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DATE 2009-07-24
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July 24, 2009
44 Charged by U.S. in New Jersey Corruption Sweep
By DAVID M. HALBFINGER

A two-year corruption and international money-laundering investigation
stretching from the Jersey Shore to Brooklyn to Israel and Switzerland
culminated in charges against 44 people on Thursday, including three New
Jersey mayors, two state assemblymen and five rabbis, the authorities
said.

The case began with bank fraud charges against a member of an insular
Syrian Jewish enclave centered in a seaside town. But when that man
became a federal informant and posed as a crooked real estate developer
offering cash bribes to obtain government approvals, it mushroomed into
a political scandal that could rival any of the most explosive and
sleazy episodes in New Jersey.s recent past.

It was replete with tales of the illegal sales of body parts; of furtive
negotiations in diners, parking lots and boiler rooms; of nervous jokes
about .patting down. a man who turned out to indeed be an informant;
and, again and again, of the passing of cash . once in a box of Apple
Jacks cereal stuffed with $97,000.

.For these defendants, corruption was a way of life,. Ralph J. Marra
Jr., the acting United States attorney in New Jersey, said at a news
conference. .They existed in an ethics-free zone..

Mr. Marra said that average citizens .don.t have a chance. against the
culture of influence peddling the investigation had unearthed.

Even veteran political observers were taken aback by the scope of the
investigation. The mayors of Hoboken, Secaucus and Ridgefield were among
those arrested.

.This is so massive,. said Joseph Marbach, a political scientist at
Seton Hall University. .It.s going to just reinforce the stereotype of
New Jersey politics and corruption..

The arrests had immediate reverberations in the governor.s race, and a
member of Gov. Jon S. Corzine.s administration was forced to resign
after federal agents raided his home.

The authorities laid out two separate schemes, one involving money
laundering that led to rabbis and members of the Syrian Jewish community
in Brooklyn and in the Jersey Shore town of Deal, where many of them
have summer homes. The other dealt with political corruption and bribery
and involved public officials mostly in Jersey City and Hoboken, where
the pace of development has been particularly intense in recent years.

Linking the two schemes was the federal informant who was not named in
court papers but whom people involved with the investigation identified
as Solomon Dwek, a failed real estate developer and philanthropist who
was arrested in May 2006 on charges of passing a bad $25 million check
at a bank in Monmouth County, N.J.

Early on, Mr. Dwek helped investigators penetrate an extensive network
of money laundering that involved rabbis in the Flatbush section of
Brooklyn, where the Syrian Jewish community is based, and in Deal and
Elberon, towns on the Jersey Shore.

Mr. Dwek, a well-known member of the Syrian Jewish community whose
parents founded the Deal Yeshiva, never concealed that he was facing
bank fraud charges, instead telling targets, who included three rabbis
in Brooklyn and two in New Jersey, that he was bankrupt and trying to
conceal his assets, according to people involved in the case. The
targets, in turn, accepted bank checks Mr. Dwek made out to charities
that they oversaw, deducted a fee, and returned the rest to him in cash.

Much of the cash they provided him came from Israel, and some of that in
turn came from a Swiss banker, prosecutors said. All told, some $3
million was laundered for Mr. Dwek since June 2007, prosecutors said.

The case shifted to focus on public corruption, prosecutors say, after
one of the men accused of money laundering, Moshe Altman of Monsey,
N.Y., a Hudson County developer, introduced Mr. Zwek to a politically
connected building inspector in Jersey City, who then steered him to
another city official, Maher Khalil.

Mr. Khalil, who is accused of accepting $30,000 in bribes from Mr. Dwek,
made a series of referrals to what he called .players,. helping Mr. Dwek
to branch out to a web of public officials, mayoral and council
candidates, and their confidants.

Mr. Dwek . now operating under an assumed identity, according to people
involved in the case . honed an approach: introduced to a local
influence-peddler, he would say he was looking to build high-rises or
other projects in their city or county.

He would offer $5,000 in cash for an upcoming campaign, or as a
straight-up bribe, with the promise of more to come, and with earnest
pleas that his official requests be .taken care of.. And he would pull
the money out of the trunk of his car.

He also came up with a lingo: corrupt payments were .invitations,.
approvals for development projects were .opportunities.. The communities
where his pitch appears to have worked included Jersey City, Hoboken,
Bayonne, Ridgefield and parts of Ocean County.

