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| DATE | 2003-04-23 |
| FROM | Ruben I Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Apr 23 15:06:03 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3NJ6377013982 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:06:03 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h3NJ62OS013981 for hangout-desteny; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:06:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3NJ5u77013966; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:05:56 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h3NJ5u3C013965; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:05:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:05:56 -0400 From: Ruben I Safir To: Marco Scoffier Cc: Ruben Safir , Ron Guerin , hangout Subject: Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH Message-ID: <20030423150556.A13953-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20030423023110.A2889-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030423144128.GB7807-at-metm.org> <1051111310.15266.196135.camel-at-dante> <20030423164117.GE7807-at-metm.org> <20030423164931.GA12138-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20030423180434.GG7807-at-metm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In-Reply-To: <20030423180434.GG7807-at-metm.org>; from marco4linux-at-earthlink.net on Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 14:04:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.2.3 Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ruben I Safir List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 00000288-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 11996 Status: RO Content-Length: 3337 Lines: 82
I agree
On 2003.04.23 14:04 Marco Scoffier wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 12:49:31PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: > > > -- If we decide to change the name, change it. > I didn't mean it like this. > As far as the board is concerned we did decide. > > > > After May 2nd > > > Random date, so that there is more confusion, more events which make the > name change more difficult. We already spoke of this around the egov-os > action. > > > -- If we decide to take them to court, do it. > > We should, but that is one Board Vote. > > > > > > > -- If we decide to up the antics, a Brett Wynnkoop and Jay > > > Salzburger don't speak for NY Fairuse type of letter in responce to > > > their postings, do it. > > > > Yeah - 1 and 3 are definitely happening. > > I don't understand how 3 is definitely happening. > 3 only makes sense as a corollary to 2. > > You don't fight for a name you have chosen to change. > > You don't fight just to fight, that is what is turning people away. > > Either you fight with a goal: > 'We want the rights to NY Fairuse and we will do everything needed to > get it' > (not 'We want to smear brett and jay because they are jerks and we > want the world to understand how badly we have been slighted') > > Or you decide: > 'It's not worth the bickering, lets get on with business and do our > work, let their reputation stand for itself, and let us focus on > advancing ours' > > And issue a stament such as: > 'NYLXS would have liked to take Brett and Jay to court, and fight for > the rights to NY Fairuse which we believe they fraudulently wrested > from our control. But NYLXS believes that this would put too much > stress on our organisation, and would take our focus and the public's > interest away from the important actions we are planning. So, we have > decided to change the name of our subcommitee NY FAIRUSE to BLEH to > end the confusion which has resulted from B&J's fraulduent actions and > hopefully to put that unfortunate episode behind us. > Please let it be known that: > NYLXS is in no way affiliated with a renegade group calling itself > NYFU (and NY Fairuse) which is in control of the www.fairuse.org > domain. The group formerly known as NY FAIRUSE and headed by Ruben > Safir the sole founder of the original NY FAIRUSE and blah and blah > and blah is now known as BLEH and can be found at bleh.nylxs.com' > > This 'he said, she said' is interminable. > > 1 and 3 don't mix. > > > ____________________________ > NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene > Fair Use - > because it's either fair use or useless.... > NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc > -- __________________________ Brooklyn Linux Solutions __________________________ DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS http://fairuse.nylxs.com
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