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SuitWatch--April 24th

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"The New Advertising Business"

Thursday, April 24, 2003--My journalistic career arc bridges a long
interim during which I helped build one of the leading advertising
agencies in Silicon Valley. I risk violating my reputation:
http://www.cluetrain.com as a scourge of marketing when I admit I had
a fun time in the ad biz, but it's true--I did. Hodskins, Simone &
Searls was a great little agency, and we did a darn good job,
considering the fact that doing creative work for technology clients
is generally an oxymoronic undertaking.

Unless they happen to be Apple or funded by too much VC money,
technology companies generally don't go for artsy advertising that
"creates impressions" and "builds a brand". They want to move goods.
They want their advertising to explain the features and benefits of
those goods and put their messages in front of the right potential
customers for the lowest possible cost. If your agency can do that and
be creative, fine. But the first priority is to drive sales.

The whole time I was in that business, I noticed how many problems
derived from a single ironic fact: our customers and our consumers
were different populations. This also was true for the media in which
we placed our advertising. The people who paid for the advertising
were not the same as the people who received it. Because readers,
viewers and listeners paid nothing for the advertising they consumed,
their direct influence on the advertising they consumed was about the
same. Between advertisers and consumers, advertising was not a way for
the twain to meet--that's what sales and promotion was for.

In fact, back in those days I also noticed that in corporate battles
between marketing and sales, marketing generally lost. If there was a
VP of Sales & Marketing, it almost always was somebody from sales.
That's because sales touched customers, and marketing did not.
Instead, it was marketing's job to be "strategic". Advertising was
always a strategy. To the tacticians in sales and the technologists in
engineering, advertising "strategy" tended to be a bit abstract and
annoying, because it seemed to happen in this vacuum where the company
and the customers rarely met.

Anyway, I found myself thinking back on the old days when I visited
Google on Tuesday and got some hang time with Richard Cooper, who runs
the Adwords program:
https://adwords.google.com/ there. I had wanted to talk with somebody
involved in Google's advertising effort, because it seemed to me that
effort was threatening to alter the whole advertising business. That
would be quite a switch from what happened in the dot-com era, when
traditional advertising thought was given countless billions of
dollars to spend on capturing eyeballs and other annoying ideas that
stayed current as long as they continued to float on too much money.

What we might have here, I also thought, is a good example of how
Linux lowers the threshold of market disruption for companies that
take advantage of Linux's extreme technical economies.

When you look at a Google results page (try "fly fishing"), you'll
notice two kinds of advertising: sponsored links above the listed
results and a stack of boxed items on the right that look like
classified ads. Richard Cooper explains how it works behind the
scenes:

The premise behind the ads on the right side, Adwords, is an
auction model. People bid on placement based on keywords. They set
the maximum cost per click (CPC) they're willing to pay. In effect,
they set their true reservation price: the maximum they're willing
to pay. They pay no more than slightly above the next lowest
competitor, so there's no winner's curse where you outbid everybody
by an extreme margin. This creates a competitive marketplace where
advertisers bid on leads generated for them by search results.

We take a relevancy factor into account. We rank the ad, based on
the click-through rate. So a lower-bid ad with a higher
click-through rate will be ranked, placed, higher in the list of
results.

In other words, users' click-through history is what makes a given
finding more valuable. Richard continues, "The advertiser likes it
because they get a benefit (they don't pay as much to be shown as
high), the consumer likes it because they're seeing high quality ads,
and we like it because both parties like it and there's a virtual
cycle of reinforcement."

"Will they sell AdWord positions?" I wondered.

Richard answered, "We don't promise position, because we're focused on
utility to the user. That quality is critical to us."

It's interesting to see how Google's advertising offerings have
evolved. They started with a traditional CPM (cost-per-thousand)
model, then shifted to a CPC (cost-per-click) model a little over a
year ago. Then they started syndicating their advertising. Earthlink,
AOL and AskJeeves are three customers. It's interesting that AskJeeves
is a search engine competitor and an advertising partner.

Last month Google added Content Targeting, which puts text ads in
banner spaces, replacing graphical annoyances with text-based
relevancies. One good thing about this model is it gives sites a
monetization model where there was none before. Richard explains, "A
lot of independent content on the Web kind of died simply because
there wasn't a monetization model behind it. We're able to help people
to monetize, from a publishing model, content that wasn't monetizable
before."

