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DATE	2009-07-08
FROM	Robert Menes
SUBJECT	Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google operating system
From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Jul 8 10:00:04 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n68E01f6015896 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:00:03 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n68E01Gx015895 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:00:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n68DxwRI015892 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:00:01 -0400 Received: by vwj10 with SMTP id 10so5894452vwj.11 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:59:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1wN3RQf/tYw8HCdjmOrfyUDYUIWHIu7S/zue6xWTito=; b=KTn8nHtMr5gpQSi98YFFehx1hwMX9LBN74fzTSOSg9JLOSOGagbrqSTBzHh++tjQdo lM25STsdG9VyblBNPkJDsa7RFgD5Ill0HFyEdILLVHdjxUVnOk9vBzVbL3gDS5h+zMiG f/53rK10+4LB1aRfYksHBbUIo4lD8HgHFgXNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S3DKDbePTMcfQB8SgmMPPzFJomvwzbr7KJ8I2dl+mL/LHVjCi+3AUtiDEuruJZTa4p cMY1UHiHBRr0g2zmNb7c1PdE4Rd+1sVFFaBiZXwGKI5HwEYvSQglaHSYRcTIHUPlhOGg a+n2M7/EKr4rGIZp3Pa9IKFps7nFOEOGWOSvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.77.75 with SMTP id f11mr14151036vck.66.1247061595231; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:59:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A54A2CC.4090309-at-gmail.com> References: <4A548879.2050806-at-gmail.com> <4A5491F1.1060403-at-vnetworx.net> <4A54995D.5090805-at-gmail.com> <4A549CFE.1080509-at-vnetworx.net> <4A54A2CC.4090309-at-gmail.com> From: Robert Menes Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:59:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google operating system To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > > Well Apple is treading on questionable ground with OSX. > when I worked with mac's I noticed an "Apple Developers License" tacked on > to the install package for gcc. > also OSX has an interesting history. It all started with something they > called MKLinux http://www.mklinux.org/ which Apple sponsored and that was > latter forked into OpenDarwin where the swapped out a lot of the GNU > licensed software for BSD licensed software but not all of it. In truth > MKLinux was not really Linux at all because it used the Mach kernel its > actually more closely related to GNU/HURD and in reality it was a GNU/Mach > distro. > > While I know about the ADL, isn't the truth that OS X stemmed out of NEXTSTEP? Yes, Apple had MkLinux and was supporting it (they and the OSF Research Institute work on it together), the only thing that came from MkLinux into OS X was the Mach 3.0 kernel, as it was ported to PowerPC and allowed Apple to have a basis on which to form OS X. But the reality is that a vast majority of the technology in OS X (including developer tools and the like) came out of NEXTSTEP. According to the history section of the Darwin article on Wikipedia: "Darwin's heritage began with NeXT's NEXTSTEP operating system (later known as OPENSTEP), first released in 1989. After Apple bought NeXT in 1997, it announced it would base its next operating system on OPENSTEP. This was developed into Rhapsody in 1997 and the Rhapsody-based Mac OS X Server 1.0 in 1999. In 2000, Rhapsody was forked into Darwin and released as open-source software under the Apple Public Source License (APSL), and components from Darwin are present in Mac OS X today." And more about the history of OS X from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS_X --Rob -- Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route. ============================== Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ============================== -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1.2 GCS/S/M/MU d- s+: a30 C++(+++) UL++++>$ P++ L+++ E+ W+ N+ o+ K++ w--- O- M !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP(+) t+ 5++ X++ R tv b+++ DI+++ D++(---) G++ e+ h- r++ y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------