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DATE 2003-04-12
FROM Ruben I Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [hangout] From The Linux Journal - Linux is ready for Enteprise Desktops

The Trade Show Floor: LinuxWorld Ireland 2003
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 by Paul Barry Printer Friendly Page
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Linux Community A mixed bag of messages at Ireland's premier Linux
conference.

Ireland is a small country. North and South, the population does not
exceed six million people. Paradoxically, when it comes to the IT
industry, Ireland is a big player. For years, Ireland's IT claim-to-fame
has been the fact that it is the second largest exporter of
shrink-wrapped software in the world (next to the US). There are a
number of reasons for this, but the main one is Ireland is the European
operations center for a large number of US-based companies. Microsoft,
Symantec, IBM/Lotus and many others have a large presence here. But,
it's not only software that's big; Intel has a chip fabrication facility
an hour west of Dublin. HP, Dell, Apple and Sun are large employers.
And, recently, Google announced that Ireland would host its European
headquarters.

LinuxWorld came to Ireland on April 3rd, 2003. Sponsored by IBM in
association with ILUG (the Irish Linux Users Group), the conference
never was going to be very big. It was scheduled to take place on the
last day of ICT Expo, Ireland's Information and Communications
Technology Event. The small number of Linux-specific stands at the show
were stuck in the middle of a mix of everything from data projector
companies to accounting software suppliers. Cyclades was there, as was
IBM, whose stand hosted ILUG. Red Hat boxes were everywhere, and ILUG
handed out Knoppix CDs to as many delegates as they could. An Irish
company, OpenApp, was on hand to discuss how it successfully is
delivering IT solutions to clients using primarily open-source
technologies.

The big draw (for me, anyway) was that John "maddog" Hall was scheduled
to give the keynote. In addition to kicking-off the conference with the
keynote, maddog spent as much time as he could at the ILUG stand,
fielding questions and helping out.

figure
Figure 1. Helping to spread the word: "maddog" at the ILUG stand (hosted
by IBM).

Seating was available in the conference hall for about 200 delegates,
and it was two-thirds full for "maddog". This was to be the largest
audience for any of the six talks on the day.

The keynote was entitled "Total Cost of Ownership...More than You
Think", and "maddog" highlighted the real cost of software. The mantra
was "no software is without cost", and TCO is not only about hardware,
software and services. "maddog" talked with some passion about
empowerment, the quality of solutions, the balance of payments, IT
quality, security, future cost and control. In doing so, we were treated
to a tour of the world, "maddog"-style. The discussion roamed to China,
Venezuela, India, Brazil and the US, with each case study showing
regular people leveraging the work of others to get their own work done,
all with open-source software. I initially tried to keep up with
"maddog" while taking some notes, but about ten minutes into the talk, I
decided to sit back and enjoy it. It was great.

It was not going to be easy to follow "maddog", and the task fell to the
unfortunate David Valentine of IBM. David is IBM's Linux Leader for
Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and he's a Sales and Marketing guy.
David was all blue-suit, traditional, conservative IBM. The audience was
more jeans and t-shirt than suit, and David pitched his talk at the
wrong level. If we had all been C-level people (CTO, CEO and CIO),
David's talk would have been great. Unfortunately--for all
concerned--the IBM talk was, well, boring. Even "maddog" had trouble
keeping his eyes open. Although David's message was that, as far as IBM
is concerned, Linux is ready for prime-time, the message got lost in a
blur of buzzwords, marketing speak and sales pitches for zSeries
systems. This, combined with David's decision to present to a Linux
conference using PowerPoint on Wintel, did nothing to endear IBM to the
audience. However, it must be said that it was great to see IBM
supporting Linux (and ILUG) in such a big way. It was just a shame they
presented in the way they did.

