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|SUBJECT ||Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:05:56 -0400
From: Ruben I Safir
To: Marco Scoffier
Cc: Ruben Safir , Ron Guerin , hangout
Subject: Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
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On 2003.04.23 14:04 Marco Scoffier wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 12:49:31PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > -- If we decide to change the name, change it.
> I didn't mean it like this.
> As far as the board is concerned we did decide.
> > After May 2nd
> Random date, so that there is more confusion, more events which make the
> name change more difficult. We already spoke of this around the egov-os
> > > -- If we decide to take them to court, do it.
> > We should, but that is one Board Vote.
> > > -- If we decide to up the antics, a Brett Wynnkoop and Jay
> > > Salzburger don't speak for NY Fairuse type of letter in responce to
> > > their postings, do it.
> > Yeah - 1 and 3 are definitely happening.
> I don't understand how 3 is definitely happening.
> 3 only makes sense as a corollary to 2.
> You don't fight for a name you have chosen to change.
> You don't fight just to fight, that is what is turning people away.
> Either you fight with a goal:
> 'We want the rights to NY Fairuse and we will do everything needed to
> get it'
> (not 'We want to smear brett and jay because they are jerks and we
> want the world to understand how badly we have been slighted')
> Or you decide:
> 'It's not worth the bickering, lets get on with business and do our
> work, let their reputation stand for itself, and let us focus on
> advancing ours'
> And issue a stament such as:
> 'NYLXS would have liked to take Brett and Jay to court, and fight for
> the rights to NY Fairuse which we believe they fraudulently wrested
> from our control. But NYLXS believes that this would put too much
> stress on our organisation, and would take our focus and the public's
> interest away from the important actions we are planning. So, we have
> decided to change the name of our subcommitee NY FAIRUSE to BLEH to
> end the confusion which has resulted from B&J's fraulduent actions and
> hopefully to put that unfortunate episode behind us.
> Please let it be known that:
> NYLXS is in no way affiliated with a renegade group calling itself
> NYFU (and NY Fairuse) which is in control of the www.fairuse.org
> domain. The group formerly known as NY FAIRUSE and headed by Ruben
> Safir the sole founder of the original NY FAIRUSE and blah and blah
> and blah is now known as BLEH and can be found at bleh.nylxs.com'
> This 'he said, she said' is interminable.
> 1 and 3 don't mix.
> NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
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> because it's either fair use or useless....
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