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DATE | 2009-07-08 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google operating system
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Jul 8 11:01:26 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n68F1N4C016772 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:25 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n68F1NHM016771 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n68F1Kt6016768 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:22 -0400 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [166.84.1.3]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED2B38E51 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by panix3.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20529) id 5FDE28FDE3; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:19 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google operating system Message-ID: <20090708150119.GD23155-at-panix.com> References: <4A548879.2050806-at-gmail.com> <4A5491F1.1060403-at-vnetworx.net> <4A54995D.5090805-at-gmail.com> <4A549CFE.1080509-at-vnetworx.net> <4A54A2CC.4090309-at-gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:59:35AM -0400, Robert Menes wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote: > > > > Well Apple is treading on questionable ground with OSX. > > when I worked with mac's I noticed an "Apple Developers License" tacked on > > to the install package for gcc. > > also OSX has an interesting history. It all started with something they > > called MKLinux http://www.mklinux.org/ which Apple sponsored and that was > > latter forked into OpenDarwin where the swapped out a lot of the GNU > > licensed software for BSD licensed software but not all of it. In truth > > MKLinux was not really Linux at all because it used the Mach kernel its > > actually more closely related to GNU/HURD and in reality it was a GNU/Mach > > distro. > > > > > > While I know about the ADL, isn't the truth that OS X stemmed out of NEXTSTEP? >
Darwin is a BSD deritive and Aqua is somewhat a NEXTSTEP derivitive although truthful wmaker is MUCH better.
> Yes, Apple had MkLinux and was supporting it (they and the OSF > Research Institute > work on it together), the only thing that came from MkLinux into OS X > was the Mach 3.0 > kernel, as it was ported to PowerPC and allowed Apple to have a basis > on which to form > OS X. But the reality is that a vast majority of the technology in OS > X (including developer > tools and the like) came out of NEXTSTEP. >
THere is a free toolkit for WMAKER/Afterstep called Wings and I don't know if it will build applications for Aqua.
> According to the history section of the Darwin article on Wikipedia: > > "Darwin's heritage began with NeXT's NEXTSTEP operating system (later > known as OPENSTEP), first released in 1989. After Apple bought NeXT in > 1997, it announced it would base its next operating system on > OPENSTEP. This was developed into Rhapsody in 1997 and the > Rhapsody-based Mac OS X Server 1.0 in 1999. In 2000, Rhapsody was > forked into Darwin and released as open-source software under the > Apple Public Source License (APSL), and components from Darwin are > present in Mac OS X today." > > And more about the history of OS X from Wikipedia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mac_OS_X >
Branching off of X11 is the key trouble of these interfaces.
Ruben > --Rob > -- > Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route. > ============================== > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > ============================== > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.1.2 > GCS/S/M/MU d- s+: a30 C++(+++) UL++++>$ P++ L+++ E+ W+ N+ o+ K++ w--- O- > M !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP(+) t+ 5++ X++ R tv b+++ DI+++ D++(---) G++ e+ h- > r++ y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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