It was a jaded (and much depleted) audience that Ciaran McCabe of
OpenApp found himself in front of for his talk, which described Linux as
the "next big thing" for Irish businesses. Ciaran's message was, "Linux
is ready! What's keeping you?" He worked through a selection of
enterprise-ready applications in an effort to show that open-source
alternatives are available for a growing number of them. The likes of
ComPiere, Claroline and Kora were highlighted as case-studies.

A short lunch break allowed me to scout quickly around the rest of the
exhibitors. Novell was there, as was Dell. Eircom (one of Ireland's
largest telecoms providers) and Computer Associates each had a large
stand. Remarkably--and I went around twice in order to confirm
this--there was no Microsoft stand.

figure
Figure 2. The guys from Cyclades are committed to Linux, and they have
the neck-ties to prove it!

After lunch, it was Tony Redmond's, CTO of HP's Consulting and
Integration Division, turn to speak. His message said HP likes Linux but
thinks it is not ready for the Enterprise. In Tony's--and by
association, HP's--view, Linux suffers in five key areas: manageability,
support, change, perception and the desktop. The "change" complaint was
that Linux is changing too rapidly for big enterprises. Poor old,
conservative HP. Those Linux upstarts are upsetting their apple cart and
moving much too fast for them. Again, another PowerPoint/Wintel
combination did nothing but insult the by now much smaller Linux
audience. Of course, it may have been me, but Tony Redmond looked an
awful lot like a heavier-set Bill Gates. And, of course, there was that
unfortunate last name.

The contrast between Tony and the next speaker, Michael Meeks of Ximian,
could not have been more stark. Up bounded Michael, black backpack slung
over his shoulder; out popped his laptop running OpenOffice.org. He
plugged in, switched to the data projector and started talking. After
about 10 seconds and 100 words, Michael asked if he was talking too
fast. Not for an Irish audience--talking fast is a national past-time.
Michael walked, almost ran, from side to side of the stage, talking
about GNOME 2.2 and OpenOffice.org. He was infectious. He was wired. He
was high; not on drugs (he looked too healthy) and not on booze (he was
too coherent). Michael Meeks was high on freedom. The freedom to do what
you need to do with your software, when you want to do it. It was pure
entertainment, and the handful of delegates that hung around loved every
minute of it.

Michael rebuked most of what Tony Redmond had to say about Linux. He
also encouraged more developers to get involved with OpenOffice.org.
When asked what he thought of the likes of AbiWord, gnumeric and Kword,
Michael delivered a short, sharp, shock: "They may not know it yet, but
they're dead." This resulted in a loud groan about three wasted days of
effort from an audience member to my right. When Michael followed up
with "Are you a member of the gnumeric team?", the delegate replied that
he was just a guy with "too much free time on his hands". Michael
flashed a smile, pointed back to his slide on the large data projector
screen and said, "OpenOffice.org". They need more help from developers,
and they need help yesterday. Bribing the audience with Ximian t-shirts
and Beanie Monkeys was a master-stoke, although I suspect the questions
would have come up anyway.

The final speaker was James Cleere, Sun's StarOffice Engineering
Manager. Based in Dublin (where a lot of the StarOffice engineering is
occurring), James talked about the StarOffice/OpenOffice.org offerings.
In his view, the lack of a compatible, interoperable office suite is the
main reason for Linux's lack of penetration on the desktop. He believes,
as does Sun (and quite a few others, I suspect), that the latest
StarOffice/OpenOffice.org offering has the potential to change all that.
James presentation generated the most questions, despite being delivered
to the smallest audience of the day. As an engineering manager, he came
across as someone who would rather not be the center of attention, and
God love him, he nearly choked to death half way through his talk.
Despite this, his message was clear: StarOffice/OpenOffice.org is ready,
and Sun, together with their partners (such as Ximian), is committed to
the technology and its ongoing development.

In the end, the conference showed how far Linux has come. It is big
business now. Granted, IBM sees Linux as a mechanism for selling
zSeries, and HP sees it as a mechanism for selling services. Both kept
harping on about cost savings, the bottom line, profit and the like.
They obviously hadn't been listening to "maddog", as Linux is about so
much more. It's about empowerment, quality, security and control. Linux
is all about community.