Content Targeting is what produces text ads in the banners of BlogSpot
sites. I have one friend, who recently decided not to upgrade to the
ad-free Pro version of Blogger (which Google owns, by the way),
because she liked the advertising in her banner. That means Google has
achieved, at least in her case, something of a holy grail: advertising
people actually want rather than endure.

Today, Google has more than 100,000 advertisers and claims to be the
"largest pay per performance search marketing program". Google doesn't
publish its financial results. Overture:
http://overture.com, however, does. Overture is a public company and a
competitor of Google's in the on-line advertising business. Overture's
revenue was $200 million last quarter. Their cost of goods sold was $2
million, for a gross profit margin of 99%. They're doubling in size
every year. They now own two competing search engines: Altavista and
FAST:
http://www.alltheweb.com. They run their own site on Solaris, so think
how much more they could clear if they ran on Linux. (Some context:
the Google folks told me they run on a virtually countless number of
mostly second-tier, nonbranded, old-generation hardware. Pentium IIIs,
to be precise.)

So what's happening here? Simply put, companies like Google and
Overture are blowing away everything the old advertising business
holds dear. Beautiful images. Attention-grabbing graphics. Awards.
Strategy. Even old conventions like branding--a term Procter & Gamble
borrowed from the cattle industry, back when they created mass media
advertising in the dawn of commercial radio more than 70 years ago.
They're blowing it away by connecting users and advertisers and
helping both offer something valuable to each other.

Obviously, you can't export Google's type of on-line advertising to
print, television and radio. But you can export the value system, and
that's exactly what's bound to happen, among both advertisers and
users. When it does--as it inevitably will--we'll watch the end of
advertising as we knew it.

Kind of like we see happening with operating systems.

