|FROM ||Ruben Safir
|SUBJECT ||Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google operating system
|From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed Jul 8 11:01:26 2009
Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n68F1N4C016772
for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:25 -0400
Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost)
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n68F1NHM016771
for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:23 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f
Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [188.8.131.52])
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n68F1Kt6016768
for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:22 -0400
Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [184.108.40.206])
by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED2B38E51
for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:19 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by panix3.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20529)
id 5FDE28FDE3; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:19 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:01:19 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Google operating system
References: <4A548879.2050806-at-gmail.com> <4A5491F1.1060403-at-vnetworx.net> <4A54995D.5090805-at-gmail.com> <4A549CFE.1080509-at-vnetworx.net> <4A54A2CC.4090309-at-gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:59:35AM -0400, Robert Menes wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > Well Apple is treading on questionable ground with OSX.
> > when I worked with mac's I noticed an "Apple Developers License" tacked on
> > to the install package for gcc.
> > also OSX has an interesting history. It all started with something they
> > called MKLinux http://www.mklinux.org/ which Apple sponsored and that was
> > latter forked into OpenDarwin where the swapped out a lot of the GNU
> > licensed software for BSD licensed software but not all of it. In truth
> > MKLinux was not really Linux at all because it used the Mach kernel its
> > actually more closely related to GNU/HURD and in reality it was a GNU/Mach
> > distro.
> While I know about the ADL, isn't the truth that OS X stemmed out of NEXTSTEP?
Darwin is a BSD deritive and Aqua is somewhat a NEXTSTEP derivitive although
truthful wmaker is MUCH better.
> Yes, Apple had MkLinux and was supporting it (they and the OSF
> Research Institute
> work on it together), the only thing that came from MkLinux into OS X
> was the Mach 3.0
> kernel, as it was ported to PowerPC and allowed Apple to have a basis
> on which to form
> OS X. But the reality is that a vast majority of the technology in OS
> X (including developer
> tools and the like) came out of NEXTSTEP.
THere is a free toolkit for WMAKER/Afterstep called Wings and I don't know if
it will build applications for Aqua.
> According to the history section of the Darwin article on Wikipedia:
> "Darwin's heritage began with NeXT's NEXTSTEP operating system (later
> known as OPENSTEP), first released in 1989. After Apple bought NeXT in
> 1997, it announced it would base its next operating system on
> OPENSTEP. This was developed into Rhapsody in 1997 and the
> Rhapsody-based Mac OS X Server 1.0 in 1999. In 2000, Rhapsody was
> forked into Darwin and released as open-source software under the
> Apple Public Source License (APSL), and components from Darwin are
> present in Mac OS X today."
> And more about the history of OS X from Wikipedia:
Branching off of X11 is the key trouble of these interfaces.
> Nobody's ever lost in life...they're merely taking the scenic route.
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> Version: 3.1.2
> GCS/S/M/MU d- s+: a30 C++(+++) UL++++>$ P++ L+++ E+ W+ N+ o+ K++ w--- O-
> M !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP(+) t+ 5++ X++ R tv b+++ DI+++ D++(---) G++ e+ h-
> r++ y+
> ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------