Among the public officials arrested were Mayor Peter J. Cammarano III of
Hoboken, who was a City Council member before he took office as mayor on
July 1, and Mayor Dennis Elwell of Secaucus, both Democrats; Assemblyman
L. Harvey Smith of Jersey City, also a Democrat; and Assemblyman Daniel
M. Van Pelt, a Republican from Ocean County.

Like some of the others arrested, Mr. Smith, a former teacher, ran for
office on an anticorruption platform, telling The New York Times: .I
don.t take cash. I don.t let people give me things.. He is charged with
taking $15,000 in bribes.

Mr. Van Pelt, who sits on an assembly committee that oversees the
Department of Environmental Protection, was accused of accepting money
to help the informant obtain environmental permits. In a meeting in
Atlantic City in February, prosecutors charged, Mr. Van Pelt assured Mr.
Dwek that the environmental agency .worked for. him, then took $10,000
in cash and told the informant to call him .any time..

The bulk of the corruption charges arose in Hudson County. The president
of the City Council in Jersey City, Mariano Vega Jr., and the city.s
deputy mayor, Leona Beldini, were also arrested. Mr. Vega took three
$10,000 payments before and after the municipal elections in May,
prosecutors said. Anthony R. Suarez, the mayor of Ridgefield, in Bergen
County, was charged with accepting $10,000 in bribes.

The court papers suggest the ease, and the relatively modest payments,
with which local officials seemed willing to be part of the scheme.

In Hoboken, prosecutors charge in their complaint, Mr. Cammarano, then a
councilman running for mayor, eagerly agreed in a meeting at the Malibu
Diner this year to help Mr. Dwek with his projects in exchange for cash.
Prosecutors said that when Mr. Dwek asked for assurances that his
requests would be expedited by the Hoboken City Council, Mr. Cammarano
replied, .I promise you,. adding, .You.re going to be, you.re going to
be treated like a friend..

Mr. Dwek responded that he would give a middleman $5,000 in cash for Mr.
Cammarano and another $5,000 after his election as mayor.

.O.K.,. Mr. Cammarano replied, according to the complaint. .Beautiful..

And Mr. Cammarano expressed confidence that he would be elected no
matter what, according to the complaint. .Right now, the Italians, the
Hispanics, the seniors are locked down,. he is quoted as saying.
.Nothing can change that now..

.I could be, uh, indicted,. he continued, .and I.m still going to win 85
to 95 percent of those populations..

It is not clear from the federal documents whether Mr. Dwek indeed owned
any properties or whether any of the developments he proposed were ever
built.

In the money laundering scheme, the rabbis arrested included Saul J.
Kassin, 87, a leader of the Syrian Jewish community in Brooklyn and New
Jersey; Mordchai Fish and Lavel Schwartz, both rabbis in Brooklyn; and
Eliahu Ben Haim and Edmund Nahum, who lead congregations in Deal.

Rabbi Nahum, prosecutors said, told Mr. Dwek that he should spread his
money through a number of rabbis. .The more it.s spread the better,.
Rabbi Nahum said, according to the complaint.

Another man in Brooklyn, Levy-Izhak Rosenbaum, was accused of enticing
vulnerable people to give up a kidney for $10,000 and then selling the
organ for $160,000. Mr. Dwek pretended to be soliciting a kidney on
behalf of someone and Mr. Rosenbaum said that he had been in business of
buying organs for years, according to the complaint.

Weysan Dun, the special agent in charge of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.s Newark office, emphasized that the case was motivated by
neither religion nor politics. That is an important point since New
Jersey governor.s race pits a former United States attorney, Christopher
J. Christie, a Republican, under whom the investigation began, against
the Democratic incumbent, Mr. Corzine, whose administration was caught
up in the arrests Thursday.

Agents raided the home of Joseph V. Doria Jr., commissioner of the
state.s Department of Community Affairs. Mr. Doria, who is also the
former mayor of Bayonne, resigned hours later at Governor Corzine.s
request, officials said.

.Any corruption is unacceptable . anywhere, anytime, by anybody,. the
governor said in a statement. .The scale of corruption we.re seeing as
this unfolds is simply outrageous and cannot be tolerated.. He also
called for the resignations of Mr. Smith and Mr. Van Pelt.