--
Doc Searls:
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  85. 2003-04-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  86. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  87. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD - U.S. military helps fund Calgary hacker
  88. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD - U.S. military helps fund Calgary hacker
  89. 2003-04-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenBSD - U.S. military helps fund Calgary hacker
  90. 2003-04-06 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] yahoo messenger
  91. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  92. 2003-04-06 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  93. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Study Group
  94. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  95. 2003-04-06 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  96. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] More Economic of Copyright: Row Row Row Your boat
  97. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Economic of Copyright: Row Row Row Your boat
  98. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Greenspan on Copyright
  99. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Greenspan on Copyright
  100. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I need a favor:
  101. 2003-04-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New NYLXS Classroom Space, and Full Time Internet Cafe?
  102. 2003-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] Sueing Students:RIAA]
  103. 2003-04-05 phantom21-at-mindspring.com Subject: [hangout] Where to find Linux Format
  104. 2003-04-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh - This is wonderful- Mr Wynkoop is crawling the system again
  105. 2003-04-04 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] perl script
  106. 2003-04-04 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] for all you ogg folks
  107. 2003-04-04 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS education committee
  108. 2003-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  109. 2003-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  110. 2003-04-03 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  111. 2003-04-03 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  112. 2003-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  113. 2003-04-03 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  114. 2003-04-02 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] [marco-at-nylxs.com: First meeting of the new government]
  115. 2003-04-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] [marco-at-nylxs.com: First meeting of the new governme nt]
  116. 2003-04-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [marco-at-nylxs.com: First meeting of the new government]
  117. 2003-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] War is in question
  118. 2003-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Government Contracts
  119. 2003-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Google Ratings
  120. 2003-04-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Anyone in town now?
  121. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anyone in town now?
  122. 2003-04-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Graphics in the Consule
  123. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Graphics in the Consule
  124. 2003-04-01 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Macro steps down
  125. 2003-04-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] FYI
  126. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Meeting recap from last night
  127. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Testimony
  128. 2003-04-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] General Member Meeting - R&M
  129. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Iraq and Anti-Semitism
  130. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  131. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [niielpxbkv-tgfaidlhpt-at-eJlIBpa.com: Microsoft Security Update]
  132. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  133. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Happy Birthday
  134. 2003-04-01 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  135. 2003-04-01 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Birthday
  136. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Enum Columns
  137. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79911,00.html
  138. 2003-04-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  139. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  140. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  141. 2003-04-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  142. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  143. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  144. 2003-04-01 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  145. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: sendmail (SuSE-SA:2003:023)]
  146. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installed new
  147. 2003-04-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  148. 2003-04-01 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Windows to release code
  149. 2003-04-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] using linux in schools
  150. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS General Membership Meeting
  151. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Wrist hurts
  152. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] My Wrist hurts
  153. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Joe MAffia's Article
  154. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] My Wrist hurts
  155. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  156. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  157. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  158. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] First Pass on a new article for the Journal
  159. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  160. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  161. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] First Pass on a new article for the Journal
  162. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Resource for Education Initiatives
  163. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] request for services: web site/hosting
  164. 2003-04-30 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] request for services: web site/hosting
  165. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Demo possibility
  166. 2003-04-30 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Subject: [hangout] FTC Spam Forum
  167. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Board Proposal
  168. 2003-04-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Draft
  169. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linux education
  170. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] Draft
  171. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse] May Second Washington DC [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  172. 2003-04-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Draft
  173. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Draft
  174. 2003-04-29 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Draft
  175. 2003-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Draft
  176. 2003-04-29 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Draft
  177. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] flyers
  178. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Test Email
  179. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Test Email
  180. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Test Email
  181. 2003-04-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Test Email
  182. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Schedule
  183. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] RE: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  184. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: help with journal
  185. 2003-04-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  186. 2003-04-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Tech swap meet / flea market in new york?]
  187. 2003-04-29 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  188. 2003-04-28 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Joseph Maffia: Hooked on Linux
  189. 2003-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers?
  190. 2003-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 19 Monitors
  191. 2003-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  192. 2003-04-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show ?
  193. 2003-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Monitors?
  194. 2003-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show ?
  195. 2003-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educating HS Students
  196. 2003-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show tonight?
  197. 2003-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Phone is up
  198. 2003-04-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  199. 2003-04-27 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  200. 2003-04-27 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Media Database
  201. 2003-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Phones are out
  202. 2003-04-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Media Database
  203. 2003-04-26 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] power cords
  204. 2003-04-25 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylug-talk] [From NY Fair Use Mailing List] Linus on DRM
  205. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Library
  206. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  207. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  208. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Publicity
  209. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  210. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  211. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  212. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ask-at-develooper.com: Re: [jobs-discuss] Rejecting because of salary
  213. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Legal Advise: NY Fair Use
  214. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institution: New 2 Week Daytime program
  215. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Hardware Recycle Initiative
  216. 2003-04-25 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY no call list.
  217. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS: Radio Show this week
  218. 2003-04-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS: Radio Show this week
  219. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  220. 2003-04-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  221. 2003-04-25 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  222. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  223. 2003-04-25 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  224. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly Installfests
  225. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Recycling Initiative
  226. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  227. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS: Radio Show this week
  228. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  229. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  230. 2003-04-24 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anyone disposing 14 or 15" broken monitors, save pedestals cords 4 NYLXS
  231. 2003-04-24 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  232. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  233. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Laywer - NY Fair Use
  234. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Classes announced on NewsForge...ummm
  235. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lost oppurtunities in our back yard
  236. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lost oppurtunities in our back yard
  237. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  238. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  239. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  240. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  241. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Censorship of FS advocates in the marketplace
  242. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Victem
  243. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  244. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  245. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  246. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  247. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  248. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  249. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  250. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  251. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  252. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  253. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  254. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  255. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Issues
  256. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  257. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  258. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  259. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus on DRM
  260. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus on DRM
  261. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  262. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  263. 2003-04-24 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Linus on DRM
  264. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Grepping body of message [multimedia-fan-at-myrealbox.com]
