Get ready to pay your union guys for displaying the items for the
auctions, then moving the sold items to the loading dock for pickup, and
moving the items back to storage that don't sell, and moving the garbage to
the garbage container.
15. Let's not forget the union health benefits, annuity, pension, no shows,
delegates, and the gimps the union will be sending you for labor because you
haven't started greasing their wheels yet. And because the others have been
at it longer, and have been greasing the wheels longer. A good rule of thumb
is 3x wages is your overall hourly labor cost.
16. Don't forget the shop steward who's going to sit in your office and make
an occasional appointment for pickups in between his coffees and doughnuts
and lunches and smoke breaks and check cashing breaks and union business
calls and trips to pick up the payroll checks from your payroll service
Ohhh, did you mean just yourself in one truck? Then forget every major
business in the metropolitan area. And throw in the elevator/union problems,
at an increased level.
Play lotto. You have better odds of making it.
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