Mr. Christie called it a .really tragic day,. and said that he had
worked .extraordinarily hard. to combat corruption in his seven years as
a prosecutor, but that, .unfortunately, today is another example that
there is much work still to be done..

Outside Hoboken.s City Hall on Thursday, where a sign still had Mr.
Cammarano.s predecessor.s name on it, residents chatted about the news.
Some said they had come to expect as much from their politicians.

Others retained the capacity for shock. Carlos Ochoa, 63, a city street
sweeper, said he had volunteered for the new mayor.s campaign. .I.m very
disappointed,. he said. .I had a lot of expectations of him..

Reporting was contributed by Kitty Bennett, David W. Chen, Kareem Fahim,
William K. Rashbaum, Nate Schweber and Karen Zraick.


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  66. 2009-07-21 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS
  67. 2009-07-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Agenda -
  68. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Agenda -
  69. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS
  70. 2009-07-22 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Worthless Dads
  71. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Agenda -
  72. 2009-07-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  73. 2009-07-22 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  74. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  75. 2009-07-22 Simon Fondrie-Teitler <simonft-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS
  76. 2009-07-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  77. 2009-07-22 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  78. 2009-07-22 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Agenda -
  79. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  80. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (Ruben) sender change
  81. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Agenda -
  82. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Worthless Dads
  83. 2009-07-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Blue Ray DRM
  84. 2009-07-22 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS
  85. 2009-07-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MEETING TONIGHT
  86. 2009-07-23 mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MEETING TONIGHT
  87. 2009-07-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MEETING TONIGHT
  88. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Upcoming Scheduling and Projects
  89. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  90. 2009-07-24 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  91. 2009-07-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  92. 2009-07-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  93. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad Week For Jews
  94. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  95. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  96. 2009-07-24 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  97. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  98. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  99. 2009-07-24 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  100. 2009-07-24 From: "Beau Gould \(OSS\)" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  101. 2009-07-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  102. 2009-07-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Building a Better Mouse Trap
  103. 2009-07-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Upcoming Scheduling and Projects
  104. 2009-07-26 Simon Fondrie-Teitler <simonft-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Building a Better Mouse Trap
  105. 2009-07-26 Simon Fondrie-Teitler <simonft-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  106. 2009-07-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Building a Better Mouse Trap
  107. 2009-07-26 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS to purchase Google for 3.5 Billion
  108. 2009-07-26 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Building a Better Mouse Trap
  109. 2009-07-26 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] closest I have found to an ESR Linux conference article
  110. 2009-07-26 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source advocacy
  111. 2009-07-26 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] best comments on the Gates (Harvard) affair I've seen
  112. 2009-07-26 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  113. 2009-07-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open
  114. 2009-07-27 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  115. 2009-07-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  116. 2009-07-27 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  117. 2009-07-27 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  118. 2009-07-27 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  119. 2009-07-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  120. 2009-07-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  121. 2009-07-27 Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  122. 2009-07-27 Simon Fondrie-Teitler <simonft-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  123. 2009-07-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  124. 2009-07-28 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  125. 2009-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Family Free Software Videos
  126. 2009-07-28 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Family Free Software Videos
  127. 2009-07-28 Simon Fondrie-Teitler <simonft-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Family Free Software Videos
  128. 2009-07-28 Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  129. 2009-07-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  130. 2009-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open
  131. 2009-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest in Downtown Brooklyn?
  132. 2009-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Some Jewish Spiritual information for those of us of that faith
  133. 2009-07-28 Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Eric Raymond's tips for effective open source
  134. 2009-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  135. 2009-07-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  136. 2009-07-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  137. 2009-07-28 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  138. 2009-07-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  139. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  140. 2009-07-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  141. 2009-07-29 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Some Jewish Spiritual information for those
  142. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  143. 2009-07-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  144. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  145. 2009-07-29 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  146. 2009-07-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  147. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  148. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  149. 2009-07-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  150. 2009-07-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  151. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freedom-IT planning Start
  152. 2009-07-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  153. 2009-07-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  154. 2009-07-30 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  155. 2009-07-30 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  156. 2009-07-30 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  157. 2009-07-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Inservice
  158. 2009-07-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services
  159. 2009-07-31 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Moving ISP Services

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