  265. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  266. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  267. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  268. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  269. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  270. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Re: [hangout] Fwd: Reminder to eligible training providers regarding new website
  271. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  272. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  273. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  274. 2003-04-24 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  275. 2003-04-24 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  276. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  277. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  278. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Reminder to eligible training providers regarding new website
  279. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Reminder to eligible training providers regarding new website [Christine.Steenburgh-at-Labor.State.Ny.Us]
  280. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  281. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  282. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [html-at-ssc.com: SuitWatch - April 24]
  283. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  284. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [krahmer-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: KDE (SuSE-SA:2003:026)]
  285. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  286. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  287. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  288. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  289. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  290. 2003-04-24 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] WindowsRefund.net - Toshiba update and request
  291. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  292. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  293. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  294. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  295. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  296. 2003-04-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  297. 2003-04-23 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] suse 8.2
  298. 2003-04-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] suse 8.2
  299. 2003-04-23 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Two HD
  300. 2003-04-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  301. 2003-04-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  302. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  303. 2003-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  304. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  305. 2003-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] April 28th Meeting for NY Fair Use: PLEASE ATTEND
  306. 2003-04-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] April 28th Meeting for NY Fair Use: PLEASE ATTEND
  307. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] April 28th Meeting for NY Fair Use: PLEASE ATTEND
  308. 2003-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Installation
  309. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] bank account
  310. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] space
  311. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight
  312. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell/Linux
  313. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tonight
  314. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Have Fun
  315. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight
  316. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Tonight
  317. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Monitors
  318. 2003-04-22 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Monitors
  319. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Monitors
  320. 2003-04-22 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Monitors
  321. 2003-04-22 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  322. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Copyright Office Accepting Comments About SoundExchange
  323. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Library
  324. 2003-04-22 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Office Accepting Comments About SoundExchange
  325. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Library
  326. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Library
  327. 2003-04-22 Jeremy Hogan <jhogan-at-redhat.com> Re: (fwd) Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  328. 2003-04-22 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  329. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Library
  330. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: classes?
  331. 2003-04-22 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: (fwd) Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  332. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: DMCA Testimony [1201-at-loc.gov]
  333. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  334. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  335. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  336. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Open House
  337. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Open House
  338. 2003-04-22 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  339. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  340. 2003-04-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  341. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  342. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  343. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  344. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  345. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  346. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  347. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  348. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Open House
  349. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  350. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  351. 2003-04-22 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  352. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  353. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  354. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  355. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  356. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  357. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  358. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  359. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  360. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  361. 2003-04-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  362. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  363. 2003-04-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House
  364. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Class Schedule
  365. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule
  366. 2003-04-21 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  367. 2003-04-21 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  368. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  369. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Galeon Troubles GLIBC
  370. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Possible Contract (Significant)] (fwd)
  371. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] JOB: Recruiter - HOT Pharmaceutical Advertising Agency - NJ - 4 openings] (fwd)
  372. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Possible Contract (Significant)] (fwd)
  373. 2003-04-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  374. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  375. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for Linux Journal
  376. 2003-04-21 Egan Orion <egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  377. 2003-04-21 Arron Rouse <arron.rouse-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  378. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  379. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  380. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  381. 2003-04-21 Egan Orion <egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  382. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  383. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Shared Secrets MS and Free Software
  384. 2003-04-21 Egan Orion <egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  385. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  386. 2003-04-21 From: "Mike Magee" <mike.magee-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] RE: Shared Secrets MS and Free Software
  387. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  388. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Shared Secrets MS and Free Software
  389. 2003-04-21 From: "Mike Magee" <mike.magee-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] RE: You are spreading disinformation
  390. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  391. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Galeon Troubles GLIBC
  392. 2003-04-21 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  393. 2003-04-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  394. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  395. 2003-04-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Troubles
  396. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  397. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Troubles
  398. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Troubles
  399. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  400. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  401. 2003-04-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR Meeting
  402. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  403. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  404. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  405. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  406. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  407. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jill-at-ssc.com: for Linux Journal]
  408. 2003-04-20 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Re: linux class?
  409. 2003-04-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] where one the server is the journal?
  410. 2003-04-17 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ms product activation causes millions of hours of lost productivity?
  411. 2003-04-17 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  412. 2003-04-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  413. 2003-04-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  414. 2003-04-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  415. 2003-04-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Subject: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  416. 2003-04-16 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  417. 2003-04-16 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  418. 2003-04-16 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Libarary Meeting
  419. 2003-04-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Libarary Meeting
  420. 2003-04-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  421. 2003-04-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  422. 2003-04-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] PR Meeting
  423. 2003-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] copyright website (fwd)
  424. 2003-04-14 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] copyright website (fwd)
  425. 2003-04-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Classes Canceled this week
  426. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Education Initiative Committee Report
  427. 2003-04-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] eprom burning
  428. 2003-04-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] eprom burning
  429. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] eprom burning
  430. 2003-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Educational meeting today
  431. 2003-04-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Educational meeting today
  432. 2003-04-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Educational meeting today
  433. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Glipse of the Future of Music
  434. 2003-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Juicey Target for NYACSH
  435. 2003-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  436. 2003-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Equiptment on NYLUG
  437. 2003-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  438. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] From The Linux Journal - Linux is ready for Enteprise Desktops
  439. 2003-04-11 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) HB 2892 (Oregon)
  440. 2003-04-11 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Article
  441. 2003-04-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  442. 2003-04-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Shock and Awe - Trademark by Sony
  443. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [linux-elitists] AOL says goodbye to AT&T/Comcast and residential mail spools
  444. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [linux-elitists] AOL says goodbye to AT&T/Comcast and residential mail spools [ajs-at-ajs.com]
  445. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Best of CrackMonkey
  446. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CrackMonkey Specials
  447. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam?
  448. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam?

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