Acknowledgment

A big thank-you to "maddog" for kindly providing me with a selection of
pictures from the show to include with this report. Upon browsing the
pictures, I came across this one, which may hint at his real reason for
coming to Ireland.

figure
Figure 3. If you've ever needed a reason to visit Ireland, then here it
is.

Paul Barry lectures at The Institute of Technology, Carlow in Ireland.
His first book, Programming the Network with Perl, was published by
Wiley in February 2002. His next book, Bioinformatics, Biocomputing and
Perl, a collaboration with Michael Moorhouse, is scheduled to be
published by Wiley toward the end of 2003.




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  79. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  80. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pattern Matching
  81. 2003-04-07 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Pattern Matching
  82. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  83. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  84. 2003-04-07 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  85. 2003-04-07 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  86. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  87. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD - U.S. military helps fund Calgary hacker
  88. 2003-04-07 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] OpenBSD - U.S. military helps fund Calgary hacker
  89. 2003-04-07 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenBSD - U.S. military helps fund Calgary hacker
  90. 2003-04-06 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Subject: [hangout] yahoo messenger
  91. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  92. 2003-04-06 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  93. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] IP Study Group
  94. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  95. 2003-04-06 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Metro Card Programming
  96. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [fairuse] More Economic of Copyright: Row Row Row Your boat
  97. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Economic of Copyright: Row Row Row Your boat
  98. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] More Greenspan on Copyright
  99. 2003-04-06 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Greenspan on Copyright
  100. 2003-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] I need a favor:
  101. 2003-04-05 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New NYLXS Classroom Space, and Full Time Internet Cafe?
  102. 2003-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [fairuse] Sueing Students:RIAA]
  103. 2003-04-05 phantom21-at-mindspring.com Subject: [hangout] Where to find Linux Format
  104. 2003-04-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Oh - This is wonderful- Mr Wynkoop is crawling the system again
  105. 2003-04-04 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] perl script
  106. 2003-04-04 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] for all you ogg folks
  107. 2003-04-04 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS education committee
  108. 2003-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  109. 2003-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Press
  110. 2003-04-03 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  111. 2003-04-03 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  112. 2003-04-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  113. 2003-04-03 akbar <akbar-at-pionerd.org> Re: [hangout] THE JOURNALS (fwd)
  114. 2003-04-02 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] [marco-at-nylxs.com: First meeting of the new government]
  115. 2003-04-02 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] [marco-at-nylxs.com: First meeting of the new governme nt]
  116. 2003-04-02 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] [marco-at-nylxs.com: First meeting of the new government]
  117. 2003-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] War is in question
  118. 2003-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Government Contracts
  119. 2003-04-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Google Ratings
  120. 2003-04-01 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Anyone in town now?
  121. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anyone in town now?
  122. 2003-04-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Graphics in the Consule
  123. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Graphics in the Consule
  124. 2003-04-01 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Macro steps down
  125. 2003-04-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] FYI
  126. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use Meeting recap from last night
  127. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Testimony
  128. 2003-04-01 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] General Member Meeting - R&M
  129. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Iraq and Anti-Semitism
  130. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] FYI
  131. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [niielpxbkv-tgfaidlhpt-at-eJlIBpa.com: Microsoft Security Update]
  132. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  133. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Happy Birthday
  134. 2003-04-01 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  135. 2003-04-01 rc <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Subject: [hangout] Happy Birthday
  136. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Enum Columns
  137. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79911,00.html
  138. 2003-04-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  139. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  140. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  141. 2003-04-01 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  142. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  143. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  144. 2003-04-01 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  145. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [draht-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: sendmail (SuSE-SA:2003:023)]
  146. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] installed new
  147. 2003-04-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows to release code
  148. 2003-04-01 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Windows to release code
  149. 2003-04-01 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] using linux in schools
  150. 2003-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS General Membership Meeting
  151. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] My Wrist hurts
  152. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] My Wrist hurts
  153. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Joe MAffia's Article
  154. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] My Wrist hurts
  155. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  156. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  157. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  158. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] First Pass on a new article for the Journal
  159. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  160. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Board Propsal: Web Portal?
  161. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] First Pass on a new article for the Journal
  162. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Resource for Education Initiatives
