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| DATE | 2003-04-21 |
| FROM | Egan Orion
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| SUBJECT | Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation
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From owner-hangout-desteny-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Apr 21 17:22:19 2003 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3LLMJir007548 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:22:19 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h3LLMJ2Q007547 for hangout-desteny; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:22:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3LLMJir007541 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:22:19 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h3LLMJ1l007540 for hangout-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:22:19 -0400 Received: from vm1.theinquirer.net ([213.219.40.34]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.3/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id h3LLJJir007401 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:19:19 -0400 Received: from [69.3.239.116] by vm1.viaarena.com (NTMail 6.04.0010/KW0275.00.31c078c5) with ESMTP id jaddgaaa for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Mon, 21 Apr 2003 22:27:07 +0100 Subject: [hangout] Re: You are spreading disinformation From: Egan Orion To: Adam Kosmin Cc: mike.magee-at-theinquirer.net, arron.rouse-at-theinquirer.net, hangout-at-nylxs.com In-Reply-To: <20030421210345.GT7742-at-koz.nyp.org> References: <1050956623.2642.31.camel-at-munro> <20030421202224.GR7742-at-koz.nyp.org> <1050959553.2649.60.camel-at-munro> <20030421210345.GT7742-at-koz.nyp.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1050960107.2649.65.camel-at-munro> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.3 Date: 21 Apr 2003 14:21:47 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AuthenticatedSender: egan.orion-at-theinquirer.net Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Egan Orion List: New Yorkers Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribename-at-domian.com to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Evolution: 000000fe-0000 X-Keywords: X-UID: 12166 Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 4840 Lines: 126
I didn't write the article, Adam. You're getting worked up over nothing. This conversation is closed.
Egan
On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 14:03, Adam Kosmin wrote: > Egan, > Spare me the flames. I've sent my list of complaints over to > Mike and expect him to forward them to your attention. Please > let me know when I can expect to see the corrections. > > Thanks, > Adam Kosmin > > > " Adam, let me try to explain this to you. I will use small words (mostly) > " so you can maybe understand, as your reading skills plainly aren't good. > " > " When one places a term in quote marks ("), that _changes_ the meaning of > " its use by the writer from serious to mocking. Such usage has the effect > " of denying the commonly held meaning or the intent meant by another use. > " > " In other words, placing quotes around "Open Source" in the article title > " turns it into a pejorative term (you might want to look up 'pejorative') > " and it changes that title where Microsoft and "Open Source" appear into > " a wry oxymoron. (You might need to look up 'wry' and 'oxymoron', also.) > " > " I value my intelligent readers, but not "intelligent" readers like you. > " Get it? So get off it. Go off now and harass some real Microsoft shills. > " > " All the best, > " Egan > " > " > " On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 13:22, Adam Kosmin wrote: > " > Egan, > " > Are you (and your staff) blind?!?! How do you expect me to > " > believe that you have not caved in to Microsoft's marketing > " > agenda when I see you publish an article entitled: > " > > " > Microsoft speeds up "Open Source" campaign > " > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8992 > " > > " > There is nothing Open about this campaign and I am accusing your > " > publication of spreading disinformation. Please correct this > " > immediately and take responsibility. > " > > " > Thank you, > " > Adam Kosmin > " > > " > > " > " Adam, > " > " > " > " Mike's right: he and the INQUIRER staff "get it" regarding Open Source > " > " and Microsoft's cynical Shared Source campaign to co-opt IT mindshares. > " > " The INQ's term "Vole" for Microsoft is surely not a fawning compliment. > " > " > " > " Further, I suggest to you that such mistakenly outraged letters sent to > " > " neutral or sympathetic publications and journalists are not appropriate > " > " or helpful to Open Source. Instead, they give FOSS advocacy a bad name. > " > " > " > " Regards, > " > " Egan > " > " > " > " > " > " On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 06:56, Mike Magee wrote: > " > " > No I'm not Adam. > " > " > > " > " > It's perfectly clear from the tone of that piece, and the fact that it's > " > " > quoting another news wire, that we don't swallow that, and the quotation > " > " > marks emphasise that. > " > " > > " > " > We also have made it perfectly clear on countless occasions on our web site > " > " > that we understand the clear distinction. > " > " > > " > " > Also, for that matter, we have run numerous articles by Egan Orion which > " > " > have a very pro-Open Source stance. So I think you're getting very steamed > " > " > up about something you don't need to. > " > " > > " > " > > " > " > > " > " > > " > " > > " > " > Mike Magee > " > " > > " > " > -----Original Message----- > " > " > From: Adam Kosmin [mailto:adk9001-at-nyp.org] > " > " > Sent: 21 April 2003 14:37 > " > " > To: mike.magee-at-theinquirer.net > " > " > Cc: akosmin-at-nyp.org > " > " > Subject: You are spreading disinformation > " > " > > " > " > > " > " > Mike > " > " > I am writing in response to your article entitled "Microsoft speeds up > " > " > "Open Source" campaign" (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8992). It is > " > " > clear to me after reading the article, that you have no understanding of > " > " > what Open Source / Free Software really is but instead, are being > " > " > manipulated by Microsoft's well-planned strategy to confuse the line between > " > " > Shared Source and FOSS. There is nothing "Open" about Microsoft's > " > " > look-but-don't-touch Shared Source agreement that forces it's subscribers to > " > " > pay membership fees and sign non-disclosure agreements. As someone who > " > " > should be reporting the facts, I personally hold you responsible for > " > " > spreading disinformation to your readers and I would appreciate knowing when > " > " > you will take responsibility and publish a correction/apology. > " > " > > " > " > Sincerely, > " > " > Adam Kosmin > " > " > > " > " > -- > " > " > "Silly hacker, root is for administrators" > " > " > - Unknown > " > " > > " > " > GnuPG Key : 11C2 79F6 BD3D 3A86 5640 3DA0 3860 B30E 711D 3B66 > " > " > > " > " > > " > " > "
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