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DATE | 2009-07-28 |
FROM | Joshua Zeidner
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
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From lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Jul 28 17:14:55 2009 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6SLErBi028303 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:14:55 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n6SLEqfj028302 for hangout-outgoings; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:14:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lestw-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from mail-qy0-f176.google.com (mail-qy0-f176.google.com [209.85.221.176]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n6SLEoAa028298 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:14:52 -0400 Received: by qyk6 with SMTP id 6so575391qyk.11 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:14:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nofVNARdrvmy1awKEanXsl9LLVAmbLL0Mpy2w0gJYvY=; b=KGTWzBlm2TF+0uS3Z24mOeOESyOblKKAvM1v+d1qPvJLvktSWc/6o63rHC4IETeEY3 Nrc3PPmrumyswxCsPio/R9q/1WkvGQLDE/DF+Rd1e7I6jhmaYMF7KZDmJ13gOtmHsJM1 0wRfiCgA5Pu06WagcZtWWopvSKR8+eGHxr4VY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H8IVMl/RlqMYczDULMFuLZDIrAr/wwLoCW0aihzlEsfQTBIVbXGywUMhkee0VnbPqV Ka/aO8wy77lT1BpE4jxa3pJ8jutvhSBjNXdV6MZTCB6ib66uJBQDlMibn3IdgZsMMwwt dhJs+74VI2jzOpTrggq1xbWhNtwnCuGYVuSio= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.75.208 with SMTP id z16mr5406427vcj.1.1248815687283; Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:14:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A6F6811.6070003-at-vnetworx.net> References: <9e8718c60907271822k6efbd86bh3f40acb6b5511c2f-at-mail.gmail.com> <4A6E885A.5080001-at-vnetworx.net> <9e8718c60907281233r5eb1428exa3a99f7c079a5884-at-mail.gmail.com> <4A6F6811.6070003-at-vnetworx.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:14:47 -0700 Message-ID: <9e8718c60907281414v38802ff3s5b13aa63d21ed382-at-mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source advocacy From: Joshua Zeidner To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by www2.mrbrklyn.com id n6SLEoAa028298 Sender: lestw-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Ron Guerin wrote: > Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Ron Guerin wrote: >> >>> Joshua Zeidner wrote: >>> >>>> anyone hear this latest anti-OSS management mantra? >>>> >>>> "Open Source: free as in kittens." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> No, but that's rather disingenuous. Nobody has unwanted Open Source >>> show up on their doorstep needing to be fixed, fed, and given a full >>> round of shots, which is clearly the metaphor they're reaching for there. >>> >> >> Hi Ron, >> >> Yes its typically used to address the fact that Open Source can >> sometimes be more expensive to maintain than its proprietary >> counterpart. -jmz >> >> > I just find it "dishonest". Yes, it can be. And tomorrow it can rain. > Open Source is not in and of itself a seal of quality. In fact much of > it is just as horrible as proprietary software tends to be. I can't > think of the correct term for it, but having this kind of discussion > with someone advancing this notion seems to be an automatic lose because > you're then implicitly accepting the false premise upon which it is based. > > - Ron >
I do agree that in the long term OSS = cost savings + better ability to compete. Just thought I would expose this meme so that it can be diffused as quickly as possible.
-jmz
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