  163. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] request for services: web site/hosting
  164. 2003-04-30 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] request for services: web site/hosting
  165. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Demo possibility
  166. 2003-04-30 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Subject: [hangout] FTC Spam Forum
  167. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] School Board Proposal
  168. 2003-04-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Draft
  169. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Linux education
  170. 2003-04-30 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> RE: [hangout] Draft
  171. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [fairuse] May Second Washington DC [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  172. 2003-04-30 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Draft
  173. 2003-04-30 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Draft
  174. 2003-04-29 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Draft
  175. 2003-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Draft
  176. 2003-04-29 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Draft
  177. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] flyers
  178. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Test Email
  179. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Test Email
  180. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Test Email
  181. 2003-04-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Test Email
  182. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Washington Schedule
  183. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [fairuse] RE: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  184. 2003-04-29 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: help with journal
  185. 2003-04-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  186. 2003-04-29 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: [Fwd: Re: [wwwac] Tech swap meet / flea market in new york?]
  187. 2003-04-29 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] flyers
  188. 2003-04-28 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Joseph Maffia: Hooked on Linux
  189. 2003-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Flyers?
  190. 2003-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 19 Monitors
  191. 2003-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today]
  192. 2003-04-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Radio Show ?
  193. 2003-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Monitors?
  194. 2003-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show ?
  195. 2003-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Educating HS Students
  196. 2003-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show tonight?
  197. 2003-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Phone is up
  198. 2003-04-27 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  199. 2003-04-27 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  200. 2003-04-27 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Media Database
  201. 2003-04-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Phones are out
  202. 2003-04-26 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Media Database
  203. 2003-04-26 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] power cords
  204. 2003-04-25 NYLUG NYLUG <nylug-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [nylug-talk] [From NY Fair Use Mailing List] Linus on DRM
  205. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] FW: Library
  206. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  207. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  208. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Publicity
  209. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  210. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  211. 2003-04-25 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  212. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ask-at-develooper.com: Re: [jobs-discuss] Rejecting because of salary
  213. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Legal Advise: NY Fair Use
  214. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Institution: New 2 Week Daytime program
  215. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Hardware Recycle Initiative
  216. 2003-04-25 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY no call list.
  217. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYLXS: Radio Show this week
  218. 2003-04-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYLXS: Radio Show this week
  219. 2003-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  220. 2003-04-25 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  221. 2003-04-25 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  222. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS Journal
  223. 2003-04-25 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  224. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Weekly Installfests
  225. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Recycling Initiative
  226. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software business expo plans
  227. 2003-04-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYLXS: Radio Show this week
  228. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  229. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  230. 2003-04-24 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Anyone disposing 14 or 15" broken monitors, save pedestals cords 4 NYLXS
  231. 2003-04-24 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] 19" Monitors for Kings Games
  232. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  233. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Laywer - NY Fair Use
  234. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux Classes announced on NewsForge...ummm
  235. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Lost oppurtunities in our back yard
  236. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Lost oppurtunities in our back yard
  237. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  238. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  239. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  240. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  241. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Censorship of FS advocates in the marketplace
  242. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Next Victem
  243. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  244. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  245. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  246. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  247. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  248. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  249. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  250. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  251. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  252. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: Issues
  253. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  254. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  255. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Issues
  256. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  257. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linus arrested today
  258. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  259. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus on DRM
  260. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Linus on DRM
  261. 2003-04-24 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  262. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  263. 2003-04-24 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Linus on DRM
  264. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Grepping body of message [multimedia-fan-at-myrealbox.com]
  265. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board of Ed stuff
  266. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  267. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  268. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  269. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  270. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [ Free Software Chamber of Commerce ] Re: [hangout] Fwd: Reminder to eligible training providers regarding new website
  271. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  272. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  273. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Ruben's mailbomb tactics
  274. 2003-04-24 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  275. 2003-04-24 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  276. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  277. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Monitors for Kings Games
  278. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Fwd: Reminder to eligible training providers regarding new website
  279. 2003-04-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Reminder to eligible training providers regarding new website [Christine.Steenburgh-at-Labor.State.Ny.Us]
  280. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  281. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  282. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [html-at-ssc.com: SuitWatch - April 24]
  283. 2003-04-24 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  284. 2003-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [krahmer-at-suse.de: [suse-security-announce] SuSE Security Announcement: KDE (SuSE-SA:2003:026)]
  285. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  286. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  287. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  288. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  289. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  290. 2003-04-24 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] WindowsRefund.net - Toshiba update and request
  291. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  292. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  293. 2003-04-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: Flyers
  294. 2003-04-24 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  295. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  296. 2003-04-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Two HD
  297. 2003-04-23 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] suse 8.2
  298. 2003-04-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] suse 8.2
  299. 2003-04-23 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Two HD
  300. 2003-04-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  301. 2003-04-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  302. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  303. 2003-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  304. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] NYFU NYACSH BLEH
  305. 2003-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] April 28th Meeting for NY Fair Use: PLEASE ATTEND
  306. 2003-04-23 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] April 28th Meeting for NY Fair Use: PLEASE ATTEND
  307. 2003-04-23 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylxs-announce] April 28th Meeting for NY Fair Use: PLEASE ATTEND
  308. 2003-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Installation
  309. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] bank account
  310. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] space
  311. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight
  312. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Novell/Linux
  313. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Tonight
  314. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Have Fun
  315. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Tonight
  316. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Tonight
  317. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Monitors
  318. 2003-04-22 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Re: [hangout] Monitors
  319. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Monitors
  320. 2003-04-22 vin-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: [hangout] Monitors
  321. 2003-04-22 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  322. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Copyright Office Accepting Comments About SoundExchange
  323. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Library
  324. 2003-04-22 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Subject: [hangout] Copyright Office Accepting Comments About SoundExchange
  325. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Library
  326. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Library
  327. 2003-04-22 Jeremy Hogan <jhogan-at-redhat.com> Re: (fwd) Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  328. 2003-04-22 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  329. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] Library
  330. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: classes?
  331. 2003-04-22 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: (fwd) Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  332. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: DMCA Testimony [1201-at-loc.gov]
  333. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  334. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  335. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  336. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Open House
  337. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Open House
  338. 2003-04-22 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  339. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  340. 2003-04-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  341. 2003-04-22 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  342. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  343. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  344. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  345. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  346. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NY Fair Use
  347. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  348. 2003-04-22 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Open House
  349. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  350. 2003-04-22 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  351. 2003-04-22 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: [Marketing] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  352. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  353. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  354. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  355. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  356. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  357. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  358. 2003-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [jdave23-at-express56.com: [hangout] Article]
  359. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  360. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  361. 2003-04-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  362. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Open House
  363. 2003-04-22 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] Open House
  364. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Class Schedule
  365. 2003-04-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Class Schedule
  366. 2003-04-21 nylxsdoer <nylxsdoer-at-nyc.rr.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  367. 2003-04-21 From: "'Marco Scoffier'" <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  368. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  369. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Galeon Troubles GLIBC
  370. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Possible Contract (Significant)] (fwd)
  371. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] JOB: Recruiter - HOT Pharmaceutical Advertising Agency - NJ - 4 openings] (fwd)
  372. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [wwwac] Possible Contract (Significant)] (fwd)
  373. 2003-04-21 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  374. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  375. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: for Linux Journal
  376. 2003-04-21 Egan Orion <egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  377. 2003-04-21 Arron Rouse <arron.rouse-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  378. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  379. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  380. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  381. 2003-04-21 Egan Orion <egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  382. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  383. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Shared Secrets MS and Free Software
  384. 2003-04-21 Egan Orion <egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  385. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  386. 2003-04-21 From: "Mike Magee" <mike.magee-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] RE: Shared Secrets MS and Free Software
  387. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  388. 2003-04-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Shared Secrets MS and Free Software
  389. 2003-04-21 From: "Mike Magee" <mike.magee-at-theinquirer.net> Subject: [hangout] RE: You are spreading disinformation
  390. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  391. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Galeon Troubles GLIBC
  392. 2003-04-21 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  393. 2003-04-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  394. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] have boxes need monitors
  395. 2003-04-21 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Hardware Troubles
  396. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  397. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Hardware Troubles
  398. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Hardware Troubles
  399. 2003-04-21 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  400. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
  401. 2003-04-21 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] PR Meeting
  402. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  403. 2003-04-21 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Re: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  404. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Do we want to take advange of this? (fwd)
  405. 2003-04-21 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  406. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  407. 2003-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [jill-at-ssc.com: for Linux Journal]
  408. 2003-04-20 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Subject: [hangout] Re: linux class?
  409. 2003-04-19 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] where one the server is the journal?
  410. 2003-04-17 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] ms product activation causes millions of hours of lost productivity?
  411. 2003-04-17 vin <vin-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign
  412. 2003-04-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Re: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  413. 2003-04-17 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  414. 2003-04-17 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  415. 2003-04-17 Phil Gengler <phil-at-codeallday.com> Subject: [hangout] May DMCA Hearing Schedules
  416. 2003-04-16 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  417. 2003-04-16 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  418. 2003-04-16 jam-at-rm-cpa.com Re: [hangout] Libarary Meeting
  419. 2003-04-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Libarary Meeting
  420. 2003-04-15 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  421. 2003-04-15 Marco Scoffier <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] PR Meeting
  422. 2003-04-15 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] PR Meeting
  423. 2003-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] copyright website (fwd)
  424. 2003-04-14 Mike Richardson - Jounal Committee NYLXS <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] copyright website (fwd)
  425. 2003-04-14 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl Classes Canceled this week
  426. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Software Education Initiative Committee Report
  427. 2003-04-13 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] eprom burning
  428. 2003-04-13 Adam Kosmin <akosmin-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] eprom burning
  429. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] eprom burning
  430. 2003-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Educational meeting today
  431. 2003-04-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Re: [hangout] Educational meeting today
  432. 2003-04-13 Selso DaSilva <selsok-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [hangout] Educational meeting today
  433. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Glipse of the Future of Music
  434. 2003-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Juicey Target for NYACSH
  435. 2003-04-13 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [nylxs-announce] Linux Scene Calender for Today [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com]
  436. 2003-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Free Equiptment on NYLUG
  437. 2003-04-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  438. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] From The Linux Journal - Linux is ready for Enteprise Desktops
  439. 2003-04-11 From: "Adam Kosmin" <adk9001-at-nyp.org> Subject: [hangout] (fwd) HB 2892 (Oregon)
  440. 2003-04-11 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Article
  441. 2003-04-11 Dave Williams <jdave23-at-express56.com> Re: [hangout] Article
  442. 2003-04-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Shock and Awe - Trademark by Sony
  443. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [linux-elitists] AOL says goodbye to AT&T/Comcast and residential mail spools
  444. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [linux-elitists] AOL says goodbye to AT&T/Comcast and residential mail spools [ajs-at-ajs.com]
  445. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Best of CrackMonkey
  446. 2003-04-12 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CrackMonkey Specials
  447. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam?
  448. 2003-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [!CrackMonkey!] Why isn't